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The John James & Josie Appreciation Thread (Part 215)
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Wendilums
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by landm:
“not having a go wendi,but that's not fair to thumbsucker,you and deb's had just made remark's about luke.(i can't bring those post's forward coz i can't multi quote)”

I made no remark landm, I just grinned, and to be honest I am only interested in John and Josie be it as individuals.
sbyres25
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“Evening ladies ”

Originally Posted by irishlaurels:
“Hi Joyce...Yes it is and if I get another one this winter it will be the last flu jab I get How are you keeping?”

I'm fine Eileen thanks. Just this bliddy weather getting me down. Had a power cut last week for 2 days.

Hope it doesn't strike 3 times. (the flu I mean)
Last edited by sbyres25 : 13-12-2011 at 19:51
thumbsucker
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by andcb:
“I apologise if I am wrong here but from your posts you don't really seem to appreciate John much so I was just wondering why you would be interested in checking Sherrie's fb ”

No I was surprised at the posts about one partner and so I showed how this would be if on the other foot. I didn't bring up the discussion but wanted it to be balanced. I'm actually a supporter of BOTH but it shows the reactions of certain posters if one partner is discussed rather than the other
mb35
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“Evening All”

Originally Posted by andcb:
“Welcome back Eileen and Kala ”

evening ladies xx
Originally Posted by sbyres25:
“Evening Eileen...sorry to hear you've been poorly. Thia is your 2nd dose of flu is it not? Flu jab hasn't helped at all.. Take care. xx



Hi kala.

Nothing much to tell. John's tweet caused a bit of stir as usual.

Hope you are feeling a bit better and looking forward to Christmas with your family.

Thinking about you and jella too. ”

hi luv,
the weather doesnt sound good at all, just wrote your card today and jella couldnt make out the address you wrote, so we looked up google maps, so gawd only knows where your card will end up...but hope you get it ok...
the doctors sorting me out with new pills for the headaches and sore neck, so hopefully cross fingers they will work this time...
am looking forward to christmas,just wish i was finished shopping thats all.....would be so much better if people told you exactly what they would like, save all the guess work wouldnt it lol
love
kala xxxx

Originally Posted by NicLau08:
“Evening Wendy and everyone else”

evening lyn xx
thumbsucker
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by landm:
“not having a go wendi,but that's not fair to thumbsucker,you and deb's had just made remark's about luke.(i can't bring those post's forward coz i can't multi quote)”

Thankyou, I was trying to point this out
jjjexhaustedfan
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by queenbdeb:
“dont under stand what double standeds what did i say”

As far as I could see there weren't any double standards from you. Everyone was discussing a tweet that Josie had sent about Luke so the discussion was all on topic and nothing nasty said about Luke at all.

Originally Posted by andcb:
“I apologise if I am wrong here but from your posts you don't really seem to appreciate John much so I was just wondering why you would be interested in checking Sherrie's fb ”

Good point. I do like John, but would not even think of looking at her facebook.

It is irrelevant to talk about balance, and I don't even think it is in the terms and conditions of an appreciation thread.

Obviously Josie tweets a lot, lot more than John. So does that mean every time Kaye posts a copy of Josie's tweet, she then has to find an old tweet of John to post to balance it out. No of course not - that would be ridiculous.

So naturally there is going to be a lot more talk about Josie than John.

That's the way it is for the time being, and not a lot anyone can do about.
andcb
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by thumbsucker:
“No I was surprised at the posts about one partner and so I showed how this would be if on the other foot. I didn't bring up the discussion but wanted it to be balanced. I'm actually a supporter of BOTH but it shows the reactions of certain posters if one partner is discussed rather than the other ”

Ok no problem - I will look forward to your future posts appreciating both Josie and John
mb35
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“I made no remark landm, I just grinned, and to be honest I am only interested in John and Josie be it as individuals.”

me too wendy, i couldnt give a flying fluff about gf or bf.....just johnjames and josie xxx
welshgirlwpq2th
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“Evening ladies ”

Evening , been to have my hair cut, I know I said ,could you take a little more off the fringe, but,omg
sbyres25
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by mb35:
“evening ladies xx

hi luv,
the weather doesnt sound good at all, just wrote your card today and jella couldnt make out the address you wrote, so we looked up google maps, so gawd only knows where your card will end up...but hope you get it ok...
the doctors sorting me out with new pills for the headaches and sore neck, so hopefully cross fingers they will work this time...
am looking forward to christmas,just wish i was finished shopping thats all.....would be so much better if people told you exactly what they would like, save all the guess work wouldnt it lol
love
kala xxxx



evening lyn xx”

aaw thanks kala...I'll look out for it. I haven't written all of mine yet. But I;ve got all the pressies, and my lovely daughter has most of them wrapped for me.

