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Sports Commentators (non-football) (Part 2)
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nicktrow
09-03-2015
Skeleton & Bobsleigh Highlights - Monday 9th March (BBC Two)

World Championships - Winterberg 2015

Presented by Mathew Pinsent with Amy Williams.

Commentators: Martin Havens & Amy Williams (Skeleton). Martin Havens & John Morgan (4 Man Bob).

All the Skeleton runs were shown live on the BBC website and connected tv app. The womens runs 3 & 4 were also shown live on the red button.
All the 4 Man Bob runs were also shown on the BBC website and connected tv app. A full replay of runs 3 & 4 were shown on the red button on Sunday 8th March in the evening.
The Difference
09-03-2015
Sunday 8th March - BBC Two Wales

Scrum V Sunday

Ross Harries presented alongside Sean Holley and Mark Jones, with Bethan Clement

Guinness Pro12
Scarlets v Leinster - Gareth Charles
Ospreys v Munster - Andy Moore and Sean Holley (as S4C Red Button)
Newport Gwent Dragons v Ulster - Bethan Clement (voiceover), with commentary from Nick Webb and Dafydd James (as S4C Red Button)
Cardiff Blues v Connacht - Gareth Charles and Jonathan Davies, with Bethan Clement (part voiceover)

Principality Premiership
Saturday round-up - Bethan Clement

Bethan Clement also voiced Did You See That? and a round-up of the Wales Women's Six Nations campaign so far, before interviewing the WRU's Women's National Manager Caroline Spanton in the studio

Feature on Bristol RFC's Welsh playing and coaching contingent (including interviews with Ryan Jones, Dwayne Peel, Ian Evans, Gareth Maule, Sean Holley, Danny Wilson and Andy Robinson) - Bethan Clement
Interview with Peter Stringer on Ireland v Wales - Ross Harries
Interview with Scott Baldwin - Ross Harries

They were back in the usual Scrum V studio rather than the rugby club-style set and closed the show with a Wales v Ireland montage accompanied by the poem Now and Then by Owen Sheers as read by the actress Erin Richards.
The Difference
13-03-2015
Tuesday 10th to Friday 13th March - Channel 4

Channel 4 Racing: The Cheltenham Festival

Clare Balding presented from the course with Mick Fitzgerald, Alice Plunkett, Rishi Persad and Ted Walsh

Nick Luck presented from the studio with Jim McGrath and Graham Cunningham

Commentator: Simon Holt

Betting: Tanya Stevenson and Brian Gleeson

Alastair Down and Nick Lightfoot contributed pre-recorded features and interview pieces, while Gina Harding was involved in the competition if nothing else. Once again, excellent coverage of the Festival from Channel 4 Racing.
The Difference
13-03-2015
Friday 13th March - BBC Two Wales and BBC Red Button

Scrum V Live: Wales Under-20s v Ireland Under-20s

Ross Harries presenting from Eirias Park alongside Martyn Williams and Nigel Davies

Commentators: Gareth Charles and Sean Holley

Red Button commentators: Gareth Rhys Owen and Steffan Hughes (sylwebaeth yn Gymraeg)

Reporter: Phil Steele
nicktrow
13-03-2015
Originally Posted by The Difference:
“Tuesday 10th to Friday 13th March - Channel 4

Channel 4 Racing: The Cheltenham Festival

Clare Balding presented from the course

Nick Luck presented from the studio”

Just to add that it has been reported in the Racing Post that Nick Luck will host the Grand National this year. No big name signing to replace Clare Balding.
Darren Lethem
13-03-2015
Originally Posted by The Difference:
“Tuesday 10th to Friday 13th March - Channel 4

Channel 4 Racing: The Cheltenham Festival

Clare Balding presented from the course with Mick Fitzgerald, Alice Plunkett, Rishi Persad and Ted Walsh

Nick Luck presented from the studio with Jim McGrath and Graham Cunningham

Commentator: Simon Holt

Betting: Tanya Stevenson and Brian Gleeson

Alastair Down and Nick Lightfoot contributed pre-recorded features and interview pieces, while Gina Harding was involved in the competition if nothing else. Once again, excellent coverage of the Festival from Channel 4 Racing.”

You think ? I am finding it very elitist at the moment. Nick Luck is a decent enough presenter and a pleasant chap I am sure but he is so removed from the man in the street it is untrue. Channel 4 have lost the common touch. Its all about the middle classes now and sod those that go in the bookies. I much preferred it as it was.
OMc
14-03-2015
LV Cup Rugby - Saturday 14 March (Sky Sports 3)

Semi-Final - Saracens v Northampton Saints

James Gemmell at Allianz Park with Brad Barritt and Ben Foden.

