I can understand why desperate people do all sorts of terrible things, but that does not mean that I advocate their actions.

Unless you are one of those people who simply can't admit when they are wrong, you should just admit that you misread my post, apologise and move on. It's easy. No point continuing to dig.

I think you are confusing me with Banacreampie!

I said she had maybe misread it, but Ella insisted she hadn't.

I also see Ella had got us confused and then I thought she really could not see anything through the red mist of anger about you killing cats so I left it

True story. One of my employer's sites has a popular woodland dog-walking path along its boundary, which terminates in the car park.

Every day the facilities staff were finding a large poo in the same place. They put it down to some big dog getting an early-morning walk.

Frustrated at having to clear it up every day, they trained the CCTV camera on the spot and, when they later checked the CCTV footage, they were shocked to see a car draw up and a gentleman in a business suit getting out and squatting down!

There's a McDonald's less than a mile away from the location that opens at 5am, so I think he must have just enjoyed doing the toilet out in the open!

His car registration number was passed to the police, who, no doubt, had a word with him, because it hasn't happened since!

I often wonder how he explained his bizarre behaviour to the police!

Lol why didnt he just go to the toilets nearby like a civilised person? He needs to be litter trained

Cats do like the taste, this happened to my mum's cat, luckily we took his to the vets, and was ok.

Our non-pet owning neighbours across the road have started throwing cat poo on to our drive and pavement, apparently blaming our 1 year old cat for whatever problems they must be having, with which i sympathise as before taking in this cat as a favour i too was forever clearing up cat poo from the front lawn, a regular chore that i didn't much enjoy, which interestingly no longer happens, yet given there are several cats in the immediate area, their behaviour does seem somewhat over the top, at best anti-social and at worst illegal by fouling the pavements. I don't want to keep the little guy trapped in the house all the time, he loves being out, won't use his tray though, and these neighbours are the type of people who would almost certainly view cats as a pest to be done away with, a neighbours cat "disappeared without trace" recently, so i'm hoping these poo throwing neighbours don't find out about the effects of leaving out a pot of anti-freeze, otherwise we too could end up with a dead moggy.

What can be done to ease this situation?

There are a couple of e-petitions people can sign: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/15410 and http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/12547

They've only had a couple of hundred signatures, though, which is surprising given the number of cat lovers in the country; I can't seem to find any other petitions on the issue.

Its these types of posts that baffle me

I can understand why your neighbours feel like they do, why should they clear up after others pets? They are hardly going to be thanking you for it

Where do you think he is going to go to the toilet if he doesnt use a litter tray? Sorry to say the only person who is being anti social is yourself as you are not being considerate to anyone else by letting him crap in others gardens.

Is there any particular reason why you think that they should clear up the mess?

If you want to keep your cat safe then its up to you to do that, its your pet

Two more here:

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/23307

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/18274

Keep the damn cat indoors, of course!

You already suspect that it'll disappear" if you keep letting it out!.

Just because you think "he loves being out", do you think that gives you free reign to inflict him on all your neighbours?

In the eyes of many of your neighbours, you are the one exhibiting the anti-social behaviour by allowing your pet to roam free. It's just a pest to them.

It's yours, so take responsibility for looking after it properly.

Posts like this baffle me.

The neighbours are throwing cat poo on the poster's drive even though there is no evidence the poster's cat is the culprit. The neighbours are not cleaning up the mess, they are moving it elsewhere out of temper. I think that is unacceptable behaviour even if the cat in question is responsible.

I would be happy to clean up my own cats' poo, if asked and if there was evidence my own cats were responsible but there are many, many cats, dogs, foxes etc that defaecate inappropriately and we sometimes have to adopt some tolerance to these situations. I get dog poo outside my house (I don't have a dog), I just clean it up though I know which dog and owner is responsible.

Whether you like it or not, cats have a legal right to roam and being a responsible cat owner, from the perspective of many cat owners, does not mean keeping a cat cooped up indoors - quite the opposite. One of the conditions in adopting most rescue cats is allowing them outdoors.

I'm not sure why so many cat dislikers are frequenting the pet forum but I'm grateful I've lived for 10 years in my current house with no issues with my cats roaming outside. Luckily, my late Tabitha, when she got to about 12, rarely left my garden and Bernard barely leaves the house. My rescue cats do visit my neighbours gardens but I've never had any complaints. I've not heard of any untoward cat deaths or incidents. There was a RTA about 4 years ago in the next road and I had several concerned neighbours knock on my door asking if it could have been my cat as the description fitted Bernard. There are lots and lots of cats where I live because it's a peaceful, quiet area so people are used to having cats around and seem to accept them.

People will have their opinions on cats but those of us who allow our cats outside (I would say the majority of cat owners though maybe not the majority on this forum) are not going to stop this practice because of a few rather unpleasant and antagonistic posts here.

Your post is exactly what i mean about the certain cat owners with an in-ability or unwillingness to understand that people dont want to clean up someone elses pet mess and put up with the problems they cause

What do you expect the neighbours to do? Do you think they enjoy it? I think you are trying to say that people should clean up after yours and others cats and that its acceptable and ok and we should just put up with it

I pretty much find it unbelievable that you said you think its unacceptable for them to do that even if the owners cat is the one responsible. And you wonder why certain comments are `unpleasant`

Even if it isnt the one in particular who is doing it, the owner lets the cat run free anywhere it wants amongst others who do that so what do you want people to do to provide evidence, sit in the garden all day and night waiting out to see which cat is the culprit? Spend lots of money on useless deterrents?