Hope the doc gets you sorted it's been going on far too long.

Trying to arrange a get together with Cathlyn, Peggy & Mrs. Nicky Wire for during the holidays. Needing a good blether.
andcb
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by jjjexhaustedfan:
“As far as I could see there weren't any double standards from you. Everyone was discussing a tweet that Josie had sent about Luke so the discussion was all on topic and nothing nasty said about Luke at all.



Good point. I do like John, but would not even think of looking at her facebook.

It is irrelevant to talk about balance, and I don't even think it is in the terms and conditions of an appreciation thread.

Obviously Josie tweets a lot, lot more than John. So does that mean every time Kaye posts a copy of Josie's tweet, she then has to find an old tweet of John to post to balance it out. No of course not - that would be ridiculous.

So naturally there is going to be a lot more talk about Josie than John.

That's the way it is for the time being, and not a lot anyone can do about
.”

BIB I agree
NicLau08
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by jjjexhaustedfan:
“As far as I could see there weren't any double standards from you. Everyone was discussing a tweet that Josie had sent about Luke so the discussion was all on topic and nothing nasty said about Luke at all.



Good point. I do like John, but would not even think of looking at her facebook.

It is irrelevant to talk about balance, and I don't even think it is in the terms and conditions of an appreciation thread.

Obviously Josie tweets a lot, lot more than John. So does that mean every time Kaye posts a copy of Josie's tweet, she then has to find an old tweet of John to post to balance it out. No of course not - that would be ridiculous.

So naturally there is going to be a lot more talk about Josie than John.

That's the way it is for the time being, and not a lot anyone can do about.”

Evening Alma
Wendilums
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by jjjexhaustedfan:
“As far as I could see there weren't any double standards from you. Everyone was discussing a tweet that Josie had sent about Luke so the discussion was all on topic and nothing nasty said about Luke at all.



Good point. I do like John, but would not even think of looking at her facebook.

It is irrelevant to talk about balance, and I don't even think it is in the terms and conditions of an appreciation thread.

Obviously Josie tweets a lot, lot more than John. So does that mean every time Kaye posts a copy of Josie's tweet, she then has to find an old tweet of John to post to balance it out. No of course not - that would be ridiculous.

So naturally there is going to be a lot more talk about Josie than John.

That's the way it is for the time being, and not a lot anyone can do about.”

Evening Alma Never a truer word spoken. Your post is exactly how I see it. If there was more news on John we could talk about him more, and we would
Wendilums
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by welshgirlwpq2th:
“Evening , been to have my hair cut, I know I said ,could you take a little more off the fringe, but,omg ”

Oh no Welshy, I always just ask for a tidy up and then trim it myself if it gets too long in between cuts. Evening
sbyres25
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by jjjexhaustedfan:
“As far as I could see there weren't any double standards from you. Everyone was discussing a tweet that Josie had sent about Luke so the discussion was all on topic and nothing nasty said about Luke at all.



Good point. I do like John, but would not even think of looking at her facebook.

It is irrelevant to talk about balance, and I don't even think it is in the terms and conditions of an appreciation thread.

Obviously Josie tweets a lot, lot more than John. So does that mean every time Kaye posts a copy of Josie's tweet, she then has to find an old tweet of John to post to balance it out. No of course not - that would be ridiculous.

So naturally there is going to be a lot more talk about Josie than John.

That's the way it is for the time being, and not a lot anyone can do about.”

Evening Alma.....well said.

How are you?
ferfer
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by landm:
“i think josie meant he wasn't a happy chappy last week i.e the LOL(thinking it would told in this week's now mag)not realising now mag is not out this week(although someone said it might be out tomorrow).And when she realised the mag isn't out yet she deleted the tweet.”

