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Old 02-12-2011, 11:40
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I heard on Twitter that Watchmen 2 is to be made, I understand it will be a prequel.
Does anyone know if Alan Moore is writing a Watchmen 2 or is Hollywood ripping him off yet again?
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Old 02-12-2011, 13:16
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What do you think?

Hollywood never ripped him off (any more than any other writer - and wasn't he the one refusing any form of compensation?) They make movies. He writes comics. He expects the movies to be exact copies of the comic scripts but that's not how it works.
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Old 02-12-2011, 15:02
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He expects the movies to be exact copies of the comic scripts but that's not how it works.
Not quite. He writes comics and stages things in ways that he knows won't translate directly to the big screen. He accepts that it's a different medium, he's not daft.
He knows the films will be different from what he writes but disagrees with the studios using his name to hype things so much and has repeatedly tried to show that the films use much more of the artists concepts/input/view of things than his own.

It's not so much Hollywood ripping him off, either. He wrote the books for DC whilst under contract so they own the story and characters and can, in theory, do what they want with them. He was paid for the job he did for DC at the time. I know Dave Gibbons got some money from the Watchmen film as they used his visual concepts, not sure what Moore got, if anything... They might've offered him something and he rejected it - I heard he'd refused to have his name attached to it.
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Old 02-12-2011, 15:20
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If DC go ahead with Watchmen 2 then you'll never hear the end of it from Moore. He'll rant on until doomsday.

I think it should be left alone. Alan Moore co-created Watchmen, if he wants to do a sequel then DC should offer him a fair deal such as a degree of ownership, but if he's not interested DC should leave it alone. Alan Moore will be very upset if other writers are hired to work on Watchmen 2. He doesn't deserve that.
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Old 02-12-2011, 15:39
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Just who is the target audience for this if it goes ahead??

The original comic was rightly lauded, but the movie was in development hell for years..
It finally gets made, and the fans are split on whether it was good or bad, and it didn't do brilliantly at the box office.

I would have said the majority of the audience for the first film was diehards and curious casual comic readers.

Can't see any of those watching a prequel
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Old 02-12-2011, 15:40
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I think it's a comic sequel not a film sequel. Could be a comic prequel set before Watchmen?

I doubt there will be a Watchmen 2 film without a comic version first. Just a guess, of course.

Watchmen was probably my favourite film of 2009.
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Old 02-12-2011, 16:56
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Oh God no.. don't do it. It'd be like releasing a sequel to the Bible or something.

Sometimes, things are just intended as a standalone piece of art to be appreciated on its own confined merits.

Watchmen 2 will either try to emulate Moore without being Moore, and so fail, or it'll go the opposite direction and be more action-based, and so fail, or they'll make it super-dark in that stylistic way that 'dark' stories are made, completely missing the point, and so it'll fail.
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Old 02-12-2011, 17:35
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I agree


Fail all round
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Old 02-12-2011, 20:40
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There are a few writers who have worked with Moore or are close to Moore who could POSSIBLY do a decent job of it but those people are the ones who wouldn't touch it with a bargepole...
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Old 04-12-2011, 09:51
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What do you think?

Hollywood never ripped him off (any more than any other writer - and wasn't he the one refusing any form of compensation?) They make movies. He writes comics. He expects the movies to be exact copies of the comic scripts but that's not how it works.
I don't think that's how he feels about the films at all. If his Chain Reaction on Radio 4 ever gets a repeat, it's well worth a listen - he's actually really funny talking about this stuff.

His complete break with films came over two main things, I think.

One was a press conference for V for Vendetta where the producer said Alan Moore had given his blessing to the project - and the only time they had talked about it was decades before. DC refused to put out a statement correcting it, and so Moore was done with them.

The other was the court case regarding League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - the plaintiffs' claim included an argument that the original comic was written to order to disguise the theft of a film script. When the case settled, Moore felt that accusation hadn't been refuted.

And of course the other part of it is that, from all appearances, the film version of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen *did* plagiarise the other film script. IIRC, pretty much all the stuff that was in the film but not the comic (e.g. Tom Sawyer) was in the other script. All of that left him wanting nothing to do with the film industry.

All the money he's due for these projects goes to the artists, apparently, so I doubt they're too unhappy..!
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