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Reggie Rebel
29-11-2011
Loved Harry H shooting down Harry M by saying "I'd have taken you back into the boardroom, you were the weakest one there"
madetomeasure
29-11-2011
I thought it was inappropriate at the house and quite unnecessary. In the boardroom yes, but not in front of all the others in the house. That was just a mean put down.
Reggie Rebel
29-11-2011
Depends on the context, there could have been banter before hand that we didn't see or a general conversation as to Harry M not going in and Hayley pointing out he'd lost every task.
madetomeasure
29-11-2011
True. I did think it out of character for H. I like the guy. I think M does well at selling, although I cringe whenever he approaches somebody and starts with "I don't suppose......". If somebody was selling me something and said "I don't suppose you would like to buy this would you?" I'd say "You don't suppose right! It's a closed question and just awful in selling or buying products.
whedon247
29-11-2011
it was rude and i thought it was bullying them all having a laugh at him

they werent on his team,they dont know if harry m deserved to go back to board room

harry h was an idiot there
madetomeasure
29-11-2011
I couldn't remember whether or not M was in the same team as H but of course he wasn't so who was he to judge how M performed?
The Rhydler
29-11-2011
Exactly

H was a massive prick at the end there.
madetomeasure
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“Exactly

H was a massive prick at the end there.”

Lol, couldn't have put it better myself
The Rhydler
29-11-2011
I'm hoping he falls off his pedestal. He hasnt been perfect in this process.
meglosmurmurs
29-11-2011
Ah there's another thread on this lol

I thought it was rather uncalled for. Leave the fighting for the boardroom I think. Anyone that takes it back to the house is just looking like a poor sport.
Harry H wasn't even on Harry M's team in order to make that judgement. I mean you've got to believe that Lizzie would have took Harry M in that boardroom if it would have benefitted her, obviously she felt it didn't.

Think they are rather intimidated by Harry M continued presence (the fact he won't go ), because they try to bring him down any chance they can, almost out of desperation.
Jenkins123
29-11-2011
Harry H is awful, dont fall for his nice guy act, i know his type.

Harry M is a great character full of energy and enthusiasm which is infectious. I like how he just brushes of people snide remarks too.

Good salesman and he has the ability to think outside the box! He was one of the strongest this week.
Shrike
29-11-2011
I'm suprised at all the anti Harry H sentiment today - I always had him down as one of the strongest in the show.
As for Harry M - he has undoubted strengths, but he is a very poor team player and a dreadful leader - its his way or the highway and he's not always right.
People have been mentioning Tom Pellerau's poor win record, but I think it significant that it was only at about week 9 that Tom was brought into a final BR, whilst Harry has been in twice already - which shows Tom's teammates didn't find him culpable, whilst Harrys have.
The Rhydler
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by Shrike:
“I'm suprised at all the anti Harry H sentiment today - I always had him down as one of the strongest in the show.
As for Harry M - he has undoubted strengths, but he is a very poor team player and a dreadful leader - its his way or the highway and he's not always right.
People have been mentioning Tom Pellerau's poor win record, but I think it significant that it was only at about week 9 that Tom was brought into a final BR, whilst Harry has been in twice already - which shows Tom's teammates didn't find him culpable, whilst Harrys have.”

But there's less people in the younger version, so more chance of being pulled in.
Star_Bright
29-11-2011
Yeah, H saying that wasn't very nice. M may be annoying, but he isn't that bad really. I'm starting to like him.
DavetheScot
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by Shrike:
“I'm suprised at all the anti Harry H sentiment today - I always had him down as one of the strongest in the show.
As for Harry M - he has undoubted strengths, but he is a very poor team player and a dreadful leader - its his way or the highway and he's not always right.”

I agree that Harry H is the strongest contender; indeed, I'm struggling to see who could beat him. Harry M was, as you say, a poor leader, refusing to listen or budge when given sensible advice. James is too disruptive and Zara has been labelled as "domineering" (funny how this is only considered a bad trait in females). Lizzie proved a weak leader in the latest task, and while Haya in many ways enhanced her position, she was quite disorganised and academic types like her aren't really Sugar's thing.

I think Harry H's comment came in the context of a discussion about the boardroom, and was fair enough in that context. I did feel a little for Harry M, though; he looked quite surprised and hurt (and I say that as someone who doesn't like him)
UnrealityTV
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“it was rude and i thought it was bullying”

Expressing an honest opinion to someone is 'bullying'? Do people really have such thin skins these days?

Jesus...
The Rhydler
30-11-2011
But if you add it to Harry's overall treatment, it does amount to bullying, as all the candidates seem to be doing their utmost to rubbish him. They know he's intelligent and they see him as a threat.

I was a James fan at the start and I still enjoy watching his laid-back approach to things, but I've become a solid Harry M supporter now as I like to see someone triumph over adversity. Harry M won't win, but I hope he is at least in the final.
UnrealityTV
30-11-2011
What 'overall treatment'? He's been on the losing team every time. One idea every episode does not a great businessman make. And when it's topped with the smug 'lord of the manor'; act, then no wonder he gets up people's noses.

If they'd all started shouting and screaming at him or completely ignoring him then maybe, but do me a favour! He is NOT being 'bullied'! Don't be pathetic.

If people on this forum think that's 'bullying' then how on earth do you survive in the big, bad old world out there? Run to social services every time someone says anything other than "You are brilliant and wonderful and so clever, darling?"

If you are acting like a nob, sometimes it does one's sense of self-awareness the power of good to be told so. Better that than be continually surrounded by sycophants who tell you you're faultless. Because nobody is.
The Rhydler
30-11-2011
I know perfectly well what bullying is thank you, having experianced a slice of it in my younger days. Its more than just being physically abused, or even verbally so. It's being ostracised, or spoken down to, or belittled - bullying can be subtle.

Usually, I would refute cries of bullying, and Harry M certainly has shoulders broad enough to shrug off the pathetic jealous comments of others, but all the little digs, all the moments where the room goes silent at the end when the loathed Harry M has seen off one of their pals...it all amounts to the same thing - persecution.
UnrealityTV
01-12-2011
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“I know perfectly well what bullying is thank you”

Given what you've said, you obviously don't!

I really hope that the posters on this thread are teenagers, otherwise the obvious crushes on Harry M on show are definitely verging on the creepy.
WinterFire
01-12-2011
Originally Posted by DavetheScot:
“I agree that Harry H is the strongest contender; indeed, I'm struggling to see who could beat him.”

What has being the strongest candidate got to do with winning The Apprentice?
The Rhydler
01-12-2011
Originally Posted by UnrealityTV:
“Given what you've said, you obviously don't”

Strike that, reverse it.
Eagle9a
01-12-2011
I saw that as realistic banter. The point being that from a gameplay position HarryM was an obvious target having lost all previous tasks. I dont think the comment was intended personally ie it could have been said about anybody in the same position.

Obviously my personal view of a situation liable to many interpretations.
UnrealityTV
01-12-2011
Originally Posted by Eagle9a:
“I saw that as realistic banter. The point being that from a gameplay position HarryM was an obvious target having lost all previous tasks. I dont think the comment was intended personally ie it could have been said about anybody in the same position.

Obviously my personal view of a situation liable to many interpretations.”

I agree with you, Eagle and appreciate your final sentence - a position which most sensible people would adopt.

Alas it seems that The Rhydler cannot bear other people to have alternative points of view to her own, so blinded is she by her crush on a teenage boy
The Rhydler
01-12-2011
Do what?

I have no amorous intentions towards Harry M, I'm a str8 male of 30, I'm quite offended by that implication!!

However, you're not too far from the truth regarding others silly views
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