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Janet Speaks out about Misha's "Bullying"
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spkx
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by cybergirl3:
“This is not the first time someone on the show has said Misha didn't bully anyone on the show. Even the person that said it (Louis) has since back tracked, yet people are still beating the dead horse to a pulp. And thumbs up to them, I hope they can channel that stick-to-itiveness to their day to day lives.”

Others have said that there were arguments though, Kitty and also Yvie (when she was there with Rebecca Ferguson last week)
BillyBoy7
29-11-2011
One thing about Janet... Especially now that she's out and has no reason to 'crawl' to people in the show... She strikes me as honest.
If that is so, it raises the question, who lied about Misha. ... Did an act really tell Tulisa, or Louis, that Misha was bullying? ... And if so which act? ...Or did Tulisa, or Louis, invent the whole thing probably for tactical reasons?
Who is more likely to use tactics? ..That might give us a clue.
It would be interesting to know the truth, but I guess we never will.
Eurostar
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by cybergirl3:
“This is not the first time someone on the show has said Misha didn't bully anyone on the show. Even the person that said it (Louis) has since back tracked, yet people are still beating the dead horse to a pulp. And thumbs up to them, I hope they can channel that stick-to-itiveness to their day to day lives.”

The word "bully" was the wrong one to use. By all accounts, Misha was acting like a bit of a diva in the house and clashed verbally with Little Mix and Tulisa on one occasion, but this wasn't bullying behaviour.
jkuharic
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by E05297535:
“and she lied about not singing cos she was sick when in fact she forgot the words!!”

State that she is a weak singer, ok, your opinion, but how can you claim she lied Where did that come from ? Why would she do that?
cybergirl3
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by spkx:
“Others have said that there were arguments though, Kitty and also Yvie (when she was there with Rebecca Ferguson last week)”

No doubt there have been arguments, you put that many people in the that sort of situation sparks will fly. I don't expect them to be singing Kumbaya. It is like big brother without the cameras.

I doubt Kitty was an innocent bystander in some of those arguments.
Eurostar
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by spkx:
“Others have said that there were arguments though, Kitty and also Yvie (when she was there with Rebecca Ferguson last week)”

The story goes that Misha went into Little Mix's room and chucked all their things around and threw some of their clothes into the corridor. This happened when Little Mix and Tulisa were out for the day. When they returned, Tulisa went berserk and confronted Misha : Misha went toe to toe with her and refused to apologise, and it was this that led to Tulisa having a go with her on the show.

One theory is that the producers sanctioned Tulisa's showdon with Misha on the live show in order to put manners on the latter.
E05297535
29-11-2011
Janet said on xtra factor on Sat she forgot the line because she wanted to throw up...she thought she ate something dodgy. On the main show, she just wanted to throw up.....no mention of forgeting lines etc. And she would rather not throw up on stage here and then!! If you have catch up, see it for yourself!!
MARTYM8
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by tim38x:
“"Janet fans" do not bash Misha. I am a Janet fan, and I have never bashed Misha. I don't like Misha's voice, but I don't post nasty things about her or believe any of the tabloid nonsense.

Yes, some individuals do bash Misha, I am not going to defend them. Yet here are you, bashing all Janet fans. And I have seen so many posts from you bashing Janet as well.

How are you any better?

The point is the same. Bashing contestants is just unjustified hate-mongering. Regardless of the target.”

Exactly - a lot of Misha and Janet fans feel they were both shabbilly treated by the show. Admittedly in different ways e.g. being labelled a bully vs being given early voting slots.

If people have any dislike - show it to Cowell Syco and the producers. They are the ones responsible - and unlike Janet and Misha who are earning little more than minimum wage they are raking in millions!
grimtales1
29-11-2011
Seeing as the bully claims have been refuted by Sami and now Janet and how Misha gets along with both of them, and never bullied anyone on the show I hope T & L are pleased with themselves Louis has backtracked since however and did apologise.
There were probably arguments though, tensions are bound to be high.
jkuharic
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by E05297535:
“Janet said on xtra factor on Sat she forgot the line because she wanted to throw up...she thought she ate something dodgy. On the main show, she just wanted to throw up.....no mention of forgeting lines etc. And she would rather not throw up on stage here and then!! If you have catch up, see it for yourself!!”

I did see it, but what you said doesnt lead to her lying

Are you claiming that she was claiming that she didnt forget the lyrics? Thats what I can gather from your post.

But ok, think what you want to think, I dont think she lied, I dont see the reasoning in your post, but ok, we are getting off-topic.
E05297535
29-11-2011
She should have been honest thats all (from the main show) expecially when Louis was questioning her about it during his critic (i.e forgetting her words at this stage in the competition). MHO...it seem she had a thought about it and decided to mention forgetting her line(s) when both Olly and Caroline mention it again in her interview!!

I am only outlining what I bothg saw and heard on the 2 shows....Janet may have had her reasons for not mentioning it at 1st, after all she is trying to impress the Judges as well as the GBP!!
Eurostar
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by grimtales1:
“Seeing as the bully claims have been refuted by Sami and now Janet and how Misha gets along with both of them, and never bullied anyone on the show I hope T & L are pleased with themselves Louis has backtracked since however and did apologise.
There were probably arguments though, tensions are bound to be high.”

