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Old 01-01-2014, 14:55
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New Year's Day - BBC Two Wales

Scrum V Live: Cardiff Blues v Newport Gwent Dragons

Ross Harries presenting from the Cardiff Arms Park alongside Tom Shanklin and Stephen Jones from The Sunday Times, with Sean Holley in the analysis truck

Commentators: Gareth Charles, Jonathan Davies and Martyn Williams

Reporter: Phil Steele

Not in front of a TV at the moment, but I don't think there's any Red Button Welsh language commentary today as Final Score will be taking priority on that platform. Happy New Year everyone.
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Old 01-01-2014, 23:17
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New Year's Day - Sky Sports 1 and Sky 3D

PDC World Darts Championship Final Live: Peter Wright v Michael van Gerwen

Dave Clark presented from the Alexandra Palace alongside Wayne Mardle, Rod Harrington, Eric Bristow (pre-match only) and John Part (post-match only)

Sky Sports commentators: Stuart Pyke and John Part (sets 1 to 4); Rod Studd and Wayne Mardle (set 5 onwards)

Sky 3D commentators: Nigel Pearson (whole match) with Wayne Mardle (sets 1 to 4) and John Part (set 5 onwards)

Rod Studd conducted the post-match interviews with the players on the stage, while Stuart Pyke interviewed PDC Chairman Barry Hearn to announce the Premier League participants for 2014.
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Old 02-01-2014, 11:21
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Confirmed on Sport On The Box that BBC coverage of the darts is hosted by Colin Murray ( excellent ) with Rob Walker and commentary by Tony Green, Vassos Alexander and Jim Proudfoot again.
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Old 02-01-2014, 14:14
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New Year's Day - Sky Sports 1 and Sky 3D

PDC World Darts Championship Final Live: Peter Wright v Michael van Gerwen

Dave Clark presented from the Alexandra Palace alongside Wayne Mardle, Rod Harrington, Eric Bristow (pre-match only) and John Part (post-match only)

Sky Sports commentators: Stuart Pyke and John Part (sets 1 to 4); Rod Studd and Wayne Mardle (set 5 onwards)

Sky 3D commentators: Nigel Pearson (whole match) with Wayne Mardle (sets 1 to 4) and John Part (set 5 onwards)

Rod Studd conducted the post-match interviews with the players on the stage, while Stuart Pyke interviewed PDC Chairman Barry Hearn to announce the Premier League participants for 2014.

Excellent work! However, didn't Stuart Pyke replace Nigel Pearson on 3D from Set 5 onwards? I'm sure it was the first two on the main Sky Sports 1 channel, on 3D from Set 5?

Just a shame Wayne Mardle wasn't stuck in the Studio, rather than viewers on both platforms having to put up with him! He really gets on my nerves! How many major titles did he ever win?! Legend, my foot!
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Old 02-01-2014, 14:46
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Excellent work! However, didn't Stuart Pyke replace Nigel Pearson on 3D from Set 5 onwards? I'm sure it was the first two on the main Sky Sports 1 channel, on 3D from Set 5?

Just a shame Wayne Mardle wasn't stuck in the Studio, rather than viewers on both platforms having to put up with him! He really gets on my nerves! How many major titles did he ever win?! Legend, my foot!
Like any sport not necessarily the best/champion can be great pundits/comms. Martin Brundle in F1 for instance.

Although I still haven't got liking Mardle. He is ok in the studio. Maybe time the put Harrington to bed. Even Bristow. Have Mardle as permanent studio pundit along side someone like Part who does studio/commentary.

Only time I could bare Mardle in the comm box was alongside Croft. It's poor show at the moment going from Waddell and Lanning/Gwynne to Rod 'average' Studd and Wayne Mardle as lead comms.

LOVE Croft to feature in F1 Gaps more frequently.

For me it would be (in order)...
Pearson, Part, Croft (if free), Pyke, Studd. Even with Jim Proudfoot back on Sky freelancing on their Champions League and voicing highlights on FL72, get him in there!
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Old 02-01-2014, 15:22
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Like any sport not necessarily the best/champion can be great pundits/comms. Martin Brundle in F1 for instance.

Although I still haven't got liking Mardle. He is ok in the studio. Maybe time the put Harrington to bed. Even Bristow. Have Mardle as permanent studio pundit along side someone like Part who does studio/commentary.

