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Why So Much Hate For Anthony Cotton...?
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bouncer11
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by staceyxxx23:
“Well they show the most entertaining things in the airtime I would imagine..which is why he takes up a lot of the airtime. I can take him staying longer than Fatima and Willie even though I'm not a fan of him.”

No dear, they show us what they want us to see. The producers have their favourites and so they get more airtime, i;e Miss Cotton and Mark ( Both on other ITV shows ), it doesn't matter if it's entertaining or not.
Mirage
29-11-2011
I can't say he bothers me at all. He moans, but then so does my hubby, so probably why it doesn't bother me.

I can't say anyone really bothers me this year to be honest. It's been a very "nice" camp this year. It doesn't rank amongst my favourites, but far from being the worst. It's just nice with nobody to wind me up.
too_much_coffee
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by BlueStreak:
“One of the best ways to treat folk like that is usually to ignore them. If every time he takes 'centre stage' he thinks he has an audience watching him he will continue (audience as in his fellow camp mates). If, when he goes off on one of his hissy fits and he finds the auditorium is empty he may get the message. Either that, or stand up to him. After all, he can't get into a huff anymore than he already does. Can he? ”

Fatima seems to be the only one that's willing to stand up to him - as with yesterday's swearing disagreement - and look how he behaved. The remaining campmates are all too non confrontational to take him on. I wasn't Pat's greatest fan but at least he wasn't cowed in Cotton's presence and refused to be bullied.

The others are all terrified of Cotton's wrath - understandable when you're stuck in an enclosed space with the man
BlueStreak
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“Fatima seems to be the only one that's willing to stand up to him - as with yesterday's swearing disagreement - and look how he behaved. The remaining campmates are all too non confrontational to take him on. I wasn't Pat's greatest fan but at least he wasn't cowed in Cotton's presence and refused to be bullied.

The others are all terrified of Cotton's wrath - understandable when you're stuck in an enclosed space with the man ”

I see your point. I think as time went by Pat would have possibly told him to 'jog on'. But basically if they were truly fed up with his ways and they stuck together it may have the desired affect. I can't see that he could get much worse and they live with the way it is now, so nothing much to lose. It's a case of put up and shut up or do something about it (metaphorically speaking) United we stand, divided we fall and all that jazz as they say
unknownstuntman
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by BlueStreak:
“I see your point. I think as time went by Pat would have possibly told him to 'jog on'. But basically if they were truly fed up with his ways and they stuck together it may have the desired affect. I can't see that he could get much worse and they live with the way it is now, so nothing much to lose. It's a case of put up and shut up or do something about it (metaphorically speaking) United we stand, divided we fall and all that jazz as they say ”

I still think Freddie Starr would have told him some home truths. Or sat there and wound him up. Dammit Freddie! You and your unknown allergy!!
BlueStreak
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by unknownstuntman:
“I still think Freddie Starr would have told him some home truths. Or sat there and wound him up. Dammit Freddie! You and your unknown allergy!!”

Yes, it's all Freddie's fault the wretch lol.

I know if I were in there I would confront him, or I'd go into the BT and tell them to get him to shut the f*** up LOL!
unknownstuntman
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by BlueStreak:
“Yes, it's all Freddie's fault the wretch lol.

I know if I were in there I would confront him, or I'd go into the BT and tell them to get him to shut the f*** up LOL! ”

lol, lets blame Freddie! lol. The show needed someone like him, or a Jenny Eclair or Dom Joly.

If i was in there I'd have called him out on his behaviour too. As I would any of them who behaved like that. His behaviour is unacceptable.
fredheid123
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by CMcKinley:
“I'd love to see him in Celeb BB. I think he'd be a great housemate.”

Lamb to the slaughter comes to mind if he went in CBB
BlueStreak
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by unknownstuntman:
“lol, lets blame Freddie! lol. The show needed someone like him, or a Jenny Eclair or Dom Joly.

If i was in there I'd have called him out on his behaviour too. As I would any of them who behaved like that. His behaviour is unacceptable.”

I would have had to say something to him whether I had the back up of the others or not. If he were getting on my thungars that much I wouldn't be able to stop my mouth from opening.

I'd never knowingly or deliberately be rude to anyone or say hateful things but...............I'd certainly get my point across that he was acting a 'tad over the top' to put it mildly lol.

All in all though, I don't mind watching him in there. It's not like I have to live with him and it does make me smile when he goes off on one. Last night I said to my hubby, 'there goes minnie moaner again' and that's how I leave it.