Louis has more than made up for it though : pleading for votes for Misha every week and sending Janet home in her favour at the weekend.
Miah1976
29-11-2011
That article stinks of "Things you must day to the media after you've been booted out" to me. They are desperate to have Misha in the final. Janets contract doesn't end with her elimination, everything she puts out there is carefully orchestrated by Syco.
mememee
29-11-2011
Well done Janet for exposing Tulisa and Louis for what they are! Venomous little liars who will destroy anything in their path, even if it means humiliating a young girl live on national tv. Yes, Tulisa you may win X Factor with Little Mix but lost all dignity on the way. Congratulations!
Jonjo69
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by E05297535:
“THANK YOU JANET....and why should she have to lie now that she is out of the competitionn eh Janet fans?? Still won't stop the 'Misha haters' out there...but who cares? Go knock yourselves out for all the venom raging inside you all...you still need to let it out somehow!! LOL”

What do you mean 'out of the competition'? Do you live in fairy land?

Janet's under contract for another year. If she says anything too out of line she'd risk forfeiting a huge sum of money. They are all managed, even when they leave. Yes, you could slag people off but you'd run a huge risk. You will hear some little snippets, but most will be very carefully controlled by the production teams.

Either look to what they don't say or wait a year to they're shelled out the other end and can speak their minds.
benfoldsfan
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by mememee:
“Well done Janet for exposing Tulisa and Louis for what they are! Venomous little liars who will destroy anything in their path, even if it means humiliating a young girl live on national tv. Yes, Tulisa you may win X Factor with Little Mix but lost all dignity on the way. Congratulations!”

the truth will out eventually. i think louis was v. wrong to call misha a bully, but i don't think misha is 100% blameless in this matter.
E05297535
29-11-2011
If you say so Jonjo69....-I'm getting rather bored now!!
mememee
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by Jonjo69:
“What do you mean 'out of the competition'? Do you live in fairy land?

Janet's under contract for another year. If she says anything too out of line she'd risk forfeiting a huge sum of money. They are all managed, even when they leave. Yes, you could slag people off but you'd run a huge risk. You will hear some little snippets, but most will be very carefully controlled by the production teams.

Either look to what they don't say or wait a year to they're shelled out the other end and can speak their minds.”

How pathetic of you to dry find a loop hole in this story. Janet was not obliged to answer any questions and therefore could have just responded with 'I don't want to talk about that'. However, she went to the extent of calling Louis and Tulisa liars. Now I'm sure that's not something the x factor would want? But wait, you said she has a contractual agreement...does that mean she has just broken it? Exposing two of the four judges as liars? I mean, that is very bad publicity for Tulisa who they are seemingly planning to bring back next year!

Now stop making up so much rubbish so you can hate on the most talented in the competition!

Peace
Lemmie0269
30-11-2011
Wouldn't trust anything Tellymix say on the subject either way.

On their, "more on this story section" just below there's a link to a story from 10 days ago, "X Factor 2011: Janet Devlin and Misha B at war!" Tellymix don't seem to me to take a consistent stance on anything.

We're never going to know the truth on this. It's done. History. We're also not going to change each others opinions on it. It's pointless trying.
TammyTam
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by Sylvia:
“It has made a difference to Misha - she's the best singer in the competition but has been in danger of being eliminated 2 or 3 times.”

It's The X Factor, who cares.

She'll get signed anyway. She's made it far enough, and I wouldn't wish the winner's curse on her regardless.
cooler
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by Garza:
“I have never understood the hatred of people on reality shows. Live is too short to hate, especially people you don't know.”

So if life was long, it would be OK to hate?
Danny_Girl
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by OMGItsAnnie:
“Of course she would do anything in her power to defend Misha Bully”

Please go out and get a life!

These are reality TV contestants, you don't know them as real people, just by the persona that is projected by the VT and red tops. How can you possibly say with any certainty that Misha has been bullying other contestants? This was put out by the X-Factor production team and judges to boost viewing figures. None of the contestants who have left the show have supported the claims of Misha being a bully, in fact Sami and Janet have been vocal in saying the allegations are not true.

Can you tell me what it would take for you change your opinion of her as a bully?
MinnyMau5
30-11-2011
Lol "pile of poo"
adorable
SAFIAH
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by tim38x:
“The problem is that some forum members propagate that hate back again, with thier own hate posts, they are in their post history. Hate posts breed more hate posts.

Are you any better than those you are slamming? People like you and SAFIAH forever complain about hate posts against Misha, with some justification, and yet at the same time, forever make hate posts of your own against other contestants.

Yes, the tabloids print garbage about all of them (that is 99% untrue in every case), and the hate-filled amongst the forum posters just attack anyone who is not their favourite. Which leads to lots of untrue malicious nonsense about Misha. And equally untrue malicious nonsense about Janet and other contestants.

The reality is, Janet, Misha, Amelia, the rest, all get along fine with eachother, they are all just normal people. I never believed any of the bullying nonsense about Misha, but equally some of the nasty things printed about other contestants is also garbage.

Two wrongs do not make a right.

Which is why it is best to stay out of the hate-mongering.”

Excuse me but don't start making untrue statements about me making hate posts as you call it!

I have never made any such posts and so therefore you need to stop with that rubbish as it is a nasty cheap shot.

The only if you can call it that negative posts I have made were to do with janets vocals which I have called weak out of tune and likened to yoddeling. How is that a hate post?

I have never made any personal nasty comments about janet regarding how she looks or her attitude or anything of that nature so therefore would appreciate that you get your facts straight before posting BS about me
DreamingDan
30-11-2011
I always said people use the term bully far to lightly these days.
I mean I can imagine Misha being a bit of a Diva and might not be the most pleasant person to be around in a stressful environment like the X-factor but that doesn't make her a bully.
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