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A warning to cat owners
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TUTV Viewer
08-12-2011
There was a "cat lady" who lived round the corner from me in Oxford. She lost 2 cats due to anti-freeze poisoning.

She made every persons life nearby hell in her quest for vengeance, even calling the police when she spotted "poison" being sprayed from other neighours cars (condensation from the air con systems).

After the posters, the accusations, the notes through the door...

You'd never guess whose car had a slow-drip leak from her coolant system...

She moved away soon after that.
howardl
08-12-2011
Originally Posted by TUTV Viewer:
“There was a "cat lady" who lived round the corner from me in Oxford. She lost 2 cats due to anti-freeze poisoning.

She made every persons life nearby hell in her quest for vengeance, even calling the police when she spotted "poison" being sprayed from other neighours cars (condensation from the air con systems).

After the posters, the accusations, the notes through the door...

You'd never guess whose car had a slow-drip leak from her coolant system...

She moved away soon after that.”

Where abouts in Oxford ?
fefster
08-12-2011
My cats are outdoor and don't seem to bother anyone. I wouldnt keep a cat indoors as I feel it is cruel.
ruffles
09-12-2011
Let the rain wash the poops away in the garden and have a smoke and a beer.
TxBelle
09-12-2011
thanks for the warning, I did not know this. Id be devastated if I lost my little Belle.
Pippa 2
09-12-2011
Some of the sanctimonious ppl on here make me want to vom. I'm a cat lover and it pees me off when idiots moan and whinge abt cats pooing and peeing in their gardens/flowerbeds. Fgs, get a grip. There are far more important things to whine on abt like the number of cats/dogs that are left in boxes outside RSPCA centres just coz ppl CLAIM they can't afford to keep them.

These same ppl are often those that have the latest mobile/ I-pod or whatever. Yeah, real important. Give me 5 mins in a room with these ppl.
Bananacreampie
09-12-2011
Originally Posted by Pippa 2:
“Some of the sanctimonious ppl on here make me want to vom. I'm a cat lover and it pees me off when idiots moan and whinge abt cats pooing and peeing in their gardens/flowerbeds. Fgs, get a grip. There are far more important things to whine on abt like the number of cats/dogs that are left in boxes outside RSPCA centres just coz ppl CLAIM they can't afford to keep them.

These same ppl are often those that have the latest mobile/ I-pod or whatever. Yeah, real important. Give me 5 mins in a room with these ppl.”

Calm down. Who are you to tell people to get a grip when you come in all guns blazing



I have always had cats but still understand why others dont want them in their gardens, people have a right to let their children play without fear that they are going to get cat shite on their hands and maybe put their hands in their mouths!

Plants are also very expensive maybe if people with cats put money into a pot every year for people who don't have cats to buy new plants with then their cats can go dig them up to their little hearts content.
Pippa 2
09-12-2011
Originally Posted by Bananacreampie:
“Calm down. Who are you to tell people to get a grip when you come in all guns blazing



I have always had cats but still understand why others dont want them in their gardens, people have a right to let their children play without fear that they are going to get cat shite on their hands and maybe put their hands in their mouths!

Plants are also very expensive maybe if people with cats put money into a pot every year for people who don't have cats to buy new plants with then their cats can go dig them up to their little hearts content.”

I've never seen such a ridiculous post as this. You're probably a WUM. Call yourself a cat lover? Silly person.
Bananacreampie
09-12-2011
Originally Posted by Pippa 2:
“I've never seen such a ridiculous post as this. You're probably a WUM. Call yourself a cat lover? Silly person.”


I think yours was sillier


Your cat your problem. If someone takes their frustration out on your cat then that's your fault as well as theirs.
Miss Cheef
09-12-2011
You don't have to like cats (or any other pet), there's no law against it but to want to harm or kill one is a step too far.

I've heard of people who deliberately put out anti freeze to kill cats because they like the sweet taste. It then eats away at their stomachs and they suffer a very slow and painful death. It would be like us drinking bleach and not getting treatment for it. Anyone who can condone that because of a bit of shit in their garden (boo friggin hoo) is a very sick individual.

Sorry for the rant but some of the comments on here a bang out of order Yes I do have 2 lovely kittys and thankfully my neighbours, who have fab gardens, love them to visit
abarthman
09-12-2011
Originally Posted by MarellaK:
“Cats are legally allowed to roam so have the law on their side and anyone found guilty of deliberately killing a cat would be held to account.”

