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A warning to cat owners
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MiniDoctorFreak
12-12-2011
While I think that anyone who would try to poison a cat (or any other animal) is a complete sicko, I can understand why people get annoyed with free roaming cats (don't understand why anyone would want to harm one though), We ended up with a cat in our house a couple of years back (assume it got in through a window), poor thing must've been terrified (we have 2 dogs, complete softies but you never know with animals). My dad was in terrible shape after as well (allergic to cats), his eyes were all swollen and he was struggling to breathe until the medication kicked in, so I can understand the problems people have with free roaming cats. I'm not sure how to prevent them getting at anti freeze from our cars any more than we already do, some of it is bound to drip off the window screens
Ella Nut
14-12-2011
Originally Posted by abarthman:
“Why should people have to go to such bother and expense? They didn't buy the cat. Surely it is up to the cat-owner to keep their pet indoors instead of letting them roam free and deficate all over the neighbours gardens?

The cat-owner made the decision to purchase the cat, so they should take full responsibility for looking after it properly and shouldn't expect their neighbours to put up with it or incur additional expense to keep it off their gardens.

I don't have a garden, so cats don't really bother me, but I can I can understand why some people would get so frustrated with them that they would lay down poison.”

Wow. How utterly disgusting that you'd kill something just because it "annoyed" you and cause terrible grief to the owner in the process . I'm glad you're not a neighbour of mine and I'm glad I'm nothing like you.
abarthman
14-12-2011
Originally Posted by Ella Nut:
“Wow. How utterly disgusting that you'd kill something just because it "annoyed" you and cause terrible grief to the owner in the process . I'm glad you're not a neighbour of mine and I'm glad I'm nothing like you.”

Did you even read my post before quoting it and making some of the words bold?

Try re-reading it slowly and understanding the words:

"... cats don't really bother me, but I can I can understand why some people would get so frustrated with them that they would lay down poison."


Just for clarification, saying "cats don't really bother me" should give you the first hint that I'm unlikely to poison a cat.

Secondly, saying "I can understand why some people would get so frustrated with them that they would lay down poison" does not mean "I would lay down poison". It means I can understand why some people do it. That's all. Your cat would be quite safe if I were your neighbour.

I suggest that you take the time to properly read and understand posts in future before posting responses that make you appear foolish
SCDchick
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by Ella Nut:
“Wow. How utterly disgusting that you'd kill something just because it "annoyed" you and cause terrible grief to the owner in the process . I'm glad you're not a neighbour of mine and I'm glad I'm nothing like you.”

This is exactly the sort of selfish blinkered attitude with certain cat owners that people hate. The thought that they can let theyre cats go anywhere they want running all over peoples properties and becoming a nuisance then for the cat owner to point the finger and say youre a bad person because you dont like the cats. Baffles me
Bananacreampie
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by SCDchick:
“This is exactly the sort of selfish blinkered attitude with certain cat owners that people hate. The thought that they can let theyre cats go anywhere they want running all over peoples properties and becoming a nuisance then for the cat owner to point the finger and say youre a bad person because you dont like the cats. Baffles me”

The perfect cat owner is someone who who loves them enough to keep them in.


When a dog gets out we worry they may run in the road or get lost... the last thing we would think or worry about is "OH no they might poo in someone's garden"

Why cant cat owners think like that, why cant they think "oh I worry about my cat as some people dont like them and could do something to them, or they may get run over or lost" but they dont , they just bleat on about a cats right to roam
outside
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by SCDchick:
“This is exactly the sort of selfish blinkered attitude with certain cat owners that people hate. The thought that they can let theyre cats go anywhere they want running all over peoples properties and becoming a nuisance then for the cat owner to point the finger and say youre a bad person because you dont like the cats. Baffles me”

Grow a brain.
Ella Nut
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by abarthman:
“Did you even read my post before quoting it and making some of the words bold?

Try re-reading it slowly and understanding the words:

"... cats don't really bother me, but I can I can understand why some people would get so frustrated with them that they would lay down poison."


Just for clarification, saying "cats don't really bother me" should give you the first hint that I'm unlikely to poison a cat.

