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Old 01-01-2013, 22:25
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I agree with this, I like Mardle but he should be in the studio as main analyst and not commentator but his balanced views are no suprise as he came through the BDO. I still love the BDO because it was my first Darts tournament I ever watched and the BDO is the grassroots of Darts, perhaps the Lakeside should be called the Amateur World Championships but I equally look forward to both PDC and BDO tournaments and long may they both reign
It isn't amatuer though, few professionals in it. There are a number of PDC players that aren't full time too. If you aren't in the top 30 you need a "proper" job too really.
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Old 01-01-2013, 22:31
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It isn't amatuer though, few professionals in it. There are a number of PDC players that aren't full time too. If you aren't in the top 30 you need a "proper" job too really.
Thats a good point man I was just saying that perhaps they both shouldn't say Professional World Championship but I love them both but after tonights PDC Final roll on Saturday for the Lakeside
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Old 01-01-2013, 22:32
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Thats a good point man I was just saying that perhaps they both shouldn't say Professional World Championship but I love them both but after tonights PDC Final roll on Saturday for the Lakeside
Too right. Will miss David Croft though
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Old 01-01-2013, 22:39
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So did Harrington and Bristow
I should of made myself clearer, Bristow and Harrington are 2 of the players who broke away from the BDO in 1992/1993 to form the PDC so they never seem as fair to the BDO as Mardle who only moved over in the early 2000s. For instance Bristow called the Lakeside Mickey Mouse Darts on commentary this year while Mardle is always very fair to the BDO.

Too right. Will miss David Croft though
Will indeed, I rate Crofty as the best darts commentator alongside Nigel Pearson and I hope Jim Proudfoot is as good as Darts Commentator as he is a football commentator as he was always brilliant on ESPN and Talksport
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Old 01-01-2013, 23:15
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Going back to Sunday's semi-finals...

Didn't have time to post the semi-final comms so......

Wade vs. van Gerwen : Stuart Pyke & John Gwynne
Taylor vs. van Barneveld : Rod Studd & Wayne Mardle
Rod Studd also did a bit of Wade and Van Gerwen, Gwynne did a bit of Taylor and Van Barneveld on HD.
I guess you meant to type 3D rather than HD Callum, as Sky Sports 1's semi-final commentators were as smurfs5 stated, with both pairings commentating on their matches from start to finish.

Over on Sky 3D, their commentary teams were Rod Studd and Wayne Mardle for Michael van Gerwen v James Wade and John Gwynne and Rod Harrington for Phil Taylor v Raymond van Barneveld.

To complete the details for Sky Sports 1/Sky 3D's coverage of tonight's final, Dave Clark conducted the post-match interviews with Phil Taylor and Michael van Gerwen on the stage.

I might be in the minority here, but I quite like Rod Studd and Wayne Mardle both individually and as a tandem. I think they have a nice rapport and share a similar sense of humour. That said, I must admit I would have preferred to hear the Sky 3D commentary tonight. While it was good of Sky to invite Dave Lanning back to commentate on the final, it would have been nice if he and John Gwynne had been doing so on the main Sky Sports 1 coverage.

Finally I'd like to thank smurfs5 and everyone else who has posted details of the Sky Sports commentary/coverage from the PDC World Championships on here over the past three weeks. I posted a lot of these details on here during previous tournaments but my work schedule meant I didn't get chance to watch very much of the 2013 event until the semi-finals and final, thus the information provided was much appreciated.
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Old 01-01-2013, 23:20
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I should of made myself clearer, Bristow and Harrington are 2 of the players who broke away from the BDO in 1992/1993 to form the PDC so they never seem as fair to the BDO as Mardle who only moved over in the early 2000s. For instance Bristow called the Lakeside Mickey Mouse Darts on commentary this year while Mardle is always very fair to the BDO.



Will indeed, I rate Crofty as the best darts commentator alongside Nigel Pearson and I hope Jim Proudfoot is as good as Darts Commentator as he is a football commentator as he was always brilliant on ESPN and Talksport
Proudfoot did commentary during the world
Masters and he was very good
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Old 01-01-2013, 23:55
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I guess you meant to type 3D rather than HD Callum,
I did thanks...

I never heard/seen the ending on 3D but enjoyed the early legs with Pyke and Pearson. For me Pyke, Gwynne and Pearson better 3...

I was a bit annoyed at the fact we couldn't of had 10-15 mins at least after the presentation so we could hear Dave Clark and co. Bristow would of been gloating at the 7-4 prediction!
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Old 02-01-2013, 13:50
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Going back to Sunday's semi-finals...





I guess you meant to type 3D rather than HD Callum, as Sky Sports 1's semi-final commentators were as smurfs5 stated, with both pairings commentating on their matches from start to finish.

Over on Sky 3D, their commentary teams were Rod Studd and Wayne Mardle for Michael van Gerwen v James Wade and John Gwynne and Rod Harrington for Phil Taylor v Raymond van Barneveld.