And there's your problem - finding someone guilty. I imagine that it would be very easy for some frustrated garden-lover to leave a leaky bottle of antifreeze in some corner of their garden. Even if it was discovered, it can be easily explained away as carelessness.
Originally Posted by MarellaK:
“Lots of things that neighbours do annoy me such as loud music and screaming kids and balls coming into my garden etc. Why, therefore, should they complain about the odd cat that ventures into their gardens ”

Because two wrongs make a right? What about good neighbours who don't play loud music, don't have kids or have quiet, well behaved kids?
Originally Posted by MarellaK:
“I also cannot stop other wildlife coming into my garden such as squirrels, hedgehogs, perhaps even foxes - it's all part of nature and it's not just cats that poo in gardens, I can assure you. The winds and storms wreak havoc on my garden and every year I need to spend money getting fences fixed, cleaning the patio and repainting.”

People can hardly expect their neighbours to take responsibility for the local wildlife or the weather! And I don't think I've ever heard anyone complain about hedgehogs, squirrels or foxes!
Originally Posted by MarellaK:
“Keeping a garden demands a bit of maintenance, time and money anyway ...”

I imagine it does, and I imagine that the mess made and left by roaming cats must make it sightly more demanding and unpleasant.
Originally Posted by MarellaK:
“ ... and it really doesn't cost that much to install some cat repellants if you were so concerned about a bit of cat poo ”

I've covered that already. Why should anyone have to incur any additional expense when cat-owners could just keep their pets indoors? And I gather that cat faeces is very unpleasant.
Originally Posted by MarellaK:
“My responsibility is to my cats, as their owner, and not to my neighbours.”

Is that attitude common amongst cat-owners who allow their cats to roam? It seems very odd and somewhat anti-social not to feel any sense of responsibility towards your neighbours.

Do you expect your neighbours to show some responsibility towards the local roaming cats by quickly clearing up any "accidentally spilled" anti-freeze?
SCDchick
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by jra:
“Exactly. Your pet cat shouldn't have to die in this way, when it could easily be avoided.”

Yes it could have been avoided if the cat owner had kept theyre cat inside. You cant let youre cat out and then moan and point the finger at others when something happens to it, its your cat, you take the risk
SCDchick
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Pippa 2:
“Some of the sanctimonious ppl on here make me want to vom. I'm a cat lover and it pees me off when idiots moan and whinge abt cats pooing and peeing in their gardens/flowerbeds. Fgs, get a grip. There are far more important things to whine on abt like the number of cats/dogs that are left in boxes outside RSPCA centres just coz ppl CLAIM they can't afford to keep them.

These same ppl are often those that have the latest mobile/ I-pod or whatever. Yeah, real important. Give me 5 mins in a room with these ppl.”

Yes because you love cats you expect everyone to tolerate them? And people are `idiots` if they dont tolerate your cats crapping and peeing on theyre gardens? which are, part of theyre homes. Not to mention the wild life which get decimated by pet cats. And the cats left out in boxes outside the RSPCA, where do you think they come from?? Irresponsible, uncaring owners! Its all a repetitve circle, and will carry on happening unless cat owners are forced to take some sort of responsiblity for the `pets` they own. Yes, pets.

The hypocrisy of your post really annoys me. And yes,the selfish inconsiderate attitude of cat lovers like you is what annoys people.
SCDchick
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by miss_zelda:
“Anti freeze does worry me as my cat loves the outdoors. Luckily one of our next door neighbours is too posh to spill anything without cleaning it up and the other next door neighbours have had cats of their own and realise the danger. We are having new houses built near us soon though so I hope the cat doesn't explore too far in their direction once they're built. Fortunately I doubt she will as she seems to like staying fairly close to home and just sleeps in the bushes in the garden.

I know it can be frustrating when cats foul in your garden but it's so easy to deter them (scare them off when you see them, put down anti fouling lemon scented pellets, buy a cat scarer...)”

It is not easy to deter them, most of the deterrents dont work and people get rightfully fed up of having to deter someone elses pet from theyre garden, because of the actions of an inconsiderate neighbour who do not care about the people who live around them.
SCDchick
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by jra:
“Cats should be allowed to roam free. It's in their nature. Just like you and me wouldn't like to be confined permanently indoors.”

Of course, its in all animals nature to roam, but most pets have to be kept under control. Dont use the `cats need to roam` excuse which has been done to death. The reason you let your cat out to roam is because it is easy and you dont have to care what it is up to while you are at work.
SCDchick
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by MarellaK:
“Cats are legally allowed to roam so have the law on their side and anyone found guilty of deliberately killing a cat would be held to account. Lots of things that neighbours do annoy me such as loud music and screaming kids and balls coming into my garden etc. Why, therefore, should they complain about the odd cat that ventures into their gardens I also cannot stop other wildlife coming into my garden such as squirrels, hedgehogs, perhaps even foxes - it's all part of nature and it's not just cats that poo in gardens, I can assure you. The winds and storms wreak havoc on my garden and every year I need to spend money getting fences fixed, cleaning the patio and repainting. Keeping a garden demands a bit of maintenance, time and money anyway - and it really doesn't cost that much to install some cat repellants if you were so concerned about a bit of cat poo

My responsibility is to my cats, as their owner, and not to my neighbours. I need to ensure I keep my cats happy and healthy and, as 2 of my cats are rescue cats, part of the deal in adopting them from Cats Protection was to allow them outside access. Most rescues will not rehome cats to indoor homes unless there are good reasons (and neighbours aren't a good reason)

I try to get on with my neighbours despite troublesome noisy kids but I have no qualms about allowing my cats outside. I have no intention of confining my cats to a cat run or pen, I bought my current house with my late Tabitha in mind. There is no through traffic and my garden backs onto other gardens so I considered it a safe outside environment.”