Only time I could bare Mardle in the comm box was alongside Croft. It's poor show at the moment going from Waddell and Lanning/Gwynne to Rod 'average' Studd and Wayne Mardle as lead comms.

LOVE Croft to feature in F1 Gaps more frequently.

For me it would be (in order)...
Pearson, Part, Croft (if free), Pyke, Studd. Even with Jim Proudfoot back on Sky freelancing on their Champions League and voicing highlights on FL72, get him in there!
or try Paul N he did well when he did it for ESPN and the aussie one for Fox Sports too
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Old 02-01-2014, 15:41
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or try Paul N he did well when he did it for ESPN and the aussie one for Fox Sports too
Heard a few people say he did fairly well on 5 Live last night aswell
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Old 02-01-2014, 16:12
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Like any sport not necessarily the best/champion can be great pundits/comms. Martin Brundle in F1 for instance.

Although I still haven't got liking Mardle. He is ok in the studio. Maybe time the put Harrington to bed. Even Bristow. Have Mardle as permanent studio pundit along side someone like Part who does studio/commentary.

Only time I could bare Mardle in the comm box was alongside Croft. It's poor show at the moment going from Waddell and Lanning/Gwynne to Rod 'average' Studd and Wayne Mardle as lead comms.

LOVE Croft to feature in F1 Gaps more frequently.

For me it would be (in order)...
Pearson, Part, Croft (if free), Pyke, Studd. Even with Jim Proudfoot back on Sky freelancing on their Champions League and voicing highlights on FL72, get him in there!


We are regular contributors to the Football Commentators Thread, and we know that certain co-commentators there who are the best, were not the greatest players, or even the best known, so I totally understand your point there. Like in any Sport, you will get people who were never the greatest in their profession, but will be brilliant analysts/commentators. Wayne Mardle does not fit into that bracket IMO, he was not the greatest player, and certainly a very annoying commentator on PDC Darts IMHO, at times I feel he talks a lot of rubbish. Just the Studio for me, for Mardle.

It just shows the huge hole left in Sky's Darts commentary since the retirement of Lanning, the passing of Waddell, and Gwynne stopping, just concentrating on his Football reports/updates for Soccer Saturday/Special.

Not overly fussed on Studd, ok at best. Pyke, Part, Pearson are all good, Croft is as well (get him in when there is a break for F1). That isn't a bad shout for Proudfoot doing some commentary on Darts, if not clashing with any European commentaries/voiceover work/Absolute Radio commitments. Harrington is not too bad in the Studio, and I can't see Bristow being jibbed, he can be ok.
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Old 02-01-2014, 19:48
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Excellent work! However, didn't Stuart Pyke replace Nigel Pearson on 3D from Set 5 onwards? I'm sure it was the first two on the main Sky Sports 1 channel, on 3D from Set 5?
You could well be right - to be honest, I only watched the coverage on Sky Sports 1 and so had to search around for information about the Sky 3D coverage. I know Nigel and Wayne opened the Sky 3D commentary as Dave Clark announced them at the start of the match, and John will have swapped with Wayne at the start of the fifth set, but I'm not entirely sure whether Nigel will have covered the whole match or if Stuart will have taken over from him.

From reading another darts forum, I got the impression that Nigel was still commentating during the latter stages of the match but I and that could well be wrong - I'd appreciate confirmation either way if anyone knows for certain.

On the subject of the PDC World Darts Championship Final, as has been mentioned BBC Radio 5 Live provided the first full live radio commentary on the event since Talk Radio covered the 2000 final. ITV4 darts commentator John Rawling commentated with PDC player Paul Nicholson, with WBA & IBF world super middleweight boxing champion Carl Froch joining them during the third and fourth sets, Phil Williams presenting and Lynsey Hooper reporting from among the fans. Rawling was a strong choice from what I heard but I'm slightly surprised the BBC went with him if only because he's not scheduled to commentate on the BDO World Championship for BBC TV. Should BBC TV be light on semi-final Saturday at the Lakeside this year if Jim Proudfoot is committed to his usual Premier League football commentary job on Absolute Radio (as was the case last year), perhaps Rawling could be drafted in to commentate in his absence.
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Old 03-01-2014, 16:15
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You could well be right - to be honest, I only watched the coverage on Sky Sports 1 and so had to search around for information about the Sky 3D coverage. I know Nigel and Wayne opened the Sky 3D commentary as Dave Clark announced them at the start of the match, and John will have swapped with Wayne at the start of the fifth set, but I'm not entirely sure whether Nigel will have covered the whole match or if Stuart will have taken over from him.