It's only a TV show, nothing to get really het up about in the grand scheme of things
SDR-1970
29-11-2011
I am somewhat surprised that Willie hasn't stood up to Cotton. Willie Carson is normally known for not mincing his words and speaks as he finds.
radiofree
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by 40-40J's:
“I just don't get it

The program is highly edited (24 hours of action in to an hour) - so yes, he probably does moan but does he moan more than anyone else? We don't honestly know. He swears - but does he do it more than another person? We don't know. Does he really grab all the air-time? We don't know. He certainly doesn't know what's going to be highlighted or not. If we are to believe the highlights, then as far as I can tell, Willie doesn't move hardly at all and Mark and Dougie only get up to eat.... and if that's the case, who's voting to save these lazy buggers!

Some of the venom that's being spouted on this forum makes the posters no better than what they're calling Anthony Maybe it's time to get a grip....”

if, as you keep saying, 'we don't know' 'we don't know', how can anyone have a valid opinion on anything? what is the point of this forum then? no matter what person A says, person B can say 'we don't know' so the discussion grinds to a halt.
having said all that... based on what we DO know, antony cotton appears to be a very negative, self-obsessed, unpleasant, impolite drama queen. maybe the editing magnifies his bad qualities but those personality defects are clear for all to see. i don't hate him, of course. i just find him deeply unpleasant.
maureens
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by SDR-1970:
“I am somewhat surprised that Willie hasn't stood up to Cotton. Willie Carson is normally known for not mincing his words and speaks as he finds.”

Willy to me has turned into a disappointment, then again we may not be seeing the real him as the editors make sure of that?
too_much_coffee
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by maureens:
“Willy to me has turned into a disappointment, then again we may not be seeing the real him as the editors make sure of that?”

deleted - double post
sian2011
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by SDR-1970:
“I am somewhat surprised that Willie hasn't stood up to Cotton. Willie Carson is normally known for not mincing his words and speaks as he finds.”

As he said to Jessica he lets alot pass him by and ignores it. I suspect Willie has his reasons for being so quiet, knowing his reputation in the racing world he's certainly not being himself. Shame because he's a great fella, lives up to the 'small man' theory to the fullest.

Personally I don't mind Anthony, I find him funny but then I wouldn't want to live with him. I think the majority of them are so dull at least he is bringing some form of entertainment even if it is annoyance and anger from the viewers. A reaction is better than a non-reaction.
too_much_coffee
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by maureens:
“Willy to me has turned into a disappointment, then again we may not be seeing the real him as the editors make sure of that?”

I think that we're being well and truly diddled by the editing. Yesterday when Jess was talking to Ant & Dec she said how entertained she had been by all Willie's stories Obviously nothing must interfere with the Mark & Anthony Show
Tissy
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“I think that we're being well and truly diddled by the editing. Yesterday when she was talking to Ant & Dec she mentioned how entertained she was by all Willie's stories ”

Remember this happened with that DJ Mike ReId <?>
The campmates were saying what a joker he was and life and soul of the camp - we never saw any of it.

The editing can hide things as easily as it can h/l someone`s behaviour.
40-40J's
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by Unigal07:
“He's aggressive, self-centred, foul mouthed, bitchy, nasty, sly, a drama queen and will do absolutely anything to be centre of attention.

Is that enough reasons for you, OP?”

Errr... no, actually! Aggressive OMG I've heard it all now...

Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“Fatima seems to be the only one that's willing to stand up to him - as with yesterday's swearing disagreement - and look how he behaved. The remaining campmates are all too non confrontational to take him on. I wasn't Pat's greatest fan but at least he wasn't cowed in Cotton's presence and refused to be bullied.

The others are all terrified of Cotton's wrath - understandable when you're stuck in an enclosed space with the man ”

Bully? "...to afraid to take him on"?. "non confrontational" campmates?. "...terrified of Cotton's wrath"? Is Anthony Cotton a mafia boss or something...

Originally Posted by SDR-1970:
“I am somewhat surprised that Willie hasn't stood up to Cotton. Willie Carson is normally known for not mincing his words and speaks as he finds.”

Maybe because there's nothing to "stand up" to...

