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Official Formula 1 Thread (Part 7)
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dsweetenham
27-05-2012
Originally Posted by mel_drew:
“Of course, mens gymnastics is universaly popular, whilst F1 is very much a minority, niche sport. In the eyes of the BBC!

Mind you, I'm not especially bothered about seeing any more of this borefest. As others have said, Monaco is all about the glitz, and nothing to do with motor racing.

It's a shame that the BBC felt the need to include this as one of their full coverage races. A ten minute programme of highlights would have been quite enough.”

It is an Olympic year so they've rightly been covering sports that will feature. Even though I don't like gymnastics it's been an important event, Britain won their first ever team gold yesterday and they did have a contender today.

As for picking Monaco, it's a massive event in the calendar that would attract a casual fan even if Canada makes for better racing not showing live Monaco would be leave a huge hole.

The format of the agreement with Sky does tie their hands to an extent as well (i.e. they can't show 3 live races in a row).
Si_Crewe
27-05-2012
Just looking at the replays and it seems that Grosjean was responsible for his own downfall.
He squeezed Schumacher against the wall and then when Schuey braked for turn 1 Grosjean's rear wheel drove over Shuey's front.

Shame really.
When he's going well I reckon Grosjean is at least the equal of Kimmi but he just can't seem to manage to keep out of trouble.
David Tee
27-05-2012
That was about the dullest F1 GP I think I've ever seen - and I've been watching since the 60's.

Either they create passing places in Monaco, or they should ditch it. It may be a superb test of driving but it's definitely NOT racing.
Liamforking
27-05-2012
Originally Posted by David Tee:
“That was about the dullest F1 GP I think I've ever seen - and I've been watching since the 60's.

Either they create passing places in Monaco, or they should ditch it. It may be a superb test of driving but it's definitely NOT racing.”

Agreed. They should go to Macau instead.
elfcurry
27-05-2012
A race where overtaking is nearly impossible is close to pointless. People might break down or have a pit problem but that's not very exciting. If the only possible changes of position are due contact, mechanical fault, or slow pit stops why not just have the qualifying and declare a result?

I'd also like to see designated overtaking places.
North Downs
27-05-2012
Originally Posted by David Tee:
“That was about the dullest F1 GP I think I've ever seen - and I've been watching since the 60's.

Either they create passing places in Monaco, or they should ditch it. It may be a superb test of driving but it's definitely NOT racing.”

Exactly, I was praying for rain to liven things up.
fluffed
27-05-2012
This was a "Thrilling" GP according to the BBC frontpage, I would really hate to see a dull one if that's true. Two hours of cars driving round in order, only overtakes in pitstops - thrilling...
Mystical123
27-05-2012
I would never wish a big accident on any driver, but I think it says a lot when that's about the only thing that shakes up a Monaco GP these days...

I think there were about 2 overtakes all race, and even when it started to rain everyone just uniformly slowed down.

They need to make overtaking more possible, strategy may be crucial but it's also very boring when that's all there is...
Woodentop
27-05-2012
Had to watch the BBC today. How on earth did they see it as so exciting? It's the same as usual and being on Pole then leading into first corner and it's all but done. Only Alonso did a pass in the pitstop and that was more perhaps down to Hamilton not doing so well in around his own.

Eddie Jordon is full of nonsense waxing on about a few seconds covering 6 great drivers and feeling the need to tell us to accept how great F1 is. He's no salesman and often found out talkng b*llocks ' in his view'. On the forum he grabbed Bob Mckenzie, Lee's dad, a journalist and was aghast by his view of a boring procession as his headline!
TheFridge
27-05-2012
I agree with the concensus that the race was as dull as dish water , you just know nothing much is going to happen at Monaco , great setting but a shite race.
soulboy77
27-05-2012
Originally Posted by Si_Crewe:
“Just looking at the replays and it seems that Grosjean was responsible for his own downfall.
He squeezed Schumacher against the wall and then when Schuey braked for turn 1 Grosjean's rear wheel drove over Shuey's front.

Shame really.
When he's going well I reckon Grosjean is at least the equal of Kimmi but he just can't seem to manage to keep out of trouble.”

I have some sympathy for Grosjean. One of the Ferrari's put it's wheel between his on the right and he was just trying to avoid this by moving to the left but space was limited because Shuey was coming up fast alongside him. So he didn't really have any room to manoeuvre on either side so it was inevitable that he was going to have a coming together with one of the cars.
gomezz
28-05-2012
I think the Mercedes PR lady needs to have a quiet word with Nico. Standing on the podium with one hand on hip is *not* a good look and is actually disrespectful while the anthems are being played.
jmclaugh
28-05-2012
Ano boring Monaco GP which is as close to Scaletrix as you can get in F1 not helped by Pirelli tyres that for a change didn't wear out when of all places this is the track you needed them too.
JSemple3
28-05-2012
The first lap was exciting btw anybody know of any viewing figures for sky/bbc with all the races in general? Curious as to see how they both doing (Over the season so far I should say and not just the monaco GP)
Si_Crewe
28-05-2012
Originally Posted by soulboy77:
“I have some sympathy for Grosjean. One of the Ferrari's put it's wheel between his on the right and he was just trying to avoid this by moving to the left but space was limited because Shuey was coming up fast alongside him. So he didn't really have any room to manoeuvre on either side so it was inevitable that he was going to have a coming together with one of the cars.”

