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what would you like to see happen next years series??
Zone_Out
30-11-2011
First of all GET RID of the sob storys, i dont mind when they have a little interview like what thier name is and what they do for a living before going on stage to audition but i dont wanna hear about there life story its boring! also this might be mean but if they mess up or forget the words id give em a straight no obviously they not ready i know its nerves and all that but they should be prepared!! BAN all comedic acts tbh they shouldnt even be allowed to audition maybe re design the studios abit its looking a bit old now! im not arsed about the judges i myself wouldnt mind them all staying i found them fun during auditions also id lower the overs age limit to 50 its obvious no one in there 70`s who audition is gonna get through! Also one final thing from me Dermot has to present the final naked! ha anythign else you would get rid of or apply??
Since Yesterday
30-11-2011
Punctuation.
pembo2004
30-11-2011
for me simon cowell must return
Pimlico_Pass
30-11-2011
Judges forced to vote - no i cant do it rubbish. They are paid to do it.
lizzey
30-11-2011
It ends this year no more please.
Laidlawjock
30-11-2011
* Scrap joke acts
*Cap the age to 60
* Seperate panel of judges and mentors. For example - Cowell, Walsh and Cole judge the main auditions and boot camp, and give critique at the live shows. Barlow, Tulisa & Sharon Osborne select acts at the "mentors home" stage, and then guide the acts through the live shows. Cuts out the "tactical critique" and I think would freshen things up.
*Cut out the "twists". Make it clear at the start of the series that the live shows will start with 16, and the public will get rid of 1 of each category in week 1, then 1 act as normal each week.
* Scrap the judges decisions on the live shows. On the Sunday, announce the bottom 2 at the start of the show, and have the sing off straight away, then open a free online/phone vote, and announce the act with the lowest votes at the end of the show.

That's me done
devlinacious
30-11-2011
Scrap the show.
kitten12
30-11-2011
1. No pre-selection, make everyone queue and audition
2. No saddos invited back just to humiliate themselves
3. No sob stories
4. No unnecessary key changes in songs
5. Ban on Adele, Whitney and Mariah covers
6. No Theme weeks - they are an utter waste of time
7. Encourage original material
8. Keep Simon Cowell away
9. Withdraw Kelly Rowland's visa
10. Ban Louis Walsh for making comparisons in his critiques (ie no "you're a little Lenny Henry")
11. Ban Louis from encouraging (insert country, region or city in here), to "get behind you and vote"

I am sure all of that will happen.............
kitten12
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by devlinacious:
“Scrap the show.”

If none of my points adhered to, then this
Heavenly
30-11-2011
it's had it's day, scrap it.
donbon
30-11-2011
I'd like to see the sob stories ditched.

One of the good things about last year was they didn't use them even though they could have. Cher and Paije both had family members die and it wasn't mentioned and they could have used the Rebecca young mum angle but they didn't.

This year unfortunately the sob stories have been non stop. The worst offender by far has been Misha who even at her first audition was in tears with her granny. But the extended VT about her estranged mother with herself and Kelly crying was a new low. If she had of just mentioned on the Xtra Factor that she had a really nice heart to heart with Kelly, I'd have thought that's nice but to do it in front of the cameras like that is so desperate for sympathy. Who talks personal stuff like that with a camera in their face?

And now we have to hear about every nasty comment the contestants read on twitter?
SillyBillyGoat
30-11-2011
Series 1-5 style auditions.
No Sunday results.
3 judges.
Snozzcumber
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by kitten12:
“1. No pre-selection, make everyone queue and audition
2. No saddos invited back just to humiliate themselves
3. No sob stories
4. No unnecessary key changes in songs
5. Ban on Adele, Whitney and Mariah covers
6. No Theme weeks - they are an utter waste of time
7. Encourage original material
8. Keep Simon Cowell away
9. Withdraw Kelly Rowland's visa
10. Ban Louis Walsh for making comparisons in his critiques (ie no "you're a little Lenny Henry")
11. Ban Louis from encouraging (insert country, region or city in here), to "get behind you and vote"

I am sure all of that will happen.............”

Hah, I agree with most of those.