To complete the details for Sky Sports 1/Sky 3D's coverage of tonight's final, Dave Clark conducted the post-match interviews with Phil Taylor and Michael van Gerwen on the stage.

I might be in the minority here, but I quite like Rod Studd and Wayne Mardle both individually and as a tandem. I think they have a nice rapport and share a similar sense of humour. That said, I must admit I would have preferred to hear the Sky 3D commentary tonight. While it was good of Sky to invite Dave Lanning back to commentate on the final, it would have been nice if he and John Gwynne had been doing so on the main Sky Sports 1 coverage.

Finally I'd like to thank smurfs5 and everyone else who has posted details of the Sky Sports commentary/coverage from the PDC World Championships on here over the past three weeks. I posted a lot of these details on here during previous tournaments but my work schedule meant I didn't get chance to watch very much of the 2013 event until the semi-finals and final, thus the information provided was much appreciated.

No problem at all. Thanks for clearing that up.

What a fantastic tournament and while the void left by Sid Waddell was very noticable, the memories of him will always live on through the tournament's trophy named after him. He will never be replaced in the commentary box but you could just imagine what he would be behaving like when Winstanley hit his 9-darter and van Gerwen nearly did two 9-darters back-to-back and the van Gerwen-Lewis match as well.
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Old 02-01-2013, 14:34
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For me David Croft will be a big miss on the BDO coverage- I think Jim Proudfot will be good but Croft was superb.

With Sky I actually really enjoy Mardle and Studd. Initially I thought Mardle would be awful- but he has quickly become a very good commentator. For me the only commentator I don't really like is Nigel Pearson- shouts a bit too much for my liking. I wish Pyke and Gwynne had done the first 5 sets though, before Studd and Mardle.

On a slight tangent- I quickly compared some viewing figures from 2012 to 2010.Although I can't exactly remember- have the BARB stats reduced much in recent years- I thought there was a considerable reduction in viewing figures in 2012 from a quick glance!?
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Old 02-01-2013, 14:48
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On a slight tangent- I quickly compared some viewing figures from 2012 to 2010.Although I can't exactly remember- have the BARB stats reduced much in recent years- I thought there was a considerable reduction in viewing figures in 2012 from a quick glance!?
Per BARB last year's final on Mon 2 Jan 2012 got 728,000 programme average.

Yesterday's final got 1.20m programme average (per D.M.N. in Ratings Thread). That is the "overnight" figure - final official will be slightly higher - probably in range 1.25m to 1.30m. (Overnight peak was 1.44m at 10.15pm).

So that is a very big rise on last year.

We can't really do proper overall analysis of the final week until all official ratings are released.
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Old 02-01-2013, 15:25
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Obviously helped by the fact that Taylor was in the final.
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Old 02-01-2013, 16:00
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New Year's Day - RTL7 (Netherlands)

PDC World Darts Championship Final 2013: Phil Taylor v Michael van Gerwen

Marcel Maijer presented alongside Co Stompe and Raymond van Barneveld

Commentators: Frank Vischschraper and Jacques Nieuwlaat

Reporter: Arjan van der Giessen

I'm sure some of the darts fans who post on here will be interested to hear how Dutch television covered the final. Barney was a special studio guest for the final and quite a coup for the channel; it would be interesting to know what he had to say regarding his set-to with Taylor during their coverage last night. For the record, their studio presentation came from the Netherlands but I believe their commentary was done on-site.

Earlier in the tournament, RTL7 called upon Koert Westerman (whose day job is to provide comedy voiceovers for the Eredivise Live football channel) as their secondary presenter to Maijer, with Roland Scholten sharing some of the punditry workload with Co before he began his German TV duties after Christmas. RTL7's secondary commentary team was Albert Mantingh and (former Lakeside semi-finalist and ESPN UK pundit) Niels de Ruiter.

In Germany, SPORT1's commentary team for the final was Elmar Paulke and Roland Scholten. Not sure if they were on-site or not.
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Old 02-01-2013, 16:37
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That interesting that the final got a large audience. Helped by later start, and relative short end.

My quick comparison was:
World Grand Prix: w/e 14/10/12- Usual average around 145K
World Grand Prix w/e/ 10/10/10- Usual average around 190K
World Matchplay w/e/ 29/07/12- Usual around 150K, final 225K
World Matchplay w/e/ 25/7/10- Usual around 180K, final 466K

Decline of around 20-25%, albeit these are very, very rough statistics. I glanced at a couple of Premier League weeks and saw similar drops- very rough though as I don’t know who played who
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Old 02-01-2013, 16:54
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That interesting that the final got a large audience. Helped by later start, and relative short end.