Uhuh.

I'm not really a fan of Kimmi but it's not just that which makes me want to see Grosjean do as well as him.
I'd like to see Grosjean do well simply to prove that the biggest difference between a world-champion and a "failure" is simply the circumstances of their career rather than any real difference in ability.
fluffed
28-05-2012
5 overtakes this year, 22 in 2011.
Woodentop
28-05-2012
Originally Posted by fluffed:
“5 overtakes this year, 22 in 2011.”

Schumacher slowing to retire was 4 of those!
Mark F
28-05-2012
Originally Posted by fluffed:
“This was a "Thrilling" GP according to the BBC frontpage, I would really hate to see a dull one if that's true. Two hours of cars driving round in order, only overtakes in pitstops - thrilling...”

They only said that due to the small time difference between the cares finishing really..
Si_Crewe
28-05-2012
Originally Posted by fluffed:
“5 overtakes this year, 22 in 2011.”

Originally Posted by Woodentop:
“Schumacher slowing to retire was 4 of those!”

That sounds about right.

The only "genuine" overtake I saw was when Perez, I think, tried to overtake somebody out of the tunnel and it all got a bit messy and one of them went onto across the chicane so the place was yeilded back and then immediately retaken again.

Hard to believe that Turkey has gone from the calendar and even races like Spa and Silverstone are under threat and yet Monaco still seems to be part of the furniture in F1.
bingoman
28-05-2012
it was the worst Monaco GP i have seen, the only best bit about was near the end with all six Car following each other
ICT User 77
29-05-2012
As mentioned, not the most interesting race but with every race having a different winner should certainly be an interesting season.
Assa2
29-05-2012
Monaco is safe on the calendar because it's the perfect place to entertain. The Beautiful People congregate at Monaco so the manufacturers can bring their own people to mingle with them. The media love it and I also think the drivers like the challenge. It's not the most entertaining race but it hasn't been for the 30 years I've been watching F1 and this year was slightly more example than many races I can remeber simply because of how close it was. However I totally accept that it was close not because everyone was running as fast as each other flat out but because everyone was managing they tyres so carefully.
ACU
29-05-2012
Originally Posted by Assa2:
“Monaco is safe on the calendar because it's the perfect place to entertain. The Beautiful People congregate at Monaco so the manufacturers can bring their own people to mingle with them. The media love it and I also think the drivers like the challenge. It's not the most entertaining race but it hasn't been for the 30 years I've been watching F1 and this year was slightly more example than many races I can remeber simply because of how close it was. However I totally accept that it was close not because everyone was running as fast as each other flat out but because everyone was managing they tyres so carefully.”

I agree Monaco is a great place to entertain the teams sponsors. Its where all the big money deals get done. As others have said, its there for sponsors rather than the racing.

Why is Kartikayan even allowed in F1? This muppet couldnt even go around the hairpin without screwing it up. His only contribution to this years championships is to slice Vettels tyre.

I watched a bit of the Indy 500 in the evening...made the Monaco GP look like an entertaining race. Barichello and Sato were both racing there. From what I friend told me, Sato was in 2nd place on the last lap - he tried to overtake the leader, messed it up and crashed.
Si_Crewe
30-05-2012
Originally Posted by Assa2:
“Monaco is safe on the calendar because it's the perfect place to entertain. The Beautiful People congregate at Monaco so the manufacturers can bring their own people to mingle with them. The media love it and I also think the drivers like the challenge. It's not the most entertaining race but it hasn't been for the 30 years I've been watching F1 and this year was slightly more example than many races I can remeber simply because of how close it was. However I totally accept that it was close not because everyone was running as fast as each other flat out but because everyone was managing they tyres so carefully.”

I wonder if they could replace the Monaco race with some kind of sprint or pursuit event instead?

Regular quali' session on saturday.
Grid divided into 6 "groups" on the basis of quali' position.

On sunday each group takes to the grid and the cars start at 10 second intervals to complete, say, 15 laps using both tyres.
Group winner is the guy with the fastest time.

Quali' success would mean that you'd start sooner so your tyres wouldn't be cooling on the grid for as long.
Teams could strategise over whether to start on the hard or soft tyre and how many laps to do on each tyre.

After each group race the winners from each group would participate in a similar "final" so the overall race time would be roughly the same as a traditional race.

I know it's a million miles from proper F1 but, let's face it, fans DO love the quali' sessions because there's always something happening so there's always something to be excited about.
With a series of timed sprints going on there'd always be something to see and something to get excited about.
Mr. Brightside
30-05-2012
Originally Posted by ACU:
“I agree Monaco is a great place to entertain the teams sponsors. Its where all the big money deals get done. As others have said, its there for sponsors rather than the racing.

Why is Kartikayan even allowed in F1? This muppet couldnt even go around the hairpin without screwing it up. His only contribution to this years championships is to slice Vettels tyre.

I watched a bit of the Indy 500 in the evening...made the Monaco GP look like an entertaining race. Barichello and Sato were both racing there. From what I friend told me, Sato was in 2nd place on the last lap - he tried to overtake the leader, messed it up and crashed.”

Tata motors money, the only sponsor that HRT have by the looks, for teams like that its all about money till they can 'establish' themselves and get sponsors onboard, and with how much of a farce theyve been in the last 2 years they need all the money they can get till they get this madrid base set up properly and establish themselves
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