I would also love an original songs week or two. If X-Factor think people wouldn't tune in for them, I think they're misguided. The novelty alone will bring people in.

I'd love to see full bands being permitted to audition, but I guess that's even less likely to happen.
ChocFestUnited
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by Heavenly:
“it's had it's day, scrap it.”

Agreed, it's got to go. No more original talent left.
spindiddly
30-11-2011
Old style auditions
Gary & Kelly out, Simon & Cheryl in.
Show more good auditionees, don't spend more than 5 minutes on any one act.
Divide the categories at bootcamp.
Original theme weeks.
No bootcamp culls or live show twists.
Opus10
30-11-2011
Judges and mentors to be seperated. - The judges are to be professionals in th music industry not performers. Go back to the format of the 1st series where the judges where Simon, Louie and Sharon

Have the finalist sing songs from up and coming song writers who are also trying to break into the music industry.
trinity28
30-11-2011
no joke acts
no sob stories
gary and kelly to go
just leave it to saturday showing with no sunday show and the bottom two should be left to the public phone vote and not left to the judges to decide
iseloid
30-11-2011
so, we should ban some of the greatest balladeers in music history to decide whether someone can sing or not?? LOL!

and singing whitney note perfect is hard, it should be seen. no, theme weeks are useful as they show versatility.

original songs bit....not everyone is a wordsmith you know. whitney never wrote songs, but no one can deny that she had one hell of a voice (before she belted )

make the acts perform, put them through their paces..i.e choreography. we're looking for the next big thing, and for now, dancing is all the rage: it'll separate the boys from the men. also, make the acts arrange their covers, as its a production technique, no?? it was fun to see misha change rolling in the deep; gave it a new twist.

when two acts from the same mentor are in the sing-off,DON'T ask their mentor to vote, it ought to be the other judges...not good for self-confidence is it? sure, it eliminates deadlock, but if one act has two votes and the other has one, then their mentor should send it to deadlock, (not really to make it fair; the public don't have the best track record of finding us the next big thing - female winners aside).

and ban joke acts, the music industry is a serious one, and it's like not getting a job over a worse candidate. it's not fair. vocals should come first - and also the drive of the contestant. (it's important for their potential career - they should also state the potential direction they would have as an artist, rock, soul, pop etc. so we know what they'll become.
Stube
30-11-2011
1. No talentless novelty acts...get ones that can actually sing.

2. No obvious favouritism in the running order (Misha I'm looking at you!) and sing-off.

3. Contestants are allowed to change their song if they wish (Louis I'm looking at you).

4. More exposure for the better auditions - not Frankie etc.

5. Less ad-breaks or more content between them at least.

6. No sing-off from the final 5 onwards.

7. A joint deal with Epic guaranteed for the winner.

8. No ridiculous twist like in week 1 - either have a final 12 or a final 16 with double eliminations in the first few weeks.

9. Standing ovations when deserved - no need for the judges to be stubborn about praising another mentor's act.

10. Give non-manufactured groups more screen-time during the auditions.

11. Don't let Simon come back to the show.

12. Bring the original producers back as well as Brian and Yvie.

I wouldn't scrap the show at all though. It has many series in it left. I think it just needs to become more of a talent show again yet still as captivating.

I wish there was a way to ensure the winner would be the one who would sell the most records.
slowdown
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by iseloid:
“so, we should ban some of the greatest balladeers in music history to decide whether someone can sing or not?? LOL! and singing whitney note perfect is hard, it should be seen. no, theme weeks are useful as they show versatility. original songs bit....not everyone is a wordsmith you know. whitney never wrote songs, but no one can deny that she had one hell of a voice (before she belted ) make the acts perform, put them through their paces..i.e choreography. we're looking for the next big thing, and for now, dancing is all the rage: it'll separate the boys from the men. also, make the acts arrange their covers, as its a production technique, no?? it was fun to see misha change rolling in the deep; gave it a new twist. when two acts from the same mentor are in the sing-off,DON'T ask their mentor to vote, it ought to be the other judges...not good for self-confidence is it? sure, it eliminates deadlock, but if one act has two votes and the other has one, then their mentor should send it to deadlock, (not really to make it fair; the public don't have the best track record of finding us the next big thing - female winners aside). and ban joke acts, the music industry is a serious one, and it's like not getting a job over a worse candidate. it's not fair. vocals should come first - and also the drive of the contestant. (it's important for their potential career - they should also state the potential direction they would have as an artist, rock, soul, pop etc. so we know what they'll become.”

