Originally Posted by ACU:
“Yes I am positive.
Ferrari isnt brilliant on the tyres, well not at the start of the season. Was in the 3rd or 4th race of the season, where Alonso lost about 4 or 5 places on the last but one lap, because his tyres were shot to pieces?
The Ferrari was a dog to drive, at the beginning of the season. Everyone said so, it was no secret. They may have benefited from unpredictable conditions, but thats life. The Mclaren has been better than the Ferrari all season, its now the best car on the grid. I dont think anyone, but you (?), would deny this. You are the one that seems to be ignorant of facts. You want to ignore facts, so you see Hamilton in a better light. ”
“Yes I am positive.
Ferrari isnt brilliant on the tyres, well not at the start of the season. Was in the 3rd or 4th race of the season, where Alonso lost about 4 or 5 places on the last but one lap, because his tyres were shot to pieces?
The Ferrari was a dog to drive, at the beginning of the season. Everyone said so, it was no secret. They may have benefited from unpredictable conditions, but thats life. The Mclaren has been better than the Ferrari all season, its now the best car on the grid. I dont think anyone, but you (?), would deny this. You are the one that seems to be ignorant of facts. You want to ignore facts, so you see Hamilton in a better light. ”
No, you;re dealing in sweeping statements that don't bear up. The Ferrari was pretty kind on its tires, much like the Sauber because....they share the same engine! The characteristics of the engine at the rev range on corner exists meant that the rear tires didn't degrade as much.
I've no doubt that the car as a whole had sone handling issues, which were quickly sorted when the season hit Europe. But the important thing this season, is how easy the cars are on their tires, and the Ferrari and Reanult powered cars were VERY good.
Look...you do realise that you're actually talking to somebody who has spent a large portion of the last 14 years working on race car simulations for video games and real world applications. Right? While I'm no genius, I'm also no slop when it comes to working out what's going on with the handling of a race car.
As it happens, tire dynamics are one of my special fields in that respect, along with power trains.
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“Hamilton has done well, but has made some very stupid/glaring errors, which Alonso hasnt and wouldnt make. As I have said in the past, Hamilton hasnt got the brains. For him it seems to be an all or nothing attitude, whereas Alonso seems to be a lot smarter in this instance. The Maldonado/Hamilton incident, been done to death in this forum, a smart driver would have let Maldonado past, Hamilton didnt. Hamilton chose the wrong setup for Spa, not Mclaren. He then had a strop when Button beat him in quali and posted their telemetry on twitter. Mclaren have made mistakes during the season. However Ferrari have made mistakes by producing a dog of a car at the start of the season.
Button has had a shocker of a season, yet he is only 23 points behind Hamilton. Doesnt say that much about Hamilton, and his amazing ability to get the most out of a car.
Dont get me wrong Hamilton is a very good driver. However he does need to mature quite a bit and improve his skill, before he can be considered a great.”
“Hamilton has done well, but has made some very stupid/glaring errors, which Alonso hasnt and wouldnt make. As I have said in the past, Hamilton hasnt got the brains. For him it seems to be an all or nothing attitude, whereas Alonso seems to be a lot smarter in this instance. The Maldonado/Hamilton incident, been done to death in this forum, a smart driver would have let Maldonado past, Hamilton didnt. Hamilton chose the wrong setup for Spa, not Mclaren. He then had a strop when Button beat him in quali and posted their telemetry on twitter. Mclaren have made mistakes during the season. However Ferrari have made mistakes by producing a dog of a car at the start of the season.
Button has had a shocker of a season, yet he is only 23 points behind Hamilton. Doesnt say that much about Hamilton, and his amazing ability to get the most out of a car.
Dont get me wrong Hamilton is a very good driver. However he does need to mature quite a bit and improve his skill, before he can be considered a great.”
There's no point in discussing this with you any further. If you can happily ignore the massive amount of errors from the operation side of things for Hamilton this season, as well as DNF's that were down to other drivers or mechanical issues then I can only conclude you're being ignorant on purpose.
Remember Spain this year? Hamilton was half a second faster than anybody else, but Mclaren forgot to put in enough fuel and was sent to the back of the grid. The emount of fuel missing was worth something like one to two tenths in terms of pace.
After coming from the back and BEATING his team mate who started in 8th place, don't you think that he could have easily won that race? But he couldn't because of his TEAM's mess up.
Hell, you can't even get the facts about Spa right. The engineers had a vote on which wing to use, and Hamilton just had to go with it. The majority said it would be faster, or as fast as the new wing. Only it wasn't, which was what the twitter fiasco was all about.
With only one practice session, there wasn't any chance to get the right setup. The only reason Button was as fast as he was, is because as Sam Michaels had said; they took a massive guess/gamble on setup and it was good enough that they won the race.
But hey, let's let some simple facts get in the way of your biased views.