Common sense prevails!

Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“Actually thumbsucker, the best way to keep this thread balanced is to keep to the two people we appreciate only - Josie and John James. Sowwy but that's how it is.”

Originally Posted by landm:
“not having a go wendi,but that's not fair to thumbsucker,you and deb's had just made remark's about luke.(i can't bring those post's forward coz i can't multi quote)”

Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“I made no remark landm, I just grinned, and to be honest I am only interested in John and Josie be it as individuals.”

Seriously? You don't see this....

Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“”

...as positive reinforcement for her post that mocks Luke?

Originally Posted by thumbsucker:
“No I was surprised at the posts about one partner and so I showed how this would be if on the other foot. I didn't bring up the discussion but wanted it to be balanced. I'm actually a supporter of BOTH but it shows the reactions of certain posters if one partner is discussed rather than the other ”

Your words fall on deaf ears. There is no comprehension of the hypocrisy. It's sad really.



Originally Posted by jjjexhaustedfan:
“As far as I could see there weren't any double standards from you. Everyone was discussing a tweet that Josie had sent about Luke so the discussion was all on topic and nothing nasty said about Luke at all.



Good point. I do like John, but would not even think of looking at her facebook.

It is irrelevant to talk about balance, and I don't even think it is in the terms and conditions of an appreciation thread.

Obviously Josie tweets a lot, lot more than John. So does that mean every time Kaye posts a copy of Josie's tweet, she then has to find an old tweet of John to post to balance it out. No of course not - that would be ridiculous.

So naturally there is going to be a lot more talk about Josie than John.

That's the way it is for the time being, and not a lot anyone can do about.”

I would look back to Old Girl's post from this weekend and you may find the most balanced, fair post of someone who is not involved in anything on this thread, it mentions this topic.
sbyres25
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by welshgirlwpq2th:
“Evening , been to have my hair cut, I know I said ,could you take a little more off the fringe, but,omg ”

Evening welshy.. oh no.
Wendilums
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by ferfer:
“Common sense prevails!







Seriously? You don't see this....



...as positive reinforcement for her post that mocks Luke?



Your words fall on deaf ears. There is no comprehension of the hypocrisy. It's sad really.





I would look back to Old Girl's post from this weekend and you may find the most balanced, fair post of someone who is not involved in anything on this thread, it mentions this topic.”


I don't know how a grin constitutes a remark - but as I said Ferfer this is the JJJAT and we appreciate them both as individuals, not the JJSAT or the JLAT - enough said and I would not want to talk about girl on here either - which I have made quite clear in all my previous posts
irishlaurels
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by sbyres25:
“I'm fine Eileen thanks. Just this bliddy weather getting me down. Had a power cut last week for 2 days.

Hope it doesn't strike 3 times. (the flu I mean) ”

The worse thing is Joyce,this is just the start of it We have had no water for the last six days....have to travel 2miles to get to a standpipe.
ferfer
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“I don't know how a grin constitutes a remark - but as I said Ferfer this is the JJJAT and we appreciate them both as individuals, not the JJSAT or the JLAT - enough said and I would not want to talk about girl on here either - which I have made quite clear in all my previous posts ”

Yes, but the POINT is that Luke is mentioned on here in negative ways and 1. you post 3 grinning faces. That is showing approval for the post. Please don't try to tell me it doesn't.

And 2. Sherrie is mentioned and that's not allowed.

LOL, it's hypocrisy. Plain and simple. The exact same when Josie is talked about negatively here constantly and it's okay and expressing an opinion. But if John is, people jump down the poster's throat.


I seriously think some people need to take a step back. Just because "group think" is in place, doesn't mean the group's thoughts are right.
thumbsucker
13-12-2011
I have to be honest how can you appreciate two people if you don’t appreciate their current partners, you can STILL appreciate them BOTH. I believed the posts were sarcastic and I wanted to show what would happen if it was done the other way around. I think I proved what would happen and DID. As an outsider and a new poster it’s very obvious when this happens and so I wanted to point this out. Its no big deal but you really don't appreciate them both if you pull their partners apart IMO.
sbyres25
13-12-2011
I'm off to watch a DVD.....The Three Muskateers.

