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Harry H was correct. Harry M is THE weakest there, no wins, nil, nada. LdAl doesn't like a perennial loser so his chances of getting the tin tack increase every time his team loses.
To say he's been unlucky every week, when he's lost as a PM with his own strategy is daft. |
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This years main apprentice winner didnt win a task till about week 7 or 8 I think.
Nick was on hand to inform Sugar of Harry's good stuff nd made sure Zara didnt credit for it. Harry M isnt the weakest. I'd rather work with Harry M over Heya, over James, over Lizzie and over Zara. The only one stronger than Harry M is Harry H. |
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Another week of that white dress, great.
![]() ![]() Whoever told her that dress was ideal for the board room should be shot. She should have stuck with a black jacket, trousers/skirt and just changed t.shirts under for colour changes each week, if she didn't have much money to spend. |
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..... I commend Lizzie on not playing the Harry has lost every week card. Hayley tried playing it and she's fired! Harry hasn't lost every task, Harry's TEAM has lost every task - I think the kid has been very unlucky not to be on a winning team, sometimes by a matter of pounds. .......
Even last night they were all belittling him - refusing to let him be PM, Lizzie saying he was a bad luck mascot, and insinuating in the boardroom that he needed to have an eye kept on him, and then Hayley pointing out that he hadn't won a task yet...... Thank goodness Nick was able to set the record straight on his input, and Lizzie was sharp enough to pick up on LS and Nick's hints and not take him back into the Boardroom. |
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Did anyone see how awkwardly Zara was sitting on the chairs before going into the boardroom? I thought she was going to let out a fart or something. Quote:
This years main apprentice winner didnt win a task till about week 7 or 8 I think.
Nick was on hand to inform Sugar of Harry's good stuff nd made sure Zara didnt credit for it. Harry M isnt the weakest. I'd rather work with Harry M over Heya, over James, over Lizzie and over Zara. The only one stronger than Harry M is Harry H. |
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What I meant to add, was that Market prices for clothing should be less than they are in shops. For Example, If I were to get a suit in a Market, I'd check it out carefully first to see if it was worth that £50 tag. Even in shops I check over garments to see if they were finished off properly. Hope you do the same before you hand over your hard earned money.
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In total agreement with you there Rhydler.... I think on several occasions tHarry M's teams have lost because they are so determined to the the opposite of what he suggests, when he is quite often making sensible suggestons!
Even last night they were all belittling him - refusing to let him be PM, Lizzie saying he was a bad luck mascot, and insinuating in the boardroom that he needed to have an eye kept on him, and then Hayley pointing out that he hadn't won a task yet...... Thank goodness Nick was able to set the record straight on his input, and Lizzie was sharp enough to pick up on LS and Nick's hints and not take him back into the Boardroom. |
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God I forgot about that 'keep an eye on him' comment by Lizzy, how patronizing is that coming from a girl who sent a frankly embarrasing set of flowers to a ruby wedding function.
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Winning as PM certainly doesn't mean that you won the team the task. They were damn lucky to win that one
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Did anyone see how awkwardly Zara was sitting on the chairs before going into the boardroom?
I thought she was going to let out a fart or something. And even Harry H looked rather vulnerable and like a spare part this week. He was lucky that his team won as the other two were primed and ready for the boardroom. Especially James - 'I think he put himself forward for PM for the sake of putting himself forward'. lol getting the first punch in.
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Lizzie is my favourite contestant and I'm so glad she didn't get fired, but in all honesty she probably deserved to be, if only for her weak leadership. She said in the boardroom that Harry M insisted on going to Jermyn Street and Savile Row (I don't know London at all and even I know you wouldn't go there for a bargain!) and that she wanted to go to a market but Harry M wouldn't have it. She was the PM, not Harry M! She shouldn't have allowed him to overrule her when she knew he was wrong. Similarly, if Lizzie didn't want Zara and Hailey to go to Croydon, she should have vetoed it.
Also, while Lizzie seemed very organised to start out with - far more so than Haya - it seemed, as someone said, to fall apart as things progressed. From what Lizzie said in the boardroom, it seems like they'd only organised the first three or four items and were trusting to luck after that. Couldn't they have planned a little further ahead? Finally, while we don't have a breakdown of the fines, it seemed like the fine for not getting any discount on the shoes was substantial. In the past, contestants have asked for discounts of 1p to avoid this penalty. I think Lizzie should have pushed hard for at least a 1p discount. If she failed to get it, she might have been better failing to get the shoes at all. |
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Oh good I am not the only person that watches out for that dress every week. I even asked my hubby if we could have a whip round and get her a new outfit.
