[lambcheck]

I was wondering, I recently purchased a Panasonic Bluray Player which has connection to the internet. Could I use a Sky wireless router to connect. I already have one connected for Anytime+ and could I use the same modem for both. Any help would be grateful.

[Chasing Shadows]

My two Blu Ray players, my Sky box and my PC are all connected to the internet via my Sky router (along with my wifi phone and my girlfriend's wireless laptop). Don't see why yours should be any different.

[chrisjr]

Is there a spare ethernet port on the back of the router?
Do you have a long enough cable to go from player to router?

If the answer to both is YES then just plug them together and get on with it. There is nothing special about a Sky router that is going to stop you.

[lambcheck]

Yes there is a spare connection on the back of the router chrisjr but I would have to run the ethernet cable across the room to wake it work so no good. I do need a wireless router.

[lambcheck]

So I would have to purchase another Sky router for £60 to make it work. Bit expensive but no choice.

[chrisjr]

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Originally Posted by lambcheck

Yes there is a spare connection on the back of the router chrisjr but I would have to run the ethernet cable across the room to wake it work so no good. I do need a wireless router.

Ethernet works up to 100 metres with absolutely no problems. I have my Blu-Ray player connected to my router on the opposite side of the room by a 10m cable run round the skirting.

So you don't always need wireless.

[grahamlthompson]

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Originally Posted by lambcheck

So I would have to purchase another Sky router for £60 to make it work. Bit expensive but no choice.

Wireless Bridge

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...NHDYD8B685SDET

Assuming a sky router has wifi built in

[c4rv]

Or use powerline adaptors

http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-P...2835679&sr=1-1

[Chasing Shadows]

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Originally Posted by lambcheck

Yes there is a spare connection on the back of the router chrisjr but I would have to run the ethernet cable across the room to wake it work so no good.

Why is it no good? Your Blu Ray player doesn't need to be permanently connected to the internet - just connect it when it needs to download an upgrade, then disconnect it.

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Originally Posted by lambcheck

I do need a wireless router.

You have a wireless router. You said so in your first post.

[lambcheck]

Sorted it. As I have a Sky wireless router I ordered a ethernet splitter off Amazon for £3.45. Now it means I can have anytime+ and my bluray player connected into the one router

[chrisjr]

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Originally Posted by lambcheck

Sorted it. As I have a Sky wireless router I ordered a ethernet splitter off Amazon for £3.45. Now it means I can have anytime+ and my bluray player connected into the one router

If it is a simple parallel wired splitter then it may not work as you want it to. You cannot run two ethernet devices off a single ethernet port at the same time. You can use a splitter, but ONLY if you use one device at a time, the other MUST be turned off.

There is another form of "splitter" which is actually a port doubler. You use them in pairs at either end of a single ethernet cable. At the router you plug two leads from two ports to the two input sockets on the doubler. Then at the other end you have another doubler which separates out the two connections allowing you to use two devices at the same time.

They work because 100Mb ethernet uses only two of the four pairs of wires in the cable. So the doubler simply connects one input to the unused pairs. Note it only works for a wired connection. You cannot use it to connect two devices to a wireless access point.

A simple parallel splitter however connects both devices to the same two pairs of wires. Which will cause problems if you try to run both at the same time.

[lambcheck]

Well the ethernet splitter arrived and I connected the cable from the sky box and the cable from the bluray player into the splitter and then into the sky router. Neither worked. Could not get anytime+ or connection for the bluray player. I give up.

[Chasing Shadows]

What exactly did you expect the splitter to achieve?

Your Sky router has four network inputs on it - so unless you are already using three of them connected to network computers before you take either your Sky box or your Blu Ray player into account, you don't need a splitter of any kind.

Assuming you have at least one RJ45 input on the router spare, connect your Sky box ethernet point to one of the spare inputs on your router using a network cable, go into network setup on the Sky box and ensure that it recognises the router connection and assigns an IP address of 192.168.0.XXX to your Sky box - once it has done that, it will enable Anytime+.

If you have a second spare port on the router, you can also run an ethernet cable from the BluRay player to this port, configure your BDP to either autonegotiate with the router so that it is again assigned a unique IP address beginning 192.168.0, and then your BDP will talk to the internet. If it cannot automatically talk to the router, ensure you tell your BDP that its gatteway is 192.168.0.1 with subnet of 255.255.255.0 and that will force it to talk to the router, and therefore the internet, correctly.

[captainkremmen]

I think you are getting yourself confused.

You said your router had a spare ethernet port. So what made you think that you needed an ethernet splitter?. All you needed was some way of connecting the ethernet port on the back of the bluray player to the spare port on the router. You have been told three methods of doing this:

1. Direct cable connection. Buy an ethernet cable of suitable length to connect between your router and the bluray player.
2. Powerline adapters. If you don't want to run cables around your room consider these. Plug one into an electrical socket near your router and another in a socket near your bluray player. Run an ethernet cable from the first into your router, and then an ethernet cable from the second into your bluray player. Your household wiring is used to route the signal between the two adapters.
3. Wireless bridge. These devices plug into your bluray player using an ethernet cable, but they then take that signal and turn into a wireless one that your router can pick up.

There is also another possible method. Some bluray players are compatible with some USB wifi adapters. What's your make and model of bluray player?

[chrisjr]

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Originally Posted by lambcheck

Well the ethernet splitter arrived and I connected the cable from the sky box and the cable from the bluray player into the splitter and then into the sky router. Neither worked. Could not get anytime+ or connection for the bluray player. I give up.

Well I hate to say "told you so"

You have already said there is a spare connection on the back of the router so why did you not use that for the Blu-Ray?