From reading another darts forum, I got the impression that Nigel was still commentating during the latter stages of the match but I and that could well be wrong - I'd appreciate confirmation either way if anyone knows for certain.

On the subject of the PDC World Darts Championship Final, as has been mentioned BBC Radio 5 Live provided the first full live radio commentary on the event since Talk Radio covered the 2000 final. ITV4 darts commentator John Rawling commentated with PDC player Paul Nicholson, with WBA & IBF world super middleweight boxing champion Carl Froch joining them during the third and fourth sets, Phil Williams presenting and Lynsey Hooper reporting from among the fans. Rawling was a strong choice from what I heard but I'm slightly surprised the BBC went with him if only because he's not scheduled to commentate on the BDO World Championship for BBC TV. Should BBC TV be light on semi-final Saturday at the Lakeside this year if Jim Proudfoot is committed to his usual Premier League football commentary job on Absolute Radio (as was the case last year), perhaps Rawling could be drafted in to commentate in his absence.
Paul Nicholson is very good, he did very well for ESPN.. and he did well for Fox Sports too,
and Rawling would be a good thing if JP wasnt around for the semi's..
anyway moving on
Ping Pong World Championship Saturday and Sunday Sky Sports
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Old 03-01-2014, 19:29
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Ospreys v Scarlets (RaboDirect Pro 12 RU)

Gareth Roberts hosting (at first from one of the changing rooms) from the Liberty stadium, with Dafydd Jones, Derwyn Jones and Brynmor Williams. Commentary from Huw Llewellyn Davies and Dr. Gwyn Jones. Nick Webb and Tom Shanklin are on Red Button english language duty.
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Old 04-01-2014, 00:00
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and Rawling would be a good thing if JP wasnt around for the semi's..
On John Rawling, this from a Twitter exchange between Mike Holt (one of the producers of BBC Radio 5 Live's PDC World Championship Final coverage) and Colin Murray...


Mike Holt ‏@MikeHolt12
@ColinMurray Amazing! Happy New Year to you & Carly mate. We did the Darts last night. It was brilliant on the radio. JR was awesome.

Colin Murray @ColinMurray
@MikeHolt12 excellent. He's doing some bdo I think
Of course that might just mean that John Rawling will be reporting on the BDO World Championship for Radio 5 Live, what with their long-time radio correspondent Vassos Alexander now part of the television commentary team, but if he's at the Lakeside in any capacity I'm sure BBC TV would at the very least be open to putting him on commentary duty on semi-final Saturday should Jim Proudfoot be absent.
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Old 04-01-2014, 07:02
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On John Rawling, this from a Twitter exchange between Mike Holt (one of the producers of BBC Radio 5 Live's PDC World Championship Final coverage) and Colin Murray...




Of course that might just mean that John Rawling will be reporting on the BDO World Championship for Radio 5 Live, what with their long-time radio correspondent Vassos Alexander now part of the television commentary team, but if he's at the Lakeside in any capacity I'm sure BBC TV would at the very least be open to putting him on commentary duty on semi-final Saturday should Jim Proudfoot be absent.
Excellent. Rawling is a very good all rounder
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:39
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Excellent. Rawling is a very good all rounder
He's excellent on pretty much every sport on which I've heard him commentate, with the exception of football. He was awful there.
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Old 04-01-2014, 13:45
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He's excellent on pretty much every sport on which I've heard him commentate, with the exception of football. He was awful there.
That's a bit harsh. John Rawling wasn't the best football commentator on TV or radio (he covered the 2010 World Cup for talkSPORT as well as doing bits for The Championship on ITV), but he made a passable effort at it. Describing him as an awful football commentator is too strong in my opinion.
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Old 04-01-2014, 14:09
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That's a bit harsh. John Rawling wasn't the best football commentator on TV or radio (he covered the 2010 World Cup for talkSPORT as well as doing bits for The Championship on ITV), but he made a passable effort at it. Describing him as an awful football commentator is too strong in my opinion.
As much as you are try and bring positivity about everything and everyone, I think for once I have to say he was very poor and add to the awful category! However at least he is good on other sports.
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Old 04-01-2014, 15:11
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Not trying to bring positivity to everything here - I genuinely thought John Rawling was OK as a football commentator. And I type this as someone who was dead set against him being parachuted into the talkSPORT commentary line-up at the last World Cup despite having very little previous history with the station (and nothing subsequently as it turned out) ahead of commentators who had reported for the station for many years.

