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Old 13-10-2004, 13:33
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On my nokia 6100 i noticed i can still dial 08 when the key locks on.

Also you can dial 112, 999 & 911

so i presume it's an emergency services thing. does anyone know where it's an emergency service number?
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Old 13-10-2004, 13:39
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You can also dial 000
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Old 13-10-2004, 14:17
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080 is/was apparantly the emergency code for Mexico.
000 is/was the emergency code for Australia, alongside 112.
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Old 13-10-2004, 15:48
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I can only dial 999, 112 and 911 on my 6600, with the keypad locked.
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Old 13-10-2004, 15:54
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I can dial on my 3200

911
999
000
112
08

With it locked
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Old 13-10-2004, 17:41
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Same with Sony Ericsson phones. They will all connect you to emergency services in the UK.
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Old 13-10-2004, 19:35
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On my 3650 i can only dial 999 and 112. Considering its a tri-band phone and works in the states etc you would think it would let me do 911. Maybe it will change if i go there?
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Old 13-10-2004, 20:22
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Originally Posted by Pingu
I can only dial 999, 112 and 911 on my 6600, with the keypad locked.
precisely the same on my Sagem MY-V65...
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Old 13-10-2004, 20:56
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Originally Posted by Tadpole
000 is/was the emergency code for Australia, alongside 112.
000 was also the emergency number in Finland (now the standardised 112) where the phone was made.
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Old 13-10-2004, 21:13
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read the title and tired it. Came up on screen that i was calling sos so i quickly cancelled. It would be a bit stupid if you coudnt dial an emergeny service when the keypad is locked.
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Old 13-10-2004, 21:27
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I can dial 0 but not 000 on my Sony Erricson T630, 112, 999 and 9111. I can also do 08 but need to dial it in twice before I can call it...
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Old 15-10-2004, 13:22
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K700i
you can dial
08
112
911

but no 999.
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Old 19-10-2004, 23:14
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Nokia 7250i

08
112
911
999

Does not vary within country, as 000 is used in Australia and did not work when i was there (FYI: 16 Dec 2003 - 13 Jan 2004)
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Old 21-10-2004, 10:41
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Originally Posted by lepissmall
read the title and tired it. Came up on screen that i was calling sos so i quickly cancelled. It would be a bit stupid if you coudnt dial an emergeny service when the keypad is locked.
IMHO it is totally stupid that you can dial 999 with the keypad locked - i could accidently end up calling the emergancy services and have no idea about it.

Come on, how much time is lost by dialing c*999[Call] instead of 999[Call], and the emergancy services arn't having to deal with accediental calls it surley saves time?
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Old 21-10-2004, 12:52
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IIRC you should also be able to contact emergency services on a mobile even if it has no SIM card in it
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Old 21-10-2004, 13:02
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Originally Posted by kev
Come on, how much time is lost by dialing c*999[Call] instead of 999[Call], and the emergancy services arn't having to deal with accediental calls it surley saves time?
Kev, the reason that it works this way is so that if someone who doesn't know how to unlock your keypad needs to use your phone to call the emergency services (eg if YOU were involved in an incident) they are immediately able to.

I do however agree that it is worrying that you could inadventently call 999 (or one of these other numbers) totally obliviously.
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Old 21-10-2004, 15:32
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Originally Posted by lukenuckley
Kev, the reason that it works this way is so that if someone who doesn't know how to unlock your keypad needs to use your phone to call the emergency services (eg if YOU were involved in an incident) they are immediately able to.

I do however agree that it is worrying that you could inadventently call 999 (or one of these other numbers) totally obliviously.
IMHO the later of these is the most important of these. with my old 5110 this happened to me all the time.

In the old days if they got a hangup to 999 they would call back and try to trace the call etc. now they just ignore it.

If someone can't unloack a phone, even though it says how to on the screen, they are beyond help.
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Old 21-10-2004, 15:43
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Originally Posted by flagpole
IMHO the later of these is the most important of these. with my old 5110 this happened to me all the time.