You cant hide behind the law forever. Many cat owners love being above the law, knowingly allowing theyre cats to foul in peoples gardens and kill wild life, and then smugly tell people there are more important things in life, when people complain and get annoyed about it. And the people who dont own cats have to suffer and put up with the nuisances. Yep blame it on everything else, loud music, screaming kids, hey, even the wind! Its really lame to try and blame the problem on everything else. cats are not wild life, they are domestic pets. bred by man, for mans purposes. Squirrels, hedgehogs, foxes etc are part of nature! They are wildlife. Not cats who are someones pet and would not be there if it wasnt for a human introuducing them.

Yeah, always up to someone else, should people really have to spend theyre money to deter someone elses pet? Maybe the solution would be to have a little bit of consideration for others?

The cats protection league obviously dont care about wildlife or anyone else. otherwise they wouldent insist all cats be outdoors.. And the fact they say neighbours are not a good reason to keep cats indoors, proves they dont care about anything but themselves, which doesnt suprise me that many cat owners carry this attitude through. Funny how many responsible and caring owners dont let theyre cats outside..

You bought your current house with your cat in mind, because there are no traffic and your garden backs onto other gardens. It says it all. What about the wild life?? Whos habitat belongs outside. And what about your neighbours and the environment? You said you dont have any intention to confine your cats to a cat pen, which honestly comes across as very inconsiderate and selfish minded. Which is a shame, because there are some good owners out there. Theres no harm in keeping your cat inside at night at least and at certain times for e.g at dawn when birds are feeding, and providing a litter tray, even outside. It would be a start. It would be more difficult to keep cats in that have been outdoors theyre whole life, i understand that, but it CAN be done, and cats CAN be trained. Just doing those little things would be a start, surely?
ciaociao
10-12-2011
I am actually sickened at the attitude of some posters to outdoor cats. Even if you dislike the cats and their behaviour, it isn't down to them that they exist and use your garden as a toilet, it's down to your neighbours! Anyone that would see fit to harm a defenceless animal is a disgrace.

I'm glad my cat is a housecat after reading some of these comments.

Second of all, what are the common usages of anti-freeze? It might sound silly, but I don't have a car (or any experience with having a car) and wanted to check that my cat isn't likely to come into contact with this chemical.
ruffles
10-12-2011
newcastlefan84
10-12-2011
My two cats are indoors but thank you for letting us know. It saddens me when any pet of any description dies but to antifreeze. It is a worry with the cold weather that it is likely to be on cars and with cats outside.
Pepperoni Man
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by abarthman:
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I don't have a garden, so cats don't really bother me, but I can I can understand why some people would get so frustrated with them that they would lay down poison.”

That's nice
outside
10-12-2011
I think that anyone who believes it's perfectly justifiable to kill animals because a patch of earth has been disturbed needs serious psychiatric help.

Also, the ridiculous notion that cats are solely responsible for any and all damage to Britain's beautiful gardens is laughable. The poster who seems to believe that wildlife "are part of nature" but cats are criminal masterminds intent on ripping up every shrub at the behest of their irresponsible owners needs a serious reality check.
ruffles
10-12-2011
On springwatch or autumnwatch they showed scottish wildcat .
abarthman
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Pepperoni Man:
“That's nice”

What 's nice? That I don't have a garden or that I can understand why some people lay down poison?

Don't be shy. Express yourself fully.
ruffles
10-12-2011
I dont think its a cat at all . I think its a rogue human going around doing these terrifying monster garden poops . The scoundrel .
SCDchick
11-12-2011
Originally Posted by outside:
“I think that anyone who believes it's perfectly justifiable to kill animals because a patch of earth has been disturbed needs serious psychiatric help.

Also, the ridiculous notion that cats are solely responsible for any and all damage to Britain's beautiful gardens is laughable. The poster who seems to believe that wildlife "are part of nature" but cats are criminal masterminds intent on ripping up every shrub at the behest of their irresponsible owners needs a serious reality check.”

Which poster are you talking about?

Of course wildlife ARE part of nature, people learnt that in nursery

Its not the fault of the cat, the fault lies with the owner. If you let a cat out to do what it wants and crap on peoples gardens, then it is very inconsiderate and also careless, as if anything happens to your cat then it is your fault
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