Secondly, saying "I can understand why some people would get so frustrated with them that they would lay down poison" does not mean "I would lay down poison". It means I can understand why some people do it. That's all. Your cat would be quite safe if I were your neighbour.

I suggest that you take the time to properly read and understand posts in future before posting responses that make you appear foolish”

I most certainly did read your post properly and anticipated your reply. Whilst I appreciate the fact that my cat would be safe around you, as a neighbour, even the fact that you understand why there are people who WOULD poison a cat for coming into their garden (and I suppose doing their business or disburbing plants) was enough to disgust me. If you understand why people take the extreme action of poisoning, then to me, you are no better, even if you think you are. I hope this clarifies my position on the matter.
philengland
15-12-2011
If anyone was to harm my cat in any way, I would not be happy, I would probably take legal action!

My cat is my baby, I love him to bits. I have trained him to only use the litter box.
Ella Nut
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by SCDchick:
“This is exactly the sort of selfish blinkered attitude with certain cat owners that people hate. The thought that they can let theyre cats go anywhere they want running all over peoples properties and becoming a nuisance then for the cat owner to point the finger and say youre a bad person because you dont like the cats. Baffles me”

I am not blinkered, I understand that there are people who do not like cats in their gardens, I am merely saying there are ways of dealing with this type of "nuisance" that does not involve killing them. People are not bad because they don't like cats, but yes, if they do put down poison then I consider them vile, disgusting excuses of human beings.
Bananacreampie
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by Ella Nut:
“I most certainly did read your post properly and anticipated your reply. Whilst I appreciate the fact that my cat would be safe around you, as a neighbour, even the fact that you understand why there are people who WOULD poison a cat for coming into their garden (and I suppose doing their business or disburbing plants) was enough to disgust me. If you understand why people take the extreme action of poisoning, then to me, you are no better, even if you think you are. I hope this clarifies my position on the matter.”

No you actually didn't read it, as your reply to it makes no sense.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...5&postcount=52

If you didn't read it properly and just hate to admit it.. then OK fair enough you goofed but no one is going to think anything of it.
Ella Nut
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by Bananacreampie:
“No you actually didn't read it, as your reply to it makes no sense.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...5&postcount=52

If you didn't read it properly and just hate to admit it.. then OK fair enough you goofed but no one is going to think anything of it. ”

No, once again, I actually did read it, I think you're no better than the person who would happily lay down poison which is why I addressed you in that manner. If you can "understand" why people take these measures then I don't differentiate between them and you. You may not like it but that's my point of view. No goofing occurred.
ruffles
15-12-2011
Well , I still think there is a phantom human pooper running amok . Bounder .
Bananacreampie
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by Ella Nut:
“No, once again, I actually did read it, I think you're no better than the person who would happily lay down poison which is why I addressed you in that manner. If you can "understand" why people take these measures then I don't differentiate between them and you. You may not like it but that's my point of view. No goofing occurred.”


Keep digging. No way can "you would kill" mean "you are as bad as"
SCDchick
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by outside:
“Grow a brain.”

Is that the best thing you can come out with?
SCDchick
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by Bananacreampie:
“The perfect cat owner is someone who who loves them enough to keep them in.


When a dog gets out we worry they may run in the road or get lost... the last thing we would think or worry about is "OH no they might poo in someone's garden"

Why cant cat owners think like that, why cant they think "oh I worry about my cat as some people dont like them and could do something to them, or they may get run over or lost" but they dont , they just bleat on about a cats right to roam ”

I wonder about that too, think the `right to roam` misconception is all about the, not the cats, they are projecting theyre human feelings of freedom on to the cats. There are plenty of people out there who have happy and healthy indoor cats
SCDchick
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by Ella Nut:
“I am not blinkered, I understand that there are people who do not like cats in their gardens, I am merely saying there are ways of dealing with this type of "nuisance" that does not involve killing them. People are not bad because they don't like cats, but yes, if they do put down poison then I consider them vile, disgusting excuses of human beings.”

