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The John James & Josie Appreciation Thread (Part 215)
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dollydaydream81
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by ferfer:
“And yet...he knows his fans take this as about Josie. Just like with the youtubes. So basically he's igniting things again and more, when if he really was trying to calm things down, he could do so, forthrightly.

But he chooses not to. So I don't agree. Because John's smart enough to know what he's doing.

I'm not saying doesn't have a right to tweet what he wants. And maybe this isn't even about this song or whatever. Who knows.

But John knows the reaction it's going to get. And yet...”

Sorry to disagree but it was only on tuesday Josie referred to a 'shitty' relationship which was clearly about John so I think they're both guilty for igniting things x
Wendilums
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by wongos123:
“Evening peeps hope all are well

Read back a bit seen John tweeted, nice to know he's still alive

I don't read twitter but i think it is sad people sending hate tweets to Josie if they support John or to John if they support Josie, i don't get it.”

Evening Susan
andcb
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by dollydaydream81:
“Sorry to disagree but it was only on tuesday Josie referred to a 'shitty' relationship which was clearly about John so I think they're both guilty for igniting things x”

You beat me to it - I was just about the post the same They are both as bad as each other
Wendilums
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by dollydaydream81:
“Sorry to disagree but it was only on tuesday Josie referred to a 'shitty' relationship which was clearly about John so I think they're both guilty for igniting things x”

Evening Dolly

Totally agree - but it needs to stop. A joint tweet is all it would take Followed by the click of the block button to those who choose to carry on and on and on
ferfer
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by dollydaydream81:
“Sorry to disagree but it was only on tuesday Josie referred to a 'shitty' relationship which was clearly about John so I think they're both guilty for igniting things x”

Originally Posted by andcb:
“You beat me to it - I was just about the post the same They are both as bad as each other”

So then are you saying you disagree with Wendy's assessment?
lerdie
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by ferfer:
“And yet...he knows his fans take this as about Josie. Just like with the youtubes. So basically he's igniting things again and more, when if he really was trying to calm things down, he could do so, forthrightly.

But he chooses not to. So I don't agree. Because John's smart enough to know what he's doing.

I'm not saying doesn't have a right to tweet what he wants. And maybe this isn't even about this song or whatever. Who knows.

But John knows the reaction it's going to get. And yet...”

Evening Everyone Watching Xfactor

Ferfer I don't always agree with your posts but have on both yours today, don't know what John meant by his tweet but as he probably reads everything he knows how it is going to be interpreted rightly or wrongly xx
2Judy
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“Judy put up the post - which is what the "quote" John posted refers to - it's there to be read, anyway people desire. My take on it Ferfs - sorry you don't agree. John has always been cryptic - yes he could tweet the English way - direct - but chooses to tweet the Australian way. Up to his supporters and some muckers I'm afraid. Whilst the vitriol carries on John won't tweet. As I said in an earlier post, to me there is only one way to stop all this once and for all. At least on here we can agree to disagree unlike a small minority of supporters on twitter.”



Wendy your box is full up, pmd you
wongos123
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“Evening Susan ”

Evening Wends, got you pm

is pickles likely to be on tonight
dollydaydream81
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by ferfer:
“So then are you saying you disagree with Wendy's assessment?”

No like I said earlier I genuinely think Johns tweet was either a quote from a film or a song, obviously thats not a fact lol thats my take on it which is all we can do. Thats all I think it was, I do think John has deliberately tweeted some cryptic tweets in the past which could be interpreted many ways but I don't think this was one and my point was that there hadn't been anything for quite a while but then Josie mentioned him in her column which riles up the 'muckers' to then tweet her things like 'yeah you're better off without him' so wether there was a hidden meaning behind it or not they have both done it this week
Rabita
10-12-2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbmUNPyDBE
andcb
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by ferfer:
“So then are you saying you disagree with Wendy's assessment?”

