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Exactly what the Producers want.
gemsmummy
29-11-2011
All the talk about Chrissy and Willie being childish, over-reacting monsters, poor Anthony getting so upset when it was'nt his fault, is purely to get who the chosen ones are into the final, how soon will they start showing Fatima in a bad light so Cotton, Wright and Poynton are the final three.

Chrissy and Willie did NOT over-react. They reacted in the same way anyone would who thought they had been stabbed in the back by friends who they have spent 24/7 with and built up a strong friendship with. At no time were they told that the 2 traitors were aware of the latter stage of the game. It shows one thing, that the likes of Chrissy, Willie and I believe Fatima, look at friendship over the gameplaying. Once all is explained, they will be fine with the situation.
Scarlett Berry
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by gemsmummy:
“All the talk about Chrissy and Willie being childish, over-reacting monsters, poor Anthony getting so upset when it was'nt his fault, is purely to get who the chosen ones are into the final, how soon will they start showing Fatima in a bad light so Cotton, Wright and Poynton are the final three.

Chrissy and Willie did NOT over-react. They reacted in the same way anyone would who thought they had been stabbed in the back by friends who they have spent 24/7 with and built up a strong friendship with. At no time were they told that the 2 traitors were aware of the latter stage of the game. It shows one thing, that the likes of Chrissy, Willie and I believe Fatima, look at friendship over the gameplaying. Once all is explained, they will be fine with the situation.”

Yeah, they did.
priscilla
29-11-2011
Mark did explain but willie was over reacting and saying they should of refused to take part in it they were angry that they got the traitors wrong
gemsmummy
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Yeah, they did.”

No they did'nt. How would you feel if you thought a friend had stabbed you in the back?
too_much_coffee
29-11-2011
I think that by the time someone tried to explain to them what had actually happened they had gone beyond the point of listening reasonably. In a pressure cooker like camp it must be very hard to feel that sort of "betrayal" from people you trust. I hope that once they have time to reflect they'll see it for what it was - a task
gemsmummy
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by priscilla:
“Mark did explain but willie was over reacting and saying they should of refused to take part in it they were angry that they got the traitors wrong”

Yes, Mark tried to explain, but both were tired, hungry and angry, also it did'nt help that Cotton siezed the opportunity to get the bed, that wound Willie up even more. This has been a blatened attempt to put Chrissy and Willie in a bad light. The editing on this programme is beyond belief, for the last few days, Cotton has been shown as a whinging, spiteful git, tonight, it was played completely in his favour and the show will keep doing this until they get who they want in the final, the public vote means nothing.
fredheid123
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by gemsmummy:
“All the talk about Chrissy and Willie being childish, over-reacting monsters, poor Anthony getting so upset when it was'nt his fault, is purely to get who the chosen ones are into the final, how soon will they start showing Fatima in a bad light so Cotton, Wright and Poynton are the final three.

Chrissy and Willie did NOT over-react. They reacted in the same way anyone would who thought they had been stabbed in the back by friends who they have spent 24/7 with and built up a strong friendship with. At no time were they told that the 2 traitors were aware of the latter stage of the game. It shows one thing, that the likes of Chrissy, Willie and I believe Fatima, look at friendship over the gameplaying. Once all is explained, they will be fine with the situation.”

I agree entirely but the young ones think they know it all.. they have not lived the life so actually they know nothing
Scarlett Berry
29-11-2011
Originally Posted by fredheid123:
“I agree entirely but the young ones think they know it all.. they have not lived the life so actually they know nothing”

Oh come on, not that old chestnut. The older folk do not have a monopoly (sic) on wisdom. I've met loads of immature oldies and Willie and Crissy's behaviour tonight certainly wasn't mature or adult like at all.
gemsmummy
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Oh come on, not that old chestnut. The older folk do not have a monopoly (sic) on wisdom. I've met loads of immature oldies and Willie and Crissy's behaviour tonight certainly wasn't mature or adult like at all.”

Chrissy and Willies behaviour tonight had nothing to do with maturity or being an adult. If you sat back and thought about it, it was about 2 people who have gone into a show and bonded with a load of other people, got to completely trust those around them, then THINK they have been stabbed in the back by 2 of the very people they trusted, how do you think they would feel? As I said, these 2 have shown that they value friendship over winning, the same can't be said for the 3 the producers have lined up to win.
ligloo
30-11-2011
As an older viewer (well 40+ ) I do think they over reacted or else got the totally wrong end of the stick. If either of them, especially Willie had been set that task, he would have gone all guns blazing to succeed at it. Remember he is a sportsman alongside Fatima and they both have that very competitive streak. If anything, tonight has shown me just how decent a person Fatima is, she supported Antony after his previous behaviour to her whilst also empathising with Willie and Crissy.
tangsman
30-11-2011
ITV want income.

Obnoxious Actor
Essex Numpty
Pretty Boy Band Member

are dead certs to be the final three so stupid young females can blow their mobile phone credit.
sammypvt
30-11-2011
Average age of the viewers is 56, average age of the phone voters is 22. Viewing figures dont pay the bills, the phone votesdo. Income generated from adverts and sponsors is pre determined, hence the manipulation of votes protecting those that generate vote interest.

Will any of the 22 yr old voters go for willie, fatima or crissy, NOT A CHANCE.

ITV have a monopoly to protect and rigging votes is the norm nowadays because there is no regulatory body responsible to control or oversee fair play. Big brother all over again.

Selective editing gets results.
ligloo
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by sammypvt:
“Average age of the viewers is 56, average age of the phone voters is 22. Viewing figures dont pay the bills, the phone votesdo. Income generated from adverts and sponsors is pre determined, hence the manipulation of votes protecting those that generate vote interest.

Will any of the 22 yr old voters go for willie, fatima or crissy, NOT A CHANCE.

ITV have a monopoly to protect and rigging votes is the norm nowadays because there is no regulatory body responsible to control or oversee fair play. Big brother all over again.

Selective editing gets results.”

Good post and agree totally
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