quite! John Sergeant was a hugely respected and experienced political journalist who spent a good part of his career as the BBC's NI correspondent at the height of the Troubles and many years working as a the BBC political correspohndent at Westminster. The man interviewed Thatcher for christ's sake. The idea that he would be frightened off a dance show by someone like James is laughable in the extreme

james's still comes across as a bit of a tit though I suspect this is because Brenda's gone all nice and the producers need a new bad boy

Having watched him over many series, I think he is a nice guy who isn't good at acting.

I would expect him to be very popular with the other pros and the celebs, but I agree that he comes across badly quite often on ITT when he is trying to be 'jovial' because he isn't a good actor.

He was very good at doing some backstage reporting a few years back, and you could see his sense of humour when he danced the Rumba with Artem.

The railing against the judges scores? - well it livens things up a bit.

[quote=kittles;54956390]quite! John Sergeant was a hugely respected and experienced political journalist who spent a good part of his career as the BBC's NI correspondent at the height of the Troubles and many years working as a the BBC political correspohndent at Westminster. The man interviewed Thatcher for christ's sake. The idea that he would be frightened off a dance show by someone like James is laughable in the extreme. UNQUOTE]

John Sargeant was a hero because he interviewed Margaret Thatcher - that takes guts - he reported from The Shankhill Road - that's brave. Would he be frightened by James Jordan throwing a hissy fit - he probably laughed all the way to the bank!!

I agree with this although, if I remember correctly, Georgina didn't try to learn to dance at all


James has always been my second favourite male pro dancer and I'd love to dance with him

There was nothing horrible about the intelligent and articulate John Sergeant. Furthermore, contrary to some comments on this thread he was not under the illusion that he was a good dancer; though unlike Du Beke/Widdecombe, Kristina did choreograph routines full of recognisable steps and moves and John made no special demands regarding what he would and would not do or would or would not wear.

As I recall the first time James 'lost it' was when he and Gabby Logan were voted out in week 4 of series 5 followed by his rant about Cherie's exit a year later.

Then along came series 7 and James was at it again when he and Zoe Lucker left whilst Craig Kelly remained - but then something magical happened - he suddenly found the public acceptable.

Of course that could be because his wife, the lovely Ola, was partnering the eventual winner Chris Hollins: a nice chap who appealed to the voters but not in a month of Sundays could he be regarded as a worthy winner based on ability.

Much of Alex's fanbase no doubt comes from The One Show viewers so there's always the possibility that the Jordan/Jones partnership might take out better dancers.

I wonder if James will then plead with viewers to "vote for the dancers."

Matthew Cutler is my favourite male pro dancer of all time, my next is Artem, then Pasha (wouldn't mind a pash with Pash). I would love to dance ballroom with Anton (even though I have two left feet - he might might me look good), try and attempt the Argentine Tango with Vincent but I think the age of miracles is dead (totally beyond me). James is not as good at Latin as Matthew and cannot compete with Anton in ballroom. Would I like to dance with him - not really. Sorry Ruby-Tuesday we will have to agree to disagree. How is Jack Tuesday today?

*Round of applause for Ignazio's post*.

Would have made no difference to the outcome. Had Lisa gone instead it would have only delayed Cheri's departing by a week or two at best. She was never going to win. James would have vented his spleen a week or so later that's all. Don't blame Lisa! She didn't even win anyway

James is clearly passionate, that's evident, but he has to learn when and where is the right place to vent his frustrations. Clearly a lot of viewers were supporting John and James's outburst did him no favours whatsoever. To me it just came over as sour grapes. He's worked hard to try and improve his image since and at least now he's just about tolerable.

the point is ...SCD is a dancing & entertainment show ...it doesnt go one without the other

If it'd be just a dance competition then professional dancers would be paired with students so the judges can vote .... only that

If it were an entertainment show , then the votes from the public would be sufficient after watching them dance then the public would vote who they liked the best


As it stands, John had the right as many other celebs to be in the show. James had no right to say anything about it...if you dont like how cards are dealt dont play the game Mr Jordan,

I have a maths degree and working in finance i see plenty of things from other colleagues not being able to do even a normal VAT calculation. do i go and shout to everybody and laugh at their expense in front of other colleagues? no, i call them aside and discuss the matter.... it has nothing to do with being better or not...it is called RESPECT for other ...which james lacks


How would have him taken it if John would have said in front of everyone " well i was trying to have a conversation with James the other day but he doesnt know any politics as he even doesnt know who the Prime Minister is blah blah blah"....



James lacks RESPECT for others and it comes from him being a show off and thinking so highly about himself




I still think though he has a nice body

I agree with this statement. I don't dislike him, i think he is ok dancer and ok teacher. But playing the viallain doesn't suit him, and sometimes he tries too hard to over exaggerate his role and is annoying

He seems to change his mind every time who should stay in the competition, or depends if he or Ola are in the competition.
I don't mind if he stays in the show as long he just been himself and not tried to over acting and try to seek attention of the viewers.