If you look back at my reply to Wendy I didn't say I agreed or disagreed I just said "If it is about the twitter war then I really hope people listen"
Wendilums
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by 2Judy:
“Wendy your box is full up, pmd you”

It's clear now

Originally Posted by wongos123:
“Evening Wends, got you pm

is pickles likely to be on tonight”

Don't know Susan - if her arm is aching then she may not. Plus she could be watching Xfactor
wongos123
10-12-2011
I don't know what John was trying to say with his tweet...i never understood most of his tweets but i do agree, i read Now ....clearly talking about John James.....Josie is entitled to say/feel what she wants...as is John.


John can not be accused of starting things up and not Josie IMO.
Wendilums
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by wongos123:
“I don't know what John was trying to say with his tweet...i never understood most of his tweets but i do agree, i read Now ....clearly talking about John James.....Josie is entitled to say/feel what she wants...as is John.


John can not be accused of starting things up and not Josie IMO.”

Totally agree 100%

I APPRECIATE both John and Josie, doesn't mean I can't see their flaws, they're not robots, they're human beings, human beings are not perfect. It also doesn't mean I have to be hateful, hurtfull, spitefull in my views.
ferfer
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by andcb:
“If you look back at my reply to Wendy I didn't say I agreed or disagreed I just said "If it is about the twitter war then I really hope people listen" ”

Well I agree on that account.
NicLau08
10-12-2011
Right Ladies. Here is the next part of 'The Golden Story.
One of the verses you will have seen before as I added and changed a few bits. It's always a work in progress and when I read back I'm never happy so have to twiddle.
This is set just after the talk outside under the doona in the garden on Fire Escape Day.

They moved to the bedroom and John's mind had settled
It seemed he was ready to say
How he wanted to run if she wasn't his friend
And the depth of his feelings that day
He tried to explain how his feelings had grown
How it shook him just how much he cared
He wasn't sure why he was feeling this way
It was very rare he declared

Our Jose she looked stunned as she took it all in
At first she just stared as he spoke
He said how it hurt him if she was upset
And still our Jose thought it a joke
They talked of the rounders when she didn't play
He hadn't picked her in his team
He then said if she were to go from the house
He'd leave straight away---what a dream

They then were disturbed as Andrew appeared
With Jaffa cake offerings in tow
He said he was glad that John hadn’t left
He’d have missed him if he’d had to go
Jose said that she wished Andrew’d come in before
Then he’d be her husband not John
You could almost see John as he gritted his teeth
The jealousy wouldn’t be gone.


I'm really not sure if this settled John's mind
It seemed he decided to say
That there were lots of things that he loved about her
He couldn't explain it but hey
He told her he loved the way that she talked
And even the way that she ate
It really was such a heart warming speech
We listened and thought it was great

He told her when he'd felt the way that he did
About people before that he knew
He'd give his life for them to show how he cared
And with Josie he would do that we knew
She called him a weirdo but in a nice way
As no one cared for her like that
They knew she was strong and could cope with it all
She was totally shocked by his chat.


They moved under the doonas and lights were turned off
As others thought they'd go to sleep
They were getting more close you could tell by the shapes
And the talking was getting real deep
We were told the next day that there was a kiss
And he said that he felt the same way
It was only the things that we'd already guessed
But he wanted it secret that day



I'm still not so sure she believed what he said
And realised he spoke from the heart
But I think that the truth was that in that strange place
He'd been shaken and pulled right apart
He'd fallen for her with incredible force
She'd gotten right under his skin
And he knew if he once let his guard drop right down
An emotional mess he'd be in.
ferfer
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by lerdie:
“Evening Everyone Watching Xfactor

Ferfer I don't always agree with your posts but have on both yours today, don't know what John meant by his tweet but as he probably reads everything he knows how it is going to be interpreted rightly or wrongly xx”

Thanks. Of course he does. He's a smart one.
andcb
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by ferfer:
“Well I agree on that account.”

Thank you

I also said this earlier "As always with John's strange tweets I am not going to try to work out what it means - I would probably be wrong anyway"

I do enjoy reading everyones interpretations of the tweets, but the only person who really knows what they mean (if anything) is John
wongos123
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“Totally agree 100%

I APPRECIATE both John and Josie, doesn't mean I can't see their flaws, they're not robots, they're human beings, human beings are not perfect. It also doesn't mean I have to be hateful, hurtfull, spitefull in my views. ”

agree...both get angry, upset, hurt .....like the majority they are both far from perfect.

