Originally Posted by ItsTimmyTime:
“I get the feeling this was started as an anti-Gaga thread, and I don't condone anti-anyone threads, but Lady Gaga is rife for criticism.
I will agree that she should in no way be treated as some second coming of pop, because, the OP actually has a point: Gaga dumbed herself down in order to make it into the music Industry. Not intellectually, but physically and musically.
Gaga was signed by AKON! AKON FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! Her debut was great! She made fun pop music and had an air of eccentricity around her and she carried herself like a perfectly formed popstar.
But...
When you examine her pre-The Fame and post-The Fame Monster, that is not the Gaga who captured everyones hearts really. To me, personally they are two completely different people.
Pre-The Fame she was 21/22 and if she did not want to make Jazzy, Piano music she would not have been in that music sector. Don't quote me on this because i cannot remember where from, but I distinctly remember wither Akon or Gaga in an early interview saying that when he signed her he suggested she went for a pop-dance-R'n'B sound, and for her to find a unique fashion style... birthing the "The Fame" Gaga.
That all worked great and she exploded onto the scene... The Fame and TF Monster were HUGE! But then...
Cue Born This Way. Yes some of the music is still dance-pop... but instead of having an air of fun and eccentricity she just developed this aire of superiority and became too serious. Her music and her message do not connect well for me. She wants to be taken seriously as an artist (The artist that she intended to be pre-The Fame) but the music which brought her success and adoration isn't her preferred music type. It is clear that shes trying to bring her past self into the spotlight now that she has the platform. "Marry the Night", "You and I", and "The Edge of Glory" are based on her past or influenced by Jazz. Even the MTN video shows us who she was (and ultimately is). She never strikes me as happy either, almost as though she feels like she needs to put on an act.
So... that is my opinion. Merely an opinion. I've given evidence for my opinion, and my own thoughts arn't going to change so any Stans that try and discredit that won't really work. That isn't to say that I won't take on board other opinions, but right now I can sense a little bit of Gaga-fan backlash.
I stated at the top of the post that I don't like anti-anyone threads, and I do actually like Gaga... but more "The Fame" Gaga than "Born This Way" Gaga.”
That was actually an intresting read, I'am kind of the opposite to that I really didn’t care for the Fame era songs Poker Face, Just Dance ect just didn’t interest me. I never really paid any attention to her again till Judas which I really liked and I thought I’d give her new album a chance, and I really like it.
Only her hard core Stans thing she is the second coming many people just enjoy her songs because they like them.
I can see what you mean by changing styles may have turned some fans away but it probably got her some new fans as well.
I agree that I don’t think she really wants to do pop forever and I think eventually she’ll go down the Jazz route because that’s clearly what she enjoys.