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Thanks to Lorelei for putting all the bitchiness of some of the posters on this thread into perspective.You can be brave about pointing out a few flaws in the performance, but still accept the performance and the reason for the choir's gig on Strictly. But moving from there to personal disgust that the choir sang at all is unbelievably rude. Badly done, those people, badly done.
This choir was never booked as professional or semi-professional - so why on earth expect a professional-standard performance? Recently formed for a well-publicised reason, not with a very large programme and not singing in the supportive atmosphere of Remembrance in the Albert Hall but as a time-filler in an atmosphere of glitz and tinsel - they did very well under the horrible circumstances. How many of you know that butterflies in the stomach cramp your diaphragm, you can't breathe in properly, so you run out of breath, you lose control of pitch, etc etc etc and this would be especially true for the soloist., who should have been given a standing mike, not a heavy hand-held one. The singers would have known there would be a couple dancing out front, and probably this would have helped rather than hindered. From the TV viewer's point of view the audience were relatively well behaved, giving Flavia and Vincent some applause but nothing like the usual kindergarten caterwhauling. Sadly there were two determined whoopers. (Why has nobody yet shot the floor managers?) So, in my family with members in the military in current generation and going back 5 generations, I support the choir's efforts and performance and hope that a lot of people will be prompted to buy the single. It doesn't have to make number one, it just has to raise money for a well-deserving charity and UK audiences are good at that. In my most recent performance on stage in an amateur symphony orchestra, I and 79 other players gave it our all, and the audience demanded an encore. Why shouldn't amateurs perform in public? Sometimes what we produce is more heartfelt than the output of professionals and means more to the players. That was certainly the case with Gareth Malone's choir. I just hope he doesn't drop them after Christmas in search of his next programme -or if he does, then a new conductor should be found for them. After all, they have only just found their feet. I agree though, the floor manager should have been shot for not insisting on quiet during the performance. I dont necessarily think its the audience's fault because the whole time you are being brainwashed to applaud and whoop for anything that you like by the time it gets round to filming the results pro dances, the audience is appropriately "hypnotised" I do agree that there should have another take of it.... but there you go... there wasnt so thats an end to it. |
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The Military Wives are an amateur choir and were formed less than a year ago. Yes - the soloist was a little bit wobbly but what do you expect - Kiri Te Kanawa or Katherine Jenkins? One poster said she wouldn't marry anyone in the military - well that is her choice - these women chose to and I can't imagine what they go through when their husbands are doing their tour of duty.. They are not courting fame - they just want to sing and why not. To my knowledge they are not being paid. If people don't want to buy the CD then don't buy it or download it but I think the Wives were a damn sight better than some of the so-called "stars" who appear on Strictly and for me it was very moving and I hope that Gareth Malone stays with them as their Musical Director but somehow I think he will move but arrange for someone to take over as he did with his Community Choir.
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is it too much to hope that whiskas will post up a link to one of his/her many and varied number 1 hits so that we can extend and develop our reviewing faculties? :sleep:
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The Military Wives are an amateur choir and were formed less than a year ago. Yes - the soloist was a little bit wobbly but what do you expect - Kiri Te Kanawa or Katherine Jenkins? One poster said she wouldn't marry anyone in the military - well that is her choice - these women chose to and I can't imagine what they go through when their husbands are doing their tour of duty.. They are not courting fame - they just want to sing and why not. To my knowledge they are not being paid. If people don't want to buy the CD then don't buy it or download it but I think the Wives were a damn sight better than some of the so-called "stars" who appear on Strictly and for me it was very moving and I hope that Gareth Malone stays with them as their Musical Director but somehow I think he will move but arrange for someone to take over as he did with his Community Choir.
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It was three minutes folks. It was an emotional song sung by amateur performers who are having a moment of fame, not least because they have got off their backsides and created something. The words resonate, particularly at this time of year. If we are so satiated with entertainment that we can't devote three minutes of our oh-so-important lives to listening to something just a little bit moving, then we deserve the trash television we are given most of the time.
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Every British Government presumes to back the Armed Forces 100%.