![]() Whoever told her that dress was ideal for the board room should be shot. She should have stuck with a black jacket, trousers/skirt and just changed t.shirts under for colour changes each week, if she didn't have much money to spend.
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Finally, while we don't have a breakdown of the fines, it seemed like the fine for not getting any discount on the shoes was substantial. In the past, contestants have asked for discounts of 1p to avoid this penalty. I think Lizzie should have pushed hard for at least a 1p discount. If she failed to get it, she might have been better failing to get the shoes at all.
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Similarly, if Lizzie didn't want Zara and Hailey to go to Croydon, she should have vetoed it.
It was also a bit shady how none of their team seemed to know London that well, while I got the idea that the other team did (always a bit of a vague advantage there). By the way, just like in series 6, the task was lost for the team with a PM called Liz Quote:
Finally, while we don't have a breakdown of the fines, it seemed like the fine for not getting any discount on the shoes was substantial. In the past, contestants have asked for discounts of 1p to avoid this penalty. I think Lizzie should have pushed hard for at least a 1p discount. If she failed to get it, she might have been better failing to get the shoes at all.
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Even Nick didn't seem to have a clear view on the value of the fine - saying something along the lines of "that'll be for Lord Sugar to decide."
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Harry Sloane and Harry Raaa - pistols at dawn!
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Even Nick didn't seem to have a clear view on the value of the fine - saying something along the lines of "that'll be for Lord Sugar to decide."
It makes rather a mockery of the whole task really, doesn't it? How is Lizzie supposed to work out if its worth missing out on the shoes if she doesn't know what the fine is for not being able to get a discount? Note that she did ask for one, it was just one of those places where no leeway was allowed. (Reminds me of "Not one penny!!!" from last year )
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Oh good I am not the only person that watches out for that dress every week. I even asked my hubby if we could have a whip round and get her a new outfit.
![]() Whoever told her that dress was ideal for the board room should be shot. She should have stuck with a black jacket, trousers/skirt and just changed t.shirts under for colour changes each week, if she didn't have much money to spend. The only reason you notice it with her so much as compared to the others, is because what she's wearing is visually very striking. That backfired on her, because while it made her very noticeable and looked fashionable once, now everyone's gained the notion that she blew a limited budget on one dress. |
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Forgot about that!
It makes rather a mockery of the whole task really, doesn't it? How is Lizzie supposed to work out if its worth missing out on the shoes if she doesn't know what the fine is for not being able to get a discount? Note that she did ask for one, it was just one of those places where no leeway was allowed. (Reminds me of "Not one penny!!!" from last year ) |
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Forgot about that!
It makes rather a mockery of the whole task really, doesn't it? How is Lizzie supposed to work out if its worth missing out on the shoes if she doesn't know what the fine is for not being able to get a discount? Note that she did ask for one, it was just one of those places where no leeway was allowed. (Reminds me of "Not one penny!!!" from last year )Someone was making up rules as they went along. And who on earth barters for shoes in shoe shops, and where do you find sales assistants who are empowered to set their own prices.? |
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Indeed and as the negative consequence of not getting a lower price is already allowed for in the winning calculation - because you by definition get a higher price - how was she to know that there was an extra consequence for not getting a penny taken off. As you say she can't possibly calculate the consequences of buying the shoes at that asking price or leaving them on the shelf.
Someone was making up rules as they went along. And who on earth barters for shoes in shoe shops, and where do you find sales assistants who are empowered to set their own prices.? Assistants will not be empowered to give discounts, which is why contestants would normally try and speak to the owner or manager. If they can't, it might be best to abandon that shop. This whole negotiation thing is a bit rum, though. Maybe I should try it when I go in the shop for my What's On TV; tell them I won't pay 49p and ask to pay 35p. How do you think I'll get on?
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This whole negotiation thing is a bit rum, though. Maybe I should try it when I go in the shop for my What's On TV; tell them I won't pay 49p and ask to pay 35p. How do you think I'll get on?
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