In the old days if they got a hangup to 999 they would call back and try to trace the call etc. now they just ignore it.

If someone can't unloack a phone, even though it says how to on the screen, they are beyond help.
"Keys Locked. Press C, then * to unlock" is a bit of a giveaway (while your in the UK at least)

IMHO all phones should standardise on the same method.

agentz, thats true of some countries, however the UK networks need a active simcard in - old Nokias that say "Emergancy Calls Only" when you (a T-Mobile customer) are roaming on Orange (say) are telling lies, although that might be the situation in Finland. At least my Sony Ericsson is more honest, saying "Select Net?"
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Old 21-10-2004, 16:10
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Originally Posted by flagpole
If someone can't unloack a phone, even though it says how to on the screen, they are beyond help.
I hear what you're saying flagpole but imagine a situation involving, for instance, an elderly person who has never used a mobile phone and, for arguments sake, a car accident. That person is likely to be pretty shaken up anyway if they have just been involved in or arrived at the scene of an incident where the emergency services are required. The last thing they want to be doing is trying to work outhow to unlock your handset, they just want to be able to tap in 3 digits and get connected to the appropriate service ASAP.

I don't want to get into an argument about this, I'm merely playing devils advocate.

I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure there is some kind of legislation relating to this too along the lines of "all telephony equipment must be able to access the emergency services immediately and free of charge" (hence the point about even phones with no SIM cards in being able to connect) Anyone able to shed any further light on this...?

I still agree that it's far from ideal that you can easily call 999/112/911 etc. without realising at all, I for one have had one very embarrassing conversation with an emergency operator having myself connected inadventently.

Phew, rant over!
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Old 21-10-2004, 16:17
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Originally Posted by lukenuckley
That person is likely to be pretty shaken up anyway if they have just been involved in or arrived at the scene of an incident where the emergency services are required.
I agree. I have been in the situation where i have had to dial 999 and when you're in that state you can't even feel your fingers never mind unlocking a phone.

I think the phone companies should come up with another solution so avoid accidental 999 calls but its hard to think what.
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Old 21-10-2004, 16:48
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Originally Posted by lukenuckley
I hear what you're saying flagpole but imagine a situation involving, for instance, an elderly person who has never used a mobile phone and, for arguments sake, a car accident. That person is likely to be pretty shaken up anyway if they have just been involved in or arrived at the scene of an incident where the emergency services are required. The last thing they want to be doing is trying to work outhow to unlock your handset, they just want to be able to tap in 3 digits and get connected to the appropriate service ASAP.
3 digits doesn't work on most phones, you still to suss what the call button is - an a horizontal green line is not exactly a helpful one, and the red/green handsets arn't going to help the colour blind either.
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Old 21-10-2004, 17:01
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Originally Posted by kev
3 digits doesn't work on most phones, you still to suss what the call button is - an a horizontal green line is not exactly a helpful one, and the red/green handsets arn't going to help the colour blind either.
Yep thats what i was going to say. i think my gran who is used to not having to press anything other than the numbers would not know to press call, particularly as my phone doesn't say that you should.

All this having been said it took me a couple of goes to unlock a 6230 the other day.
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Old 21-10-2004, 17:03
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Originally Posted by kev
3 digits doesn't work on most phones, you still to suss what the call button is - an a horizontal green line is not exactly a helpful one, and the red/green handsets arn't going to help the colour blind either
I'm glad to see that people on these forums are just as pedantic as I am. I think I'll fit in well here!


Originally Posted by examinus
I think the phone companies should come up with another solution so avoid accidental 999 calls but its hard to think what
Any ideas anyone?
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Old 21-10-2004, 17:09
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I think its just an endless paradox.
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Old 21-10-2004, 17:11
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Originally Posted by lukenuckley
Any ideas anyone?
I was going to suggest a thing on one of the nav keys that says 'emergency call' you press it then it says are you sure, press something to confirm.

but non of this would help, my gran could never read whats on the screen even if she did have her reading glasses.
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