So why are there charities to help ex Armed Forces personnel? Maybe every British Government supports the money that can be made in the armaments industry more! |
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There are some very hurtful postings on here and I think it is best that the subject of war is left out of the discussion. The choir were there as entertainers and many of us enjoyed them and some people didn't. Can we please leave it at that and not say things that will hurt people?
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But those songs don't elicit tears. And a lot of these posts seem to say that the MW song produces floods of tears. Now that's what I call.... undignified.
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is it too much to hope that whiskas will post up a link to one of his/her many and varied number 1 hits so that we can extend and develop our reviewing faculties? :sleep:
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I don't think Wiskas has anything to prove. She didn't ask for validation, she merely stated her opinion and only stated her credentials when someone challenged her knowledge of the music industry.
that aside, no-one challenged her, she started producing her 'credentials' in an attempt to imply her opinion had more weight than that of others. and, in my opinion, if you do that, you need to put your money where your mouth is. otherwise we'd have any old idiots pretending to be experts on all sorts. its virtually what the internet was invented for.
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well, there's no evidence her 'credentials' actually exist. and by her own admission, her claimed credentials don't extend to the genre anyway.
that aside, no-one challenged her, she started producing her 'credentials' in an attempt to imply her opinion had more weight than that of others. and, in my opinion, if you do that, you need to put your money where your mouth is. otherwise we'd have any old idiots pretending to be experts on all sorts. its virtually what the internet was invented for. ![]() I stand by my point that Wiskas didn't flaunt her credentials, and only revealed her base of knowledge, experience and work when pushed. As she has made a living out of it, I would guess she is at least a competant singer and probably much more than that. Finally, I think your direction of opinion on this thread is detracting from the meaning of the discussion. Consequently I stand by this post but will not be replying to any further personal attacks on Wiskas from you. Please feel free to have the final say.
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I've looked back on this thread and it appears to me that Wiskas stated her opinion and then you took her.
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As she has made a living out of it, I would guess she is at least a competant singer and probably much more than that.
yes, much more. several number 1s in fact. but like i said, there's absolutely no evidence to back up that claim. Quote:
Finally, I think your direction of opinion on this thread is detracting from the meaning of the discussion.
if people on the thread start saying they've had number 1 hits, in the context of criticising the likely next number 1 hit, its hardly surpising people might be interested in such a claim. its not exactly wildly off topic.
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I think it is best that the subject of war is left out of the discussion.
If some members didn't like the performance on Sunday night then they should be able to say so without getting a backlash from certain members.Those members know who they are. |
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100% agree with this.This thread is about the Military Wives singing on Strictly.It's not about the rights & wrong of war.If any members want to talk about the war then they should start a thread over at the GD forum.
If some members didn't like the performance on Sunday night then they should be able to say so without getting a backlash from certain members.Those members know who they are. I will say this - as I suspect your last bit is aimed at me but that is cool - the choir aren't professional, so for that reason alone, they did very well. Let's avoid any unnecessary nastiness though ay...![]() Gareth and the ladies have something to feel proud of. They have my full support. Gareth is ace, the song very moving and powerful. |
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Would just like to mention that I saw the MWs perform on the One Show about a week before Strictly, and their performance was really beautiful, and did move me to tears, but I am a bit soppy like that!
I agree they weren't fully on it for Strictly, but to be honest I was more distracted by Vincent and Flavia's dance. They made a ballroom showdance as sharp, frantic and Argentine Tango-y as they possibly could, and it really didn't suit the song for me. I was disappointed, as I normally love their dances, but not this time. |
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The cause was very worthy, the delivery of the song was poor.
The main object was surely to promote the record, as it is with any guests on this show? Everything else is incidental. Nuff said, (again). |
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100% agree with this.This thread is about the Military Wives singing on Strictly.It's not about the rights & wrong of war.If any members want to talk about the war then they should start a thread over at the GD forum.
If some members didn't like the performance on Sunday night then they should be able to say so without getting a backlash from certain members.Those members know who they are. |
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Er - where is my last post appealling for peace?
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but that is cool - the choir aren't professional, so for that reason alone, they did very well. Let's avoid any unnecessary nastiness though ay...