Commentators: Johnnie Hammond & Matt Perry

Reporter: Bill Latham
The Difference
14-03-2015
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“You think ? I am finding it very elitist at the moment. Nick Luck is a decent enough presenter and a pleasant chap I am sure but he is so removed from the man in the street it is untrue. Channel 4 have lost the common touch. Its all about the middle classes now and sod those that go in the bookies. I much preferred it as it was.”

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the old Channel 4 Racing set-up under Highflyer, but the new set-up is what it is and I liked what I saw of their coverage of Cheltenham this week. Yes, they don't really have someone who excels at being the person among the punters aside from during the betting pieces, which is an area where I think they could improve, but I think their team out on the course do a good job of interviewing the trainers, owners, jockeys and people who work with the horses. I can see what you mean about C4R lacking the spark it had before the change of production company, but I think it's too strong to describe the current set-up as elitist.

I don't have a problem with Nick Luck, he does a solid job in the studio keeping Statler and Waldorf...sorry Jim and Graham in check , doesn't dominate and I don't think it's solely his responsibility to connect with the "man in the street" - are Clare, Rishi, Alice or Mick Fitz any better at doing this than him? As for the strong positives of their coverage, Simon Holt is a fantastic commentator and superb voice for the sport of horse racing and Alastair Down's features on great past winners of each day's featured race were really well made and put together.

On the point on Nick Luck replacing Clare Balding as Channel 4 Racing's lead presenter at Aintree from the Grand National, now unless the C4R set-up is vastly different to the way it is arranged for Cheltenham or the other big meetings I've watched (I must confess I don't get to see much of that meeting due to work), how would this work?

One of the good things about Channel 4 Racing as it is now I think is that no one personality dominates - it certainly hasn't been the Clare Balding show as some had feared it would become, she gets about as much screen times as Rishi and Alice do on the course, Mick gets with the jockeys and Nick and the studio team do analysing races. As such I'm not sure how Nick would fill the void left by Clare - do you remove him from the studio, have him out on the course and have someone else with Jim and Graham, or do you remove Clare's role effectively by sharing the interviews she tends to do between Alice, Rishi and Mick and having Nick lead the presentation from the studio?

I'm not quite sure how this will work, I know I would have liked to have seen Alastair Down brought in to do the links with Mick and Ted Walsh and post-race interviews with trainers and owners, while perhaps making Rishi and Alice slightly more prominent in their roles due to Clare's absence.
coventrywooo
14-03-2015
Originally Posted by The Difference:
“Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the old Channel 4 Racing set-up under Highflyer, but the new set-up is what it is and I liked what I saw of their coverage of Cheltenham this week. Yes, they don't really have someone who excels at being the person among the punters aside from during the betting pieces, which is an area where I think they could improve, but I think their team out on the course do a good job of interviewing the trainers, owners, jockeys and people who work with the horses. I can see what you mean about C4R lacking the spark it had before the change of production company, but I think it's too strong to describe the current set-up as elitist.

I don't have a problem with Nick Luck, he does a solid job in the studio keeping Statler and Waldorf...sorry Jim and Graham in check , doesn't dominate and I don't think it's solely his responsibility to connect with the "man in the street" - are Clare, Rishi, Alice or Mick Fitz any better at doing this than him? As for the strong positives of their coverage, Simon Holt is a fantastic commentator and superb voice for the sport of horse racing and Alastair Down's features on great past winners of each day's featured race were really well made and put together.

On the point on Nick Luck replacing Clare Balding as Channel 4 Racing's lead presenter at Aintree from the Grand National, now unless the C4R set-up is vastly different to the way it is arranged for Cheltenham or the other big meetings I've watched (I must confess I don't get to see much of that meeting due to work), how would this work?

One of the good things about Channel 4 Racing as it is now I think is that no one personality dominates - it certainly hasn't been the Clare Balding show as some had feared it would become, she gets about as much screen times as Rishi and Alice do on the course, Mick gets with the jockeys and Nick and the studio team do analysing races. As such I'm not sure how Nick would fill the void left by Clare - do you remove him from the studio, have him out on the course and have someone else with Jim and Graham, or do you remove Clare's role effectively by sharing the interviews she tends to do between Alice, Rishi and Mick and having Nick lead the presentation from the studio?