The problem is many of the deterrents dont work or only work for a very short amount of time and are expensive, and people are not happy about having to spend theyre own money to keep someone elses cat out of theyre garden. Its an issue which needs to be changed. People should have a right to enjoy theyre home and garden without interference from a neighbours pet. I believe that people would have a better attitude about cats if they were kept indoors, people build up a dislike of them because of the inconsiderate owner
Bananacreampie
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by SCDchick:
“Is that the best thing you can come out with?”


Maybe they mean a spare.... as they want to borrow it
Bananacreampie
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by SCDchick:
“I wonder about that too, think the `right to roam` misconception is all about the, not the cats, they are projecting theyre human feelings of freedom on to the cats. There are plenty of people out there who have happy and healthy indoor cats”


It is about us and how we think the cat feels, all animals love to roam but we dont let them as we know they might come to harm, but we let our beloved cats
Bananacreampie
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by SCDchick:
“The problem is many of the deterrents dont work or only work for a very short amount of time and are expensive, and people are not happy about having to spend theyre own money to keep someone elses cat out of theyre garden. Its an issue which needs to be changed. People should have a right to enjoy theyre home and garden without interference from a neighbours pet. I believe that people would have a better attitude about cats if they were kept indoors, people build up a dislike of them because of the inconsiderate owner”

No deterrent works on all cats, some dont work on any. some people have tried everything and nothing works.

I cant understand what is so hard about securing your garden or making a cat run Would save so much hassle to other people, save a lot of wildlife and keep cats safe, so not getting why people hate the idea.
SCDchick
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by Bananacreampie:
“It is about us and how we think the cat feels, all animals love to roam but we dont let them as we know they might come to harm, but we let our beloved cats ”

I agree with you. All pet animals are meant to roam really, but most of them are controlled. The only animals which should roam are wild life. If you look at dogs, some of them were meant to roam, and some of them are hunters(terriers for example) but dogs have to be controlled, meant to be anyway. If a dog owner let theyre dog wander around harming wild life and defecating on peoples properties the owner would likely be prosecuted, people would make a big deal about it, but it seems a lot of people turn a blind eye when cats do it.
SCDchick
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by Bananacreampie:
“Maybe they mean a spare.... as they want to borrow it ”

Lol makes me wonder
Deb Arkle
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by philengland:
“If anyone was to harm my cat in any way, I would not be happy, I would probably take legal action!

My cat is my baby, I love him to bits. I have trained him to only use the litter box.”

Who would you take legal action against? You'd probably never know who was responsible, much as bird or fish owners never know whose cat has killed their animals.
SCDchick
15-12-2011
Originally Posted by Bananacreampie:
“No deterrent works on all cats, some dont work on any. some people have tried everything and nothing works.

I cant understand what is so hard about securing your garden or making a cat run Would save so much hassle to other people, save a lot of wildlife and keep cats safe, so not getting why people hate the idea.”

Thats right. Keeping cats inside or enclosed is a triple-positive, the cats are safe, the wild life are safe, and people would be in harmony. A bit of consideration can go a long way. But its clear the law needs to change. Its very unfair on people who dont own cats
ruffles
16-12-2011
Anti freeze is harmful to all animals and the eco system . If you were to leave some lying about , you dont know what damage could be done . So a person would not do such a thing if they were concerned for the wildlife in gardens . You are not supposed to even pour it down a drain . It does not affect only cats . I thought gardening was supposed to be theraputic .
susie-4964
16-12-2011
Originally Posted by Bananacreampie:
“Calm down. Who are you to tell people to get a grip when you come in all guns blazing



I have always had cats but still understand why others dont want them in their gardens, people have a right to let their children play without fear that they are going to get cat shite on their hands and maybe put their hands in their mouths!

Plants are also very expensive maybe if people with cats put money into a pot every year for people who don't have cats to buy new plants with then their cats can go dig them up to their little hearts content.”

For once I find myself agreeing with you, and I've got two outdoor cats as well! I'm aware that they do poo in our garden, and probably in next door's, but fortunately they're also cat lovers. If I didn't have a cat myself, I'd probably go mental at having a load of cat crap in my flowerbeds.

I now also have one indoor cat, and if I ever get another one, it will be kept indoors as well. It's not fair to inflict your animals on other people. Although obviously I wouldn't advocate poisoning them, that's way OTT.
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