Originally Posted by radiofree:
“if, as you keep saying, 'we don't know' 'we don't know', how can anyone have a valid opinion on anything? what is the point of this forum then? no matter what person A says, person B can say 'we don't know' so the discussion grinds to a halt.
having said all that... based on what we DO know, antony cotton appears to be a very negative, self-obsessed, unpleasant, impolite drama queen. maybe the editing magnifies his bad qualities but those personality defects are clear for all to see. i don't hate him, of course. i just find him deeply unpleasant.”

The point of this forum, I thought, was to discuss things. It seems to me that the posters who are slating Cotton are no better than what their saying Cotton is. As soon as someone disagrees with another posters opinion, then they have a hissy fit, they turn in to that 'drama queen', they certainly become very 'impolite' and 'unpleasant' to other forum members.

...good job I don't mind a little bit of confrontation...!

Originally Posted by maureens:
“Willy to me has turned into a disappointment, then again we may not be seeing the real him as the editors make sure of that?”

Is Willie only a disappointment to you because he isn't seeing Anthony in the same way as you? As I said before, maybe things with Anthony are not quite as they appear. The bush telegraph is there for all to go and rant and rave at anything that's bothering them - why aren't they in there ranting about Anthony?

I still don't get it...
linnylou
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by Bathsheba:
“I like him, he is probably my favourite.”

Mine too.Without him it would be quite dull.
too_much_coffee
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by 40-40J's:
“ The bush telegraph is there for all to go and rant and rave at anything that's bothering them - why aren't they in there ranting about Anthony?

I still don't get it...”

Perhaps because it doesn't get shown. The BT is Anthony's domain this year and we hardly get to see anyone else in there unfortunately
BlueStreak
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“Perhaps because it doesn't get shown. The BT is Anthony's domain this year and we hardly get to see anyone else in there unfortunately”

I wish we could see more of what is going on. I hate to say it, but I don't think Anthony can be blamed for how the show is edited. Unless it was written in his contract that he should hog all the limelight.

Hopefully, we'll see more of the others tonight, but I'm not holding my breath 'sigh'

Brighton Babe
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by BlueStreak:
“I wish we could see more of what is going on. I hate to say it, but I don't think Anthony can be blamed for how the show is edited. Unless it was written in his contract that he should hog all the limelight.

Hopefully, we'll see more of the others tonight, but I'm not holding my breath 'sigh'

”

You are quite right. Antony has no control over how the show is edited. Unfortunately the editing is doing him no favours but that is only because he is showing that he is not a very nice person.

The unpleasant Antony appears far more than the nice Antony, so one can only assume there is very little footage of Antony being very nice!
BlueStreak
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by Brighton Babe:
“You are quite right. Antony has no control over how the show is edited. Unfortunately the editing is doing him no favours but that is only because he is showing that he is not a very nice person.

The unpleasant Antony appears far more than the nice Antony, so one can only assume there is very little footage of Antony being very nice!”

I agree. Basically I think what you see is what you get, however unsavoury that may be
Scarlett Berry
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by radiofree:
“if, as you keep saying, 'we don't know' 'we don't know', how can anyone have a valid opinion on anything? what is the point of this forum then? no matter what person A says, person B can say 'we don't know' so the discussion grinds to a halt.
having said all that... based on what we DO know, antony cotton appears to be a very negative, self-obsessed, unpleasant, impolite drama queen. maybe the editing magnifies his bad qualities but those personality defects are clear for all to see. i don't hate him, of course. i just find him deeply unpleasant.”

Well said.
Brighton Babe
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by 40-40J's:
“Errr... no, actually! Aggressive OMG I've heard it all now...
.”

Yup... I also believe that he is very aggressive. The highlights have showed that several times.

Originally Posted by 40-40J's:
“The point of this forum, I thought, was to discuss things. It seems to me that the posters who are slating Cotton are no better than what their saying Cotton is. As soon as someone disagrees with another posters opinion, then they have a hissy fit, they turn in to that 'drama queen', they certainly become very 'impolite' and 'unpleasant' to other forum members.

...good job I don't mind a little bit of confrontation...!

.”

The FM's you speak of sound as though they are being hypocritical and acting just as Antony cotton acts. i.e. 'impolite' and 'unpleasant' which he quite clearly is.
too_much_coffee
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by Brighton Babe:
“Yup... I also believe that he is very aggressive. The highlights have showed that several times.



The FM's you speak of sound as though they are being hypocritical and acting just as Antony cotton acts. i.e. 'impolite' and 'unpleasant' which he quite clearly is.”

From what we've seen of Cotton so far he could give the worst FMs a run for their money on the impolite or unpleasant front
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