I'm not quite sure how this will work, I know I would have liked to have seen Alastair Down brought in to do the links with Mick and Ted Walsh and post-race interviews with trainers and owners, while perhaps making Rishi and Alice slightly more prominent in their roles due to Clare's absence.”

i dont like Rishi on racing, so im glad he wont be at the grand national either... as he will be in the USA for the Masters which he is good at..
pakokelso93
14-03-2015
Rishi Persad for me is one of the most underrated broadcasters, does a great job whatever the sport.
OMc
14-03-2015
RBS 6 Nations - Saturday 14 March (BBC One)

Round 4 - Wales v Ireland

Gabby Logan at the Millennium Stadium with Martyn Williams, Keith Wood and Shane Williams.

Commentators: Eddie Butler, Phillip Matthews & Jonathan Davies

Reporter: Sonja McLaughlan
pakokelso93
14-03-2015
Originally Posted by OMc:
“RBS 6 Nations - Saturday 14 March (BBC One)

Round 4 - Wales v Ireland

Gabby Logan at the Millennium Stadium with Martyn Williams, Keith Wood and Shane Williams.

Commentators: Eddie Butler, Phillip Matthews & Jonathan Davies

Reporter: Sonja McLaughlan”

Captioned 'Edward Butler' the day!
OMc
14-03-2015
RBS 6 Nations - Saturday 14 March (BBC One)

Round 4 - England v Scotland

John Inverdale at Twickenham with Jeremy Guscott, Andy Nicol and Sir Clive Woodward.

Commentators: Andrew Cotter, Brian Moore & Chris Paterson

Reporter: Jill Douglas
realwales
14-03-2015
Originally Posted by pakokelso93:
“Captioned 'Edward Butler' the day!”

He is now known professionally as Edward and will be credited as such in future.
Alex2606
14-03-2015
Originally Posted by pakokelso93:
“Captioned 'Edward Butler' the day!”

Originally Posted by realwales:
“He is now known professionally as Edward and will be credited as such in future.”

That explains it, as I noticed Gabby name checked him as Edward when handing over for the second half
OMc
14-03-2015
Any guesses for next weekend's 6N commentators?

Presumably
Bruce-Ball/McNamara and Jiffy in Rome
Cotter, Matthews and Nicol/Paterson at Murrayfield
Butler and Moore at HQ

I assume they have a replica trophy ready for each venue?
Darren Lethem
14-03-2015
Originally Posted by The Difference:
“Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the old Channel 4 Racing set-up under Highflyer, but the new set-up is what it is and I liked what I saw of their coverage of Cheltenham this week. Yes, they don't really have someone who excels at being the person among the punters aside from during the betting pieces, which is an area where I think they could improve, but I think their team out on the course do a good job of interviewing the trainers, owners, jockeys and people who work with the horses. I can see what you mean about C4R lacking the spark it had before the change of production company, but I think it's too strong to describe the current set-up as elitist.

I don't have a problem with Nick Luck, he does a solid job in the studio keeping Statler and Waldorf...sorry Jim and Graham in check , doesn't dominate and I don't think it's solely his responsibility to connect with the "man in the street" - are Clare, Rishi, Alice or Mick Fitz any better at doing this than him? As for the strong positives of their coverage, Simon Holt is a fantastic commentator and superb voice for the sport of horse racing and Alastair Down's features on great past winners of each day's featured race were really well made and put together.

On the point on Nick Luck replacing Clare Balding as Channel 4 Racing's lead presenter at Aintree from the Grand National, now unless the C4R set-up is vastly different to the way it is arranged for Cheltenham or the other big meetings I've watched (I must confess I don't get to see much of that meeting due to work), how would this work?

One of the good things about Channel 4 Racing as it is now I think is that no one personality dominates - it certainly hasn't been the Clare Balding show as some had feared it would become, she gets about as much screen times as Rishi and Alice do on the course, Mick gets with the jockeys and Nick and the studio team do analysing races. As such I'm not sure how Nick would fill the void left by Clare - do you remove him from the studio, have him out on the course and have someone else with Jim and Graham, or do you remove Clare's role effectively by sharing the interviews she tends to do between Alice, Rishi and Mick and having Nick lead the presentation from the studio?

I'm not quite sure how this will work, I know I would have liked to have seen Alastair Down brought in to do the links with Mick and Ted Walsh and post-race interviews with trainers and owners, while perhaps making Rishi and Alice slightly more prominent in their roles due to Clare's absence.”