My quick comparison was:
World Grand Prix: w/e 14/10/12- Usual average around 145K
World Grand Prix w/e/ 10/10/10- Usual average around 190K
World Matchplay w/e/ 29/07/12- Usual around 150K, final 225K
World Matchplay w/e/ 25/7/10- Usual around 180K, final 466K

Decline of around 20-25%, albeit these are very, very rough statistics. I glanced at a couple of Premier League weeks and saw similar drops- very rough though as I don’t know who played who
Interesting stats. I'm sure Sky would be very disappointed if there really is a significant fall in interest.

I don't follow darts that closely but it appears that the players involved do make a big difference. With this in mind the semis on Sunday featuring Taylor v Van Barneveld should also have rated very well.

Worth doing a comparison once the official ratings are out. Officials for w/e Sun 30 Dec 2012 should be out next Monday (unless delayed a bit due to holiday backlog).
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Old 04-01-2013, 23:34
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Friday 4th January - BBC Two Wales and BBCi

Scrum V Live: Ulster v Scarlets

Ross Harries presented alongside Jonathan Davies and Robert Jones

Commentators: Gareth Charles and Stuart Davies

Red button commentators: Rick O'Shea and Tom Shanklin with the RedZone; Lyn Davies and Rhodri Gomer Davies in Welsh

Reporter: Phil Steele

I didn't watch tonight as I was at the football, so have pulled this information off Scrum V's Twitter. Apologies if any of it is wrong! I presume the studio presentation and red button commentaries came from the BBC Wales studios in Llandaff rather than from Ravenhill.
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Old 04-01-2013, 23:58
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The studio did. No idea about Redzone.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:34
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Friday 4th January - BBC Two Wales and BBCi

Scrum V Live: Ulster v Scarlets

Ross Harries presented alongside Jonathan Davies and Robert Jones

Commentators: Gareth Charles and Stuart Davies

Red button commentators: Rick O'Shea and Tom Shanklin with the RedZone; Lyn Davies and Rhodri Gomer Davies in Welsh

Reporter: Phil Steele

I didn't watch tonight as I was at the football, so have pulled this information off Scrum V's Twitter. Apologies if any of it is wrong! I presume the studio presentation and red button commentaries came from the BBC Wales studios in Llandaff rather than from Ravenhill.
Over on BBC 2 NI

Presenter: Stephen Watson
With: Andy Ward & Bryn Cunningham
Commentators: Jim Neilly & Ryan Constable
Reporter: Gavin Andrews
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Old 05-01-2013, 16:43
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Presenter: Colin Murray
With: Bobby George
Reporter: Rob Walker

Commentators:
Robbie Green v Christian Kist - Vassos Alexander & Tony Green
Gary Robson v Garry Thompson - Jim Proudfoot & Vassos Alexander
Richie George v Dave Prins - Jim Proudfoot & Tony Green
Martin Atkins v Jason Cullen - Vassos Alexander & Tony Green

Great tribute paid by Tony Green to Sid Waddell at the top of the commentary of the first match.
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Old 05-01-2013, 21:58
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Presenter: Ray Stubbs
With: Scott Mitchell
Reporter: Nat Coombs

Commentators
Daryl Fitton v Benito van de Pas - Jim Proudfoot & Tony Green
Alan Norris v Wayne Warren - Jim Proudfoot & Vassos Alexander
Tony O'Shea v John Walton - Jim Proudfoot & Tony Green
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Old 06-01-2013, 16:21
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Stephen Bunting v James Wilson - Vassos Alexander & Tony Green
Steve Douglas v Gary Stone - Jim Proudfoot & Vassos Alexander
Martin Adams v Jimmy Hendricks - Jim Proudfoot & Tony Green
Scott Mitchell v Mark Barilli - Vassos Alexander & Tony Green
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Old 06-01-2013, 18:15
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Munster V Cardiff Blues (RaboDirect Pro 12 RU) (Saturday)

S4C - Gareth Roberts hosting from their Llanishen studio, with Garan Evans and Emyr Lewis as analysts. Commentary from Huw Llewellyn Davies and Dr. Gwyn Jones, with Cennydd Davies pitchside interviewer/reporter.
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Old 06-01-2013, 23:23
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World squash series: Sky Sports

Commentators:Trevor Harris and Joey Harrington
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Old 07-01-2013, 00:24
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Jan Dekker v Jeffrey van de Graaf - Jim Proudfoot & Vassos Alexander
Wesley Harms v Rune David - Jim Proudfoot & Vassos Alexander
Anastasia Dobromyslova v Lorraine Farlam - Jim Proudfoot & Tony Green
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Old 07-01-2013, 16:59
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Alex Payne having a beginning to forget whilst hosting Rugby union from Adams Park yesterday, as uploaded to that Youtube thingy.
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Old 07-01-2013, 17:10
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Jan Dekker v Jeffrey van de Graaf - Jim Proudfoot & Vassos Alexander
Wesley Harms v Rune David - Jim Proudfoot & Vassos Alexander
Anastasia Dobromyslova v Lorraine Farlam - Jim Proudfoot & Tony Green
who presented it last night was it Nat? as ray was on football?
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