I don't understand why people send nasty tweets to either of them or anyone else for that matter... it just seems very odd to me .......that's reason i stay away from it ....other than not having a clue how to use it
lerdie
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by NicLau08:
“Right Ladies. Here is the next part of 'The Golden Story.
One of the verses you will have seen before as I added and changed a few bits. It's always a work in progress and when I read back I'm never happy so have to twiddle.
This is set just after the talk outside under the doona in the garden on Fire Escape Day.

They moved to the bedroom and John's mind had settled
It seemed he was ready to say
How he wanted to run if she wasn't his friend
And the depth of his feelings that day
He tried to explain how his feelings had grown
How it shook him just how much he cared
He wasn't sure why he was feeling this way
It was very rare he declared

Our Jose she looked stunned as she took it all in
At first she just stared as he spoke
He said how it hurt him if she was upset
And still our Jose thought it a joke
They talked of the rounders when she didn't play
He hadn't picked her in his team
He then said if she were to go from the house
He'd leave straight away---what a dream

They then were disturbed as Andrew appeared

With Jaffa cake offerings in tow

He said he was glad that John hadn’t left

He’d have missed him if he’d had to go

Jose said that she wished Andrew’d come in before

Then he’d be her husband not John

You could almost see John as he gritted his teeth

The jealousy wouldn’t be gone.


I'm really not sure if this settled John's mind

It seemed he decided to say

*That there were lots of things that he loved about her

He couldn't explain it but hey
He told her he loved the way that she talked
And even the way that she ate
It really was such a heart warming speech
We listened and though it was great

He told her when he'd felt the way that he did
About people before that he knew
He'd give his life for them to show how he cared
And with Josie he would do that we knew
She called him a weirdo but in a nice way
As no one cared for her like that
They knew she was strong and could cope with it all
She was totally shocked by his chat.


They moved under the doonas and lights were turned off
As others thought they'd go to sleep
They were getting more close you could tell by the shapes
And the talking was getting real deep
We were told the next day that there was a kiss
And he said that he felt the same way
It was only the things that we'd already guessed
But he wanted it secret that day



I'm still not so sure she believed what he said
And realised he spoke from the heart
But I think that the truth was that in that strange place
He'd been shaken and pulled right apart
He'd fallen for her with incredible force
She'd gotten right under his skin
And he knew if he once let his guard drop right down
An emotional mess he'd be in.”

Great as usual Lyn xx
ferfer
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by wongos123:
“I don't know what John was trying to say with his tweet...i never understood most of his tweets but i do agree, i read Now ....clearly talking about John James.....Josie is entitled to say/feel what she wants...as is John.


John can not be accused of starting things up and not Josie IMO.”

Of course they are.

We were discussing John's tweet today and his meaning. So to do that, I need to also discuss everything that Josie's done?

Wow, these posts are going to be looooooooong if we always have to list what they've BOTH done.

-------------------------


I was in no way insulting John at all today. In fact, I get accused of not talking about him. Well I was here to discuss. And I'm giving him far more credit that many others here. John is smart. John doesn't randomly tweet. John does know what he's doing.
Wendilums
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by NicLau08:
“Right Ladies. Here is the next part of 'The Golden Story.
One of the verses you will have seen before as I added and changed a few bits. It's always a work in progress and when I read back I'm never happy so have to twiddle.
This is set just after the talk outside under the doona in the garden on Fire Escape Day.

They moved to the bedroom and John's mind had settled
It seemed he was ready to say
How he wanted to run if she wasn't his friend
And the depth of his feelings that day
He tried to explain how his feelings had grown
How it shook him just how much he cared
He wasn't sure why he was feeling this way
It was very rare he declared

Our Jose she looked stunned as she took it all in
At first she just stared as he spoke
He said how it hurt him if she was upset
And still our Jose thought it a joke
They talked of the rounders when she didn't play
He hadn't picked her in his team
He then said if she were to go from the house
He'd leave straight away---what a dream

They then were disturbed as Andrew appeared

With Jaffa cake offerings in tow

He said he was glad that John hadn’t left

He’d have missed him if he’d had to go

Jose said that she wished Andrew’d come in before

Then he’d be her husband not John

You could almost see John as he gritted his teeth

The jealousy wouldn’t be gone.