Could you not re-write that in proper sentences and paragraphs? You may well have valid points to make, but when it's written/laid-out like that, no-one is really going to pay any attention.
iseloid
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by Stube:
“1. No talentless novelty acts...get ones that can actually sing.

2. No obvious favouritism in the running order (Misha I'm looking at you!) and sing-off.

3. Contestants are allowed to change their song if they wish (Louis I'm looking at you).

4. More exposure for the better auditions - not Frankie etc.

5. Less ad-breaks or more content between them at least.

6. No sing-off from the final 5 onwards.

7. A joint deal with Epic guaranteed for the winner.

8. No ridiculous twist like in week 1 - either have a final 12 or a final 16 with double eliminations in the first few weeks.

9. Standing ovations when deserved - no need for the judges to be stubborn about praising another mentor's act.

10. Give non-manufactured groups more screen-time during the auditions.

11. Don't let Simon come back to the show.

12. Bring the original producers back as well as Brian and Yvie.

I wouldn't scrap the show at all though. It has many series in it left. I think it just needs to become more of a talent show again yet still as captivating.

I wish there was a way to ensure the winner would be the one who would sell the most records.”

i don't know if it makes a difference.i remember everyone and grade them in my head. if you're crap, you ain't getting my support (of course i only vote my absolute faves, haven't voted since 2008 (the best year i believe, and the whole dream come true, for someone who could actually sing was nice to see).

but the public who vote don't think in business terms. that's the problem. it's the 'he's nice, he should win' not 'he can hold a note, but won't sell anything at all'. BIG PROBLEM.
iseloid
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by slowdown:
“Could you not re-write that in proper sentences and paragraphs? You may well have valid points to make, but when it's written/laid-out like that, no-one is really going to pay any attention.”

done.
iseloid
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by Stube:
“1. No talentless novelty acts...get ones that can actually sing.

2. No obvious favouritism in the running order (Misha I'm looking at you!) and sing-off.

3. Contestants are allowed to change their song if they wish (Louis I'm looking at you).

4. More exposure for the better auditions - not Frankie etc.

5. Less ad-breaks or more content between them at least.

6. No sing-off from the final 5 onwards.

7. A joint deal with Epic guaranteed for the winner.

8. No ridiculous twist like in week 1 - either have a final 12 or a final 16 with double eliminations in the first few weeks.

9. Standing ovations when deserved - no need for the judges to be stubborn about praising another mentor's act.

10. Give non-manufactured groups more screen-time during the auditions.

11. Don't let Simon come back to the show.

12. Bring the original producers back as well as Brian and Yvie.

I wouldn't scrap the show at all though. It has many series in it left. I think it just needs to become more of a talent show again yet still as captivating.

I wish there was a way to ensure the winner would be the one who would sell the most records.”

rare. matt was the first joint winner. syco loved to have control, but have no realised they seriously need help.
Stube
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by iseloid:
“i don't know if it makes a difference.i remember everyone and grade them in my head. if you're crap, you ain't getting my support (of course i only vote my absolute faves, haven't voted since 2008 (the best year i believe, and the whole dream come true, for someone who could actually sing was nice to see).

but the public who vote don't think in business terms. that's the problem. it's the 'he's nice, he should win' not 'he can hold a note, but won't sell anything at all'. BIG PROBLEM.”

But the general public who are "floating voters" are more likely to remember the later acts (Kitty, Misha) than the earlier ones (Janet, Johnny).
iseloid
30-11-2011
Originally Posted by Stube:
“But the general public who are "floating voters" are more likely to remember the later acts (Kitty, Misha) than the earlier ones (Janet, Johnny).”

maybe, its hard to tell sometimes. it's due to memory as opposed to favouritism. If you've got a good memory you can easily remember who was good and who wasn't. Janet got further than she should have, simply due to popularity.
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