BBL. xxx
queenbdeb
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by ferfer:
“Common sense prevails!







Seriously? You don't see this....



...as positive reinforcement for her post that mocks Luke?



Your words fall on deaf ears. There is no comprehension of the hypocrisy. It's sad really.





I would look back to Old Girl's post from this weekend and you may find the most balanced, fair post of someone who is not involved in anything on this thread, it mentions this topic.”

where did i mock bf all i said he mite not be happy coz josie woz talking about x bf i dident mock no one thank u
ferfer
13-12-2011
Originally Posted by Old Girl:
“Thank you for this response which has enabled me to tag your post to give a general comment. I find it unbelievable that Johns actions on twitter are so lightly dismissed on here and that any opinion that is not favourable to the image people have painted of him is so quick;y dismissed.Meanwhile any comment or action by Josie is quickly dissected to death with all her negative attributes keenly discussed with people justifying it by stating its "only my opinion".However anyone who tries to counterbalance the debate is accussed of coming onto the thread to cause trouble. Ferfer has fought a lone battle at times and I am ashamed to say I sat and watched it as she was questioned time and again about why she comes on the JJJ thread when she supports Josie.

My earlier post was mainly ignored or dismissed quickly so I state again that in my opinion because John has tweeted the Shania song before and deleted it, it is far more likely the quote is from that song then any other. He has also not been shy on more then one occasion to tweet references to domestic violence and imply there was more to it and he is happy for people to believe this about Josie. I have no doubt that in his sheltered spoilt [his words] upbringing a thrown lipstick was viewed as an act of violence however to browbeat,argue and talk someone down is perfectly acceptable and not seen as mental and emotional torture. He admitted himself in BB that he upset his father when he argued with a family friend who was visiting and his own mother locked herself in the toilet to escape his constant arguing. Thankfully there are still people out there who believed he pushed Josie to her limit, was it wrong to throw something at him, yes but It's equally wrong to be constantly drained by someone who is argumentative and very clever with words and actions.Johns actions and words since the split have had far more implications for Josie then her words and actions about him.She has never implied she has come right out and said what she thought.His perception of domestic violence differs from mine and others who have suffered true acts of violence. It is cruel and unfair of him to allow the perception to continue by the use of cleverly chosen songs,quotes and winks!. He wanted to watch the wheels go round but what he has done is left 162,000+ followers sitting on a bus whilst he pops off the bus to watch the wheels go round only occasionally popping back on when it suits him.He uses twitter as a weapon of communication a bit like Josie uses her column. The difference is people on here refuse to see wrong in John and make every excuse under the sun to justify his actions whilst not even attempting to disguise the fact that they do not offer Josie the same courtesy........ Its nice to see that there are still a few people that see the elephant in the room and are not afraid to challenge when need be.Of course you like I will be dismissed as haters [which I can assure you I am not] this is an open forum and I cannot sit and see John painted as a saint He was as guilty as Josie was of ending that relationship but not once has he accepted any of the blame. I watch and loved the JJJ romance I believed it would last but it didn't. Sometimes in life you fall in love deeply with someone who is meant to be in your life for only a short time. This is what happened with JJJ instead of accepting this they both become bitter about the break up and it consumed their happy memories of each other.I do believe Josie has put it behind her and found someone that makes her happy i hope the same for John. I also hope that sometimes people would not be so judgemental about Josie and accept that sometimes johns actions are not as innocent as you make them out to be.Its time to notice the elephant in the room and not dismiss it as if it wasn't there!

I read this thread every day and in the main love all of your posts but times I have been angry at negative comments made about Josie. I understand that she has remained in the limelight therefore there is more to talk about Josie then John. However when there has been times that Johns actions could make interesting debate the conversation is nipped in the bud and posters like ferfer and thumbsucker etc are run out of town!

I bid you goodnight I promise I will not post again please do not label me hater or troublemaker simply a member of DS who happens to disagree with some opinions on here.

I have an appreciation of what was once but is now no more”

I wish people would read this with an open mind. This poster is not one who has any preconcieved notions of anyone. What she posted is spot on...

...as it's happening again today.
suebloore
13-12-2011
im back tea eaten, wasnt to bad
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