I'm really not sure if this settled John's mind

It seemed he decided to say

*That there were lots of things that he loved about her

He couldn't explain it but hey
He told her he loved the way that she talked
And even the way that she ate
It really was such a heart warming speech
We listened and though it was great

He told her when he'd felt the way that he did
About people before that he knew
He'd give his life for them to show how he cared
And with Josie he would do that we knew
She called him a weirdo but in a nice way
As no one cared for her like that
They knew she was strong and could cope with it all
She was totally shocked by his chat.


They moved under the doonas and lights were turned off
As others thought they'd go to sleep
They were getting more close you could tell by the shapes
And the talking was getting real deep
We were told the next day that there was a kiss
And he said that he felt the same way
It was only the things that we'd already guessed
But he wanted it secret that day

I'm still not so sure she believed what he said
And realised he spoke from the heart
But I think that the truth was that in that strange place
He'd been shaken and pulled right apart
He'd fallen for her with incredible force
She'd gotten right under his skin
And he knew if he once let his guard drop right down
An emotional mess he'd be in.”

Considering what's going on at the moment, this is a great poem Lyn, explaining in verse what went on. Great poem as usual, thanks love
welshgirlwpq2th
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by ferfer:
“Thanks. Of course he does. He's a smart one.”

I agree with you, he is smart, so is Josie who must have known that what she implied about him in last week 's mag would be igniting the flames for John's fans,she knew the reaction it was going to get,,,and yet
andcb
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by NicLau08:
“Right Ladies. Here is the next part of 'The Golden Story.
One of the verses you will have seen before as I added and changed a few bits. It's always a work in progress and when I read back I'm never happy so have to twiddle.
This is set just after the talk outside under the doona in the garden on Fire Escape Day.

They moved to the bedroom and John's mind had settled
It seemed he was ready to say
How he wanted to run if she wasn't his friend
And the depth of his feelings that day
He tried to explain how his feelings had grown
How it shook him just how much he cared
He wasn't sure why he was feeling this way
It was very rare he declared

Our Jose she looked stunned as she took it all in
At first she just stared as he spoke
He said how it hurt him if she was upset
And still our Jose thought it a joke
They talked of the rounders when she didn't play
He hadn't picked her in his team
He then said if she were to go from the house
He'd leave straight away---what a dream

They then were disturbed as Andrew appeared

With Jaffa cake offerings in tow

He said he was glad that John hadn’t left

He’d have missed him if he’d had to go

Jose said that she wished Andrew’d come in before

Then he’d be her husband not John

You could almost see John as he gritted his teeth

The jealousy wouldn’t be gone.


I'm really not sure if this settled John's mind

It seemed he decided to say

*That there were lots of things that he loved about her

He couldn't explain it but hey
He told her he loved the way that she talked
And even the way that she ate
It really was such a heart warming speech
We listened and though it was great

He told her when he'd felt the way that he did
About people before that he knew
He'd give his life for them to show how he cared
And with Josie he would do that we knew
She called him a weirdo but in a nice way
As no one cared for her like that
They knew she was strong and could cope with it all
She was totally shocked by his chat.


They moved under the doonas and lights were turned off
As others thought they'd go to sleep
They were getting more close you could tell by the shapes
And the talking was getting real deep
We were told the next day that there was a kiss
And he said that he felt the same way
It was only the things that we'd already guessed
But he wanted it secret that day



I'm still not so sure she believed what he said
And realised he spoke from the heart
But I think that the truth was that in that strange place
He'd been shaken and pulled right apart
He'd fallen for her with incredible force
She'd gotten right under his skin
And he knew if he once let his guard drop right down
An emotional mess he'd be in.”

Great poem Lyn
Wendilums
10-12-2011
Judy I am empty now and still nothing
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