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Three people in a commbox is a terrible idea in any sport for me. Hate it in rugby.
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Three people in a commbox is a terrible idea in any sport for me. Hate it in rugby.
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Totally disagree, BT have the dynamics working really well, and it also means that when they get in a guest co-commentator there is a more experienced co-comm in there with them to fill some of the space.
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That is the problem. There is this obsession with 'filling' space now. TV commentary at times need the space to breath in likes of rugby and football. With every single second taken up with speech or some guy in a truck or whatever sometimes it is OTT.
I'm with Pako on the 3 man team not working as a rule. But I haven't seen enough of BT's Rugby coverage to have my opinion backed up. |
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That's why Richie Benaud was just so good on the cricket. Didn't say a word if it didn't add anything. Had been known to go a 30 minute stint without saying a word as part of the 3 man Channel 9 comm box.
I'm with Pako on the 3 man team not working as a rule. But I haven't seen enough of BT's Rugby coverage to have my opinion backed up. |
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In rugby league on Sky we sometimes have 5 in the box - Eddie, Stevo, Phil Clarke, AN Other and Stuart Cummings. Too much
Very good piece in Barry Davies autobiography about co commentators etc. Barry was only a fan of the co-comm summarising and not doing as much as they do now. He praises Trevor Brooking saying how good he was at grasping the role. He hates how the co comm now does almost half the match. |
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In rugby league on Sky we sometimes have 5 in the box - Eddie, Stevo, Phil Clarke, AN Other and Stuart Cummings. Too much
Very good piece in Barry Davies autobiography about co commentators etc. Barry was only a fan of the co-comm summarising and not doing as much as they do now. He praises Trevor Brooking saying how good he was at grasping the role. He hates how the co comm now does almost half the match. |
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Totally disagree, BT have the dynamics working really well, and it also means that when they get in a guest co-commentator there is a more experienced co-comm in there with them to fill some of the space.
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I like it on BT (and ESPN previously) but I hate it on Sky and the BBC where the 3rd man feels a bit pointless. Would rather Harrison and Barnes were left to themselves.
Wales v South Africa last year was a standout example of this for me, having watched the game in a busy venue I didn't actually realise they were using a South African analyst in addition to the main Welsh co-commentator given how little he contributed. I think that says it all! I haven't seen enough of BT Sport's rugby union coverage to form an opinion on it, but I'm told that generally the third man commentary teams they use work well, mainly because they pick their co-commentators from a small pool of regulars who are used to this style of commentary. I quite enjoy hearing multiple co-commentators on football, given how it's much more of a rarer thing in that sport and how generally you only tend to hear senior co-commentators employed together on more significant matches. |
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More on Sky's Rugby League coverage http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_...tevo-show.html
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Super Rugby - Saturday 20 June (Sky Sports 3)
Quarter-Final - Highlanders v Chiefs Rupert Cox in the studio with Sean Fitzpatrick and Michael Lynagh. Commentators: Tony Johnson, Justin Marshall & Jeff Wilson (as Sky Sport NZ) |
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Super Rugby - Saturday 20 June (Sky Sports 4)
Quarter-Final - Stormers v Brumbies James Gemmell in the studio with Thinus Delport and Michael Lynagh. Commentators: Owen Nkumane, Bob Skinstad & Robbie Kempson (as Supersport SA) Owen Nkumane is about as dreadful as they get. |
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Super Rugby - Saturday 20 June (Sky Sports 4)
Quarter-Final - Stormers v Brumbies James Gemmell in the studio with Thinus Delport and Michael Lynagh. Commentators: Owen Nkumane, Bob Skinstad & Robbie Kempson (as Supersport SA) Owen Nkumane is about as dreadful as they get. |
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SA commentary teams (bar Skinstad) are terrible compared to NZ / Aus.
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World Rugby Under 20s - Saturday 20 June (BT Sport 2)
Sarra Elgan in the studio with Nick Walshe. 3rd-Place Playoff - France v South Africa Commentators: Willie Los'e & Scott Hastings Final - New Zealand v England Commentators: Nick Mullins & Ben Kay |
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Final - New Zealand v England
Commentators: Nick Mullins & Ben Kay |
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World Rugby Under 20s - Saturday 20 June (BT Sport 2)
3rd-Place Playoff - France v South Africa Commentators: Willie Los'e & Scott Hastings |
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Also, BT really emphasising that Mullins & Kay are calling the game off-tube by having Kay make a brief studio appearance before the game.
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Also, BT really emphasising that Mullins & Kay are calling the game off-tube by having Kay make a brief studio appearance before the game.
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Having been watching the Queens coverage I have to say that John Inverdale isnt taking too well to the commentary role, he is only concerned with getting the co-commentator to answer questions that he is interested about and not what the viewer would want to know, also having him on the Murray vs Muller match was just awful as he is way too biased. The whole BBC coverage so far has been an Andy Murray Love Festival which it just shouldn't be.
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Having been watching the Queens coverage I have to say that John Inverdale isnt taking too well to the commentary role, he is only concerned with getting the co-commentator to answer questions that he is interested about and not what the viewer would want to know, also having him on the Murray vs Muller match was just awful as he is way too biased. The whole BBC coverage so far has been an Andy Murray Love Festival which it just shouldn't be.
Re the 3 commentators in sports, I think where it does make sense is the 6 Nations so you have someone representing each nation playing. |
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Re the 3 commentators in sports, I think where it does make sense is the 6 Nations so you have someone representing each nation playing.
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Having been watching the Queens coverage I have to say that John Inverdale isnt taking too well to the commentary role, he is only concerned with getting the co-commentator to answer questions that he is interested about and not what the viewer would want to know, also having him on the Murray vs Muller match was just awful as he is way too biased. The whole BBC coverage so far has been an Andy Murray Love Festival which it just shouldn't be.
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Well I was actually coming here to say how much I had enjoyed John Inverdale doing commentary.
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Super Rugby - Saturday 27 June (Sky Sports 1)
James Gemmell in the studio with Sean Fitzpatrick and Michael Lynagh. Semi-Final - Hurricanes v Brumbies Commentators: Grant Nisbett, Justin Marshall & Jeff Wilson (as Sky Sport NZ) Semi-Final - Waratahs v Highlanders Commentators: Greg Clark, Phil Kearns & Rod Kafer (as Fox Sports Aus) |
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