There are positives. Simon Holt, for me, is the best commentator on sport full stop at the moment. He is excellent at what he does. I have always loved Alice and her enthusiasm and she seems a genuinely lovely person. Mick Fitz is a great addition to the line up but I find Graham Cunningham dull and he doesn't bring out the best in Jim McGrath like John Francome did. Most of all I miss Fat Al and Thommo. They made the day humorous too. Its all too straight laced now.
The Difference
14-03-2015
Originally Posted by Alex2606:
“That explains it, as I noticed Gabby name checked him as Edward when handing over for the second half”

I noticed that too. Must say it was an excellent commentary today from all three members of the commentary team on probably the best game of this year's Six Nations. I even enjoyed Phillip Matthews' contributions!
clever3000
14-03-2015
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“There are positives. Simon Holt, for me, is the best commentator on sport full stop at the moment. He is excellent at what he does. I have always loved Alice and her enthusiasm and she seems a genuinely lovely person. Mick Fitz is a great addition to the line up but I find Graham Cunningham dull and he doesn't bring out the best in Jim McGrath like John Francome did. Most of all I miss Fat Al and Thommo. They made the day humorous too. Its all too straight laced now.”

As much as i like Simon Holt i did enjoy Aussie Jim McGrath's commentaries more on the BBC, on the opinion of Nick Luck he seems to have a very high opinion of himself and views the viewer as beneath him, secondly i find him to be a very bland presenter although he does have a vast knowledge of the sport.

The studio analysis always feels disjointed from the coverage and does detract from the feel of the event, it would be far better to speak about it in the paddock for instance.
The Difference
15-03-2015
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“There are positives. Simon Holt, for me, is the best commentator on sport full stop at the moment. He is excellent at what he does. I have always loved Alice and her enthusiasm and she seems a genuinely lovely person. Mick Fitz is a great addition to the line up but I find Graham Cunningham dull and he doesn't bring out the best in Jim McGrath like John Francome did. Most of all I miss Fat Al and Thommo. They made the day humorous too. Its all too straight laced now.”

That's funny, as I find Graham Cunningham slightly the easier to warm to of the Statler and Waldorf-esque studio duo as he doesn't moan and groan quite so much. Jim McGrath can be a bit too curmudgeonly for my liking at times and is the member of the C4 team that I find the most difficult to warm to. I don't get why Nick Luck attracts the stick he does when it comes to the studio set-up, I think he's underrated and is good at reigning them in when needs be.

I do miss Alastair Down and Derek Thompson too, both are big losses to the Channel 4 Racing line-up. I didn't listen to that much of their coverage this or last year, but it's good to be able to hear Thommo working for Radio 5 Live at Cheltenham and it's nice to see him popping up in shot on C4 conducting his radio interviews. As for Al Down, if they are happy to have him voicing those excellent features, what's stopping them from using him in a greater, possibly on-screen capacity, particularly at the smaller meetings and when others are away?
Darren Lethem
15-03-2015
Originally Posted by clever3000:
“As much as i like Simon Holt i did enjoy Aussie Jim McGrath's commentaries more on the BBC, on the opinion of Nick Luck he seems to have a very high opinion of himself and views the viewer as beneath him, secondly i find him to be a very bland presenter although he does have a vast knowledge of the sport.

The studio analysis always feels disjointed from the coverage and does detract from the feel of the event, it would be far better to speak about it in the paddock for instance.”

That is a very good point and to prove it, yesterday the studio team were in Cheltenham whilst the on course team were in Uttoxeter. Just shows they could be anywhere.
Ian Cleverly
15-03-2015
Wales v Ireland (RBS Women's 6 Nations)

Alun Jenkins and Non Evans for the S4C rygbi website.
OMc
15-03-2015
LV Cup Rugby - Sunday 15 March (Sky Sports 3)

Semi-Final - Leicester Tigers v Exeter Chiefs

Rupert Cox at Welford Road with Lewis Moody and Dean Mumm.

Commentators: Mark Robson & Dewi Morris

Reporter: Bill Latham
OMc
15-03-2015
RBS 6 Nations - Sunday 15 March (BBC One/BBC Two Scotland)

Round 4 - Italy v France

John Inverdale at the Stadio Olimpico with Keith Wood, Jeremy Guscott and Carlo del Fava.

Commentators: Eddie Butler, Carlo del Fava & Andy Nicol

Reporter: Sonja McLauchlan
aberboy
15-03-2015
Originally Posted by realwales:
“He is now known professionally as Edward and will be credited as such in future.”

Back to Eddie on the graphics today though?
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