If you had to run a cable from Blu-Ray to the router to connect the splitter then why bother with the splitter if there is a spare port on the router? Makes no sense to me.

[grahamlthompson]

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Originally Posted by lambcheck

Well the ethernet splitter arrived and I connected the cable from the sky box and the cable from the bluray player into the splitter and then into the sky router. Neither worked. Could not get anytime+ or connection for the bluray player. I give up.

The gismo you need is a network switch

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8-Port-10-...item5ae3c5e307

I connect my laptop, a PS3 a Sony BD player, Denon AV amplifier and a Humax HD FOX T2 over a single cable. No problem in using any or all in any combination.

[lambcheck]

I cannot connect the bluray player to the sky modem as it involes running a ethernet cable across the room. I thought connecting the bluray player to the the sky wireless router would work but as in my prevoius post neither anytime+ or the bluray would connect to the internet. I will consider the plug in power way to connect.

[Chasing Shadows]

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Originally Posted by lambcheck

I cannot connect the bluray player to the sky modem as it involes running a ethernet cable across the room. I thought connecting the bluray player to the the sky wireless router would work but as in my prevoius post neither anytime+ or the bluray would connect to the internet. I will consider the plug in power way to connect.

The Sky modem is the Sky wireless router, as you have been told several times. And, as you have also been told several times, you don't need to have your Blu Ray permanently connected to it via a cable running across the living room floor - only when you actually need to connect your Blu Ray player to the internet to download any updates available for your player. Once the update has been downloaded, you simply disconnect the cable - from either the router end or the BDP end - and put it away until the next time you want to connect it to the internet.

[chrisjr]

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Originally Posted by lambcheck

I cannot connect the bluray player to the sky modem as it involes running a ethernet cable across the room. I thought connecting the bluray player to the the sky wireless router would work but as in my prevoius post neither anytime+ or the bluray would connect to the internet. I will consider the plug in power way to connect.

Hang on a minute.

What exactly is this wireless router thing you are trying to connect to?

Do you actually mean a wireless router or a wireless access point? Normally you would have a router plugged into the phone line. It is rare these days to have just a modem.

So what exactly is plugged into the phone line? Your previous post implied whatever it is has at least one spare ethernet port on the back which implies it is a router, and quite possibly wireless.

I also think that you have a separate wireless device that you are using for the Anytime service. If that is so then that is NOT a router. It is a wireless access point of some description and in all likelihood only permits a single ethernet connection. Hence why you thought a splitter would work.

So three options.

Put in a direct link from Blu-Ray to router, either cable or some form of PowerLine adapter that use the mains wiring.

Buy a second wireless adapter/access point similar to the one you are using for the Anytime service.

Buy a simple network switch, looks a bit like a router but without some of the clever bits a router has nor the modem. This will let you share the wireless point with more than one device. Unless you can find a suitable wireless point with switch built in to save on the number of boxes needed.

[grahamlthompson]

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Originally Posted by Chasing Shadows

The Sky modem is the Sky wireless router, as you have been told several times. And, as you have also been told several times, you don't need to have your Blu Ray permanently connected to it via a cable running across the living room floor - only when you actually need to connect your Blu Ray player to the internet to download any updates available for your player. Once the update has been downloaded, you simply disconnect the cable - from either the router end or the BDP end - and put it away until the next time you want to connect it to the internet.

Indeed

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1M-5M-10M-...item870da3c45f

[Dan the Van]

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So I would have to purchase another Sky router for £60 to make it work. Bit expensive but no choice.

Are you all sure you are not talking about a Sky Wireless Connector?

Dan.

[chrisjr]

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Originally Posted by Dan the Van

Are you all sure you are not talking about a Sky Wireless Connector?

Dan.

That's what I was trying to work out, see post above.

I reckon lambcheck has a wireless router plugged into the phone line and is calling that the modem. And a Wireless access point or similar device that is used for Anytime and it's that that is being called the router.

A basic confusion of terminology that needs to be clarified.

[bobcar]

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Originally Posted by grahamlthompson

Indeed

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1M-5M-10M-...item870da3c45f

Interestingly the 20m cable is more expensive than the 30m one.

[lambcheck]

I always thought it was called a modem Sorry. It runs my Sky Broadband and underneath the tv is the wireless connection which I purchased from Sky to connect to anytime+. This picks up the connection wirelessly from the thing I called a modem. I think that is right.

[chrisjr]

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Originally Posted by lambcheck

I always thought it was called a modem Sorry. It runs my Sky Broadband and underneath the tv is the wireless connection which I purchased from Sky to connect to anytime+. This picks up the connection wirelessly from the thing I called a modem. I think that is right.

Right so what you are calling the Modem is the router (though technically it's a modem, router and switch all in one box ) and what you are calling the wireless router is actually a wireless adapter of some sort.

The wireless adapter you are using for Anytime only allows a single connection so cannot by itself be used to connect the Blu-Ray as well.

So short of plugging from one to another the easiest way to solve the problem may be a simple network switch. Such as..

http://netgear.co.uk/home/products/w...hes/FS605.aspx

You plug that into the wireless adapter then up to four other devices into it which can then share the connection. If it all works should be simple plug and play.

Or you could use something like this to replace the wireless adapter..

http://netgear.co.uk/home/products/w...nts/WN604.aspx

This can connect up to four devices so would do the job of your existing wireless adapter and a separate switch.

Alternatively you could just do what I did. Spend a couple of quid on a 10m or longer lead and run it round the edge of the room. Not so neat as wireless but a shed load cheaper!