His thoughts on what should happen to The Entertainment Factor depends totally on whether he or Ola are shepherding them round the floor

In amongst all the huffing about the marks, I wonder if James thinks their actual leaderboard postion was right in the end, and if not who out of Holly/Harry/Jason/Chelsee should have been below them?

Lol I actually like James but this is one area where he seriously let me down!! Fair enough if it was a dancing contest and the contestant was going to win a dance contract; but this is an entertainment show where C-list celebs get paid money to learn how to dance to entertain the viewers.

If you don't like the rules as a celeb or a pro then don't participate - easy.

I really don't think John Sergeant should ever have quit, I can't truly understand how it was allowed to happen after the viewers voted him in for so long - and I still believe there is more to the story than meets the eye.

He admitted this on ITT tonight.

I didn't mean that he is a horrible person I'm sure he is a very nice man but he was a horrible dancer.

But by no means the worst in Series 6.

James Jordan is a bad tempered bully have him for a friend dont think you would need enemies.

What are you serious? He made Chris Parker like Michael Flatley.

Would that be the Chris Parker who ran around the dance floor waving his paso cape like a child who'd raided the dressing up box and found a Batman outfit.

If I remember correctly John Sargeant never claimed to be a great dancer - he knew his limitations but couldn't believe his luck that he was dancing with Kristina. Being on Strictly is not about being the best, but being the best you can be. Chris Parker was not very good either, neither was Widdy or Georgina and Fiona Phillips was a dis-arse-ster. Russell was no twinkletoes but he really enjoyed his experience as did Widdy. All the celebrities are engaged by the BBC to do a job - some are more talented in dance than other but I think most of them thoroughly enjoy the experience. Don't think Georgina did - but then she was partnered by James!!

James a hero?

When? he has always been a self centred arrogant bully

Unlikeable and someone who tried to change his spots to gain favor with the viewers as he is so competitive. 6 years down the lines and its shown that he still overly arrogant and complete div

I actually think John was a good at ballroom - his waltz was good tbh

You do realise that it's all an act don't you? James and Brendan are meant to be the arrogant,bully pro's that argue with the judges it's part of their SCD characters it's basically gimmicks. They aren't like that in real life i've met them both and are super friendly and down to earth.

Well I like James and was glad he spoke out about JS in Series 6 because personally I think JS taking part is one of the reasons the show started going down hill. Now the producers hope for JS character every series and some people like this kind of celeb and some don't. I don't.

James certainly did not make JS drop out of the show and this particular subject has been done to death on here, with every discussion becoming very 'heated'.

I have no idea why anyone would call him a bad tempered bully, unless they are harking back to his first series on the show and there were reasons for this that were certainly not all down to James. On the Pro Tour James was lovely and clearly Ola is the boss.

James and Brendan have been messing about together since James joined the show and they are great rivals on and off the dance floor. Before James was told that he and Ola were not required for the tour, I had noticed Brendan messing about in Tess' area e.g. jumping up and down at the back. James started joining in the other week and I think he is rebelling against the tour decision and perhaps knows this is a major sign he and Ola will not be asked to do the show next year. I wouldn't put it past Brendan and James to be having a bet now every week, about doing stuff in front of the camera when Tess is doing her bit. She is probably in on it, otherwise I think she'd have created such a fuss that it wouldn't keep happening.

Personally I didn't care if Alex got a 6 or a 7 for their Charleston because it wasn't a great dance, but James obviously thinks Craig treats him and Alex differently to some of the other celebs and let's be honest a comment of 'me_dee_oker' from Craig does not normally score a 6. James made it quite clear on ITT he was not disagreeing with their position on the leaderboard, just Craig's score.

I like the fact that James speaks his mind and now Artem is piping up too. I am in no way justifying all of James' behaviour towards the judges (shouting from the balcony was out of order), but I can understand his frustration because as far as comments and scores go, the lack of consistency this year is probably the worst yet. Plus James is one of the celebs that has not broken the rules for choreographing each dance and to see pros who do getting high scores must really stick in his craw. It would mine.

Why is James being vilified for saying a much milder version of what is said on this board after every show? Where does it say in the rules books that he has to stand there and not answer back, even if the judges themselves are not sticking to the rules?

I agree the show is called Strictly come dancing not Strictly come entertaining. It's a dance show and John Sergant couldn't dance. I admit a lot of people like the John's,Anne's and Russel's but I don't I like the celeb's for their dancing nothing more. As for James he speak's his mind so what does that really make him a bad person?

You talk about breaking the rules there was an illegal lift in one of Brendan and Lulu's dances and Len the head judge couldn't care less now that was very un professional in Len's part.