You obviously enjoy the cat owners privileged position with the law (which is a ridiculous law considering health hazards and the damage caused to wild life, etc)

You (and various cat shelters) wont stop letting your cat roam free because you dont have consideration for others and you dont care about wild life and the health hazard. people should be able to enjoy theyre home and garden without a nuisance inflicted from inconsiderate people. Some cat owners do keep theyre cats inside

And to blame it on foxes and dogs is pretty lame, foxes are wild animals and they are meant to be there. Dogs have to be controlled by law so its almost laughable you used them as an excuse, you are trying to put the blame on other animals when you know very well its cats. Why should people tolerate others cats? Just because you have some romantic notion of cats running free?

We're not back to saying that it's OK for pet cats to crap in gardens because the indigenous wildlife does so are we? Is that really the best argument you've got?

Deal with the dog-owner then. Don't try to use this as some kind of justification. Two wrongs don't make a right!
Whether you like it or not, there's no legal responsibility for anyone to ensure that their property is safe for cats to roam. If I had a pet cat, I would look after its welfare as best I could and that would include keeping it indoors where it is safe from situations and people that may do it harm.

I love dogs, but, trust me, I'm equally as critical of dog-owners who allow their pets to crap all over the pavement and in children's playparks.

And there's the I'm legally entitled to let my cat crap in all my neighbours gardens so I will attitude again.

Sadly many people do seem to have an intense and irrational hatred of cats ~ see my thread from 2008 here

I expect you mean people who posted in this thread?

What amazes me is you posted a thread about it a few years ago, plenty of people replied giving rational reasons why they dont like cats, for e.g the pointless killing of wildlife, crapping on gardens etc, and its crystal clear why some people have issues with cats, but you are making out people have an intense and irrational hatred of cats with no good reason, in this thread did anyone say they hated cats?

Have you actually read all the replies in this thread?

Its the same as usual you put cats on a pedestal and everyone else who does not happen to like them are big, mean cat haters who are irrational and stupid, it does not work that way.

At the end of the day the fault lies with the owner who lets the cat out to do what it pleases and then acts all offended and huffy when people dont like it and build up an intolerance of them. Cats will do what they want when given the opportunity, so its not really theyre fault , it comes down to the owner, animals act on instinct, humans can act on reason. Imagine if there was another domestic pet which had the same privileges as cats, and were allowed to be let out to harm wildlife and be a nuisance, i can put a big bet on it that a lot of cat-people would be up in arms trying to get the animal controlled

I dont have a cat for various reasons, mainly for the safety of local wildlife, who dont deserve to be harmed by a domestic pet that is killing because its owner lets it out to do what it pleases

In law, a cat has the right to roam freely. They are classed as "free spirits". Most cats love to roam about freely. Obviously, some people do have an issue with that, primarily because they crap in people's gardens and kill local wildlife. But for the most part, they crap in their owner's garden, and actually don't kill nearly as much wildlife as some suggest.

My point is this, and I think it's a valid one ~ people who like cats, including non cat owners, rarely have a problem with them. Conversely, people who don't are the ones to make a big thing out of very little.

I have heard people say (not just on here) some awfully hateful things about cats, and cat owners always fear that there are those in their neigbourhood who are spiteful enough to want to hurt or kill them.

I like cats..I dont like pepoles cats coming into my garden and crapping in it though..I like gardening and am not happy to plunge my hand into the soil straight inot a pile of poo!..
I do understand the neoghbour who has thrown the poo back in the cat owners driveway..the cat owner herself has admitted the cat had a problem crapping on their own grass and not burying it in soil..so if the neighbours are witnessing this then they have taken it on themselves tio give the said poo back to the cat owner!!..this is fair enough..I wouldnt condone them doing something deadly to the cat but can understand their frustration if it is a recurring incident..

You do not have to "hate" cats to detest seeing a cat crapping in your garden..I have a young son and have to take precautions with his sand pit,be careful where he is digging in the soil when out with me planting..when really it is my garden..private property so why should your cat come and crap there..would I bring my small child to your garden and let him squat on your borders?..

Cats and freedom..well when the odd person had one cat that was fine..now many have 3/4/5/6 cats..with houses almost on top of eachother..I do believbe the law will change where cats are concerned in time..dog owners are held accountable for their pets,maybe cat owenrs should watch their own a little more..

I do not agree with anyone who harms,maims or kills a cat..but I can see how frustrating a problem it can be for those who are fed up of the same cats coming into their garden..I shoosh cats out of our garden when I can..and have been known to turn the hose on them..(same ones coming in several times a day and spraying up against my sons outdoor toys..it stinks!)..there are lots of reasons people become tired of feline visitors..just because you love your cat do not expect everyone else to..and if you let your cat out then unfortunately you do take the risk of him/her being shooed off,sprayed,shouted at or worse..

`My point is this, and I think it's a valid one ~ people who like cats, including non cat owners, rarely have a problem with them. Conversely, people who don't are the ones to make a big thing out of very little.'

Of course you dont, its not you who has to deal with them. This is precisely why many cat-owners are labelled as selfish

Well said shirlt9

"Has to deal with them" ? lol ~ you make it sound like a nervous breakdown inducing experience. It's a cat, is all. Maybe it's done it's business in your garden. You're not going to die as a result. Get over it

In my opinion, it's people who make a huge fuss over such a minor issue that are selfish. If that's all you've got to worry about, you're an incredibly lucky individual.

Yeah, that right there is exactly the sort of `i cant give a toss` attitude which is oh so common with many cat owners selfish, arrogant and inconsiderate.

Thanks for showing how much regard you show for anyone else apart from yourself

Its easy .Just stick a sign in your garden saying "Cats ,Don't Turd Here !" .Sorted .