But from what I heard of him on there and on ITV, I thought he was passable. While certainly he was far from being one of the better football commentators out there, I have heard many who are much worse than he was. He didn't have me reaching for the off switch, that's for sure. But I think we'd all agree that he is best suited to boxing and athletics, although has done well as a darts commentator since being given the chance to cover that sport.
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Old 04-01-2014, 15:40
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Not trying to bring positivity to everything here - I genuinely thought John Rawling was OK as a football commentator. And I type this as someone who was dead set against him being parachuted into the talkSPORT commentary line-up at the last World Cup despite having very little previous history with the station (and nothing subsequently as it turned out) ahead of commentators who had reported for the station for many years.

But from what I heard of him on there and on ITV, I thought he was passable. While certainly he was far from being one of the better football commentators out there, I have heard many who are much worse than he was. He didn't have me reaching for the off switch, that's for sure. But I think we'd all agree that he is best suited to boxing and athletics, although has done well as a darts commentator since being given the chance to cover that sport.
One thing I can give you or will say. John Rawling was a better footy comm than Trevor Harris!
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Old 05-01-2014, 21:48
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NFL Wildcard Sunday

Kevin Cadle, Jeff Rheinbold and Neil Reynolds in the studio

San Diego @ Cincinnatti - Jim Nantz & Phil Simms with Tracey Woolfson on the sideline

San Fransisco @ Green Bay - Joe Buck & Troy Aikman with Pam Oliver on the sideline
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Old 05-01-2014, 22:07
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Sky Sports Wild Card Saturday

Kevin Cadle, Jeff Rheinbold, Neil Reynolds in the studio.

Kansas City @ Indianapolis NBC - Dan Reeves & Mike Mayock, Alex Flanagan on the sideline.

New Orleans @ Philadelphia NBC - Al Micheals & Chris Collinsworth, Michele Tafoya on the sideline.
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Old 06-01-2014, 09:41
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Sky Sports Wild Card Saturday

Kevin Cadle, Jeff Rheinbold, Neil Reynolds in the studio.

Kansas City @ Indianapolis NBC - Dan Reeves & Mike Mayock, Alex Flanagan on the sideline.
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Old 07-01-2014, 14:14
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Quite right. Don't know where I got Reeves from!

Looking ahead to the Divisional playoffs, I see that Dan Dierdorf will be colour commentator for the Colts @ Patriots game on Saturday night/Sunday morning.

This will be Dan's last assignment for CBS before he retires after 30 seasons with various networks. I think he is one of the great colour commentators in the NFL. I regard him as highly as John Madden. I remember his Monday Night Football appearances for ABC alongside Al Micheals and Frank Gifford in the late 80's and early 90's, including the Giants v Bills Superbowl matchup in 1991.

I'll miss his commentary's next season. Enjoy your retirement Dan.

For the record - Greg Gumbel will be Play by play announcer, Dan Dierdorf will be colour commentator and Allie LaForce will be the sideline reporter. Coverage in the UK will be on Sky Sports 3, Kickoff at 01:15am.
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:41
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Tennis Live EurosportHD
Federer vs Tsonga


i think its A.Castle commertating with bradnam..

does this mean Castle will be with Eurosport for The aussie open as this is being played on the main court for charity
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Old 08-01-2014, 11:11
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Tennis Live EurosportHD
Federer vs Tsonga


i think its A.Castle commertating with bradnam..

does this mean Castle will be with Eurosport for The aussie open as this is being played on the main court for charity
Hard to say. David Mercer is on BT this week but I would expect him to be back for the Australian Open.
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Old 08-01-2014, 11:57
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NFL Divisional Playoffs Weekend

Saturday 11th January

New Orleans @ Seattle - Kevin Burkhardt and John Lynch with Erin Andrews on the sideline.

Indianapolis @ New England - Greg Gumbel and Dan Dierdorf with Allie LaForce on the sideline

Sunday 12th January

San Fransisco @ Carolina - Joe Buck, Troy Aikman with Pam Oliver on the sideline

San Diego @ Denver - Jim Nantz, Phil Simms with Tracey Wolfson on the sideline

Looking forward to the sideline reports.
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