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Sports Commentators (non-football) (Part 2)
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Darren Lethem
02-03-2013
Originally Posted by Ian Aberdon:
“Sorry if been previously mentioned, but I'm sure I've just heard Andrew Cotter on the Indoor Athletics, or on highlights of, on the BBC.”

He was number 2 commentator today too. He did plenty of the track events and Paul Dickenson was doing the field stuff
Ian Aberdon
02-03-2013
Originally Posted by Ian Aberdon:
“Sorry if been previously mentioned, but I'm sure I've just heard Andrew Cotter on the Indoor Athletics, or on highlights of, on the BBC.”

Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“He was number 2 commentator today too. He did plenty of the track events and Paul Dickenson was doing the field stuff”

Thanks. Certainly their 'go to' commentator just now - must have been impressed with his 'dash' at the rugby & thought he could do athletics too!
Hayden
02-03-2013
Originally Posted by Tony Yeboah:
“From the Racing Post: SIS has revealed the team planned to front the Sky Sports greyhound show that it will produce after a deal brokered by Bags returns the sport to TV screens next month.

George Irvine, MD SIS Betting, said: “I’m pleased to announce the following roles – presenters Jonathan Hobbs and Darrell Williams, Gary Wiltshire in the ring and Errol Blyth and Tony Ennis commentating."”

Has poor old Gary Newbon been axed from something else then?
Not much left for him to do now.
The Wanderer
02-03-2013
Originally Posted by Ian Aberdon:
“Thanks. Certainly their 'go to' commentator just now - must have been impressed with his 'dash' at the rugby & thought he could do athletics too! ”

He also did the Olympic men's 100m final for 3D viewers
Tony Yeboah
02-03-2013
Des Lynam article. Completely ignores the fact that BBC sports rights are diminishing so some commentators need to be versatile to maintain a living. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/990...o-experts.html

Saturday 9 March on RTE Two

Scotland v Wales and Ireland v France- Tom McGurk is joined by Bernard Jackman, Brent Pope, George Hook and Shane Horgan to present. With commentary by Hugh Cahill and Frankie Sheahan at Murrayfield and Ryle Nugent and Ralph Keyes at the Aviva Stadium
Gordie10
03-03-2013
Originally Posted by Tony Yeboah:
“Des Lynam article. Completely ignores the fact that BBC sports rights are diminishing so some commentators need to be versatile to maintain a living. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/990...o-experts.html”

Yeah - full of contradictions. Like saying commentators should specialise, but still implying Andrew Cotter is a decent commentator, even though he covers most sports the BBC cover. And saying Raymond Glendenning was an expert on "transmitting what he could see to the ear of the listener with great style", despite commentating on just about everything going.
coventrywooo
03-03-2013
has anyone been watch the snooker on ITV4
i think Neal Foulds has been excellent, and i wish BBC would use him more
i think if ITV broadcast this next year, have another co comm.
but this week Neal has shown hes probably the best snooker pundit out there...
pakokelso93
03-03-2013
Originally Posted by coventrywooo:
“has anyone been watch the snooker on ITV4
i think Neal Foulds has been excellent, and i wish BBC would use him more
i think if ITV broadcast this next year, have another co comm.
but this week Neal has shown hes probably the best snooker pundit out there...”

Not been watching a lot of it has Foulds been in the studio and in commentary? AKA not hiding they are offtube?
jwire1977
03-03-2013
A few recent cycling ones:

Rob Hatch has done the Tour of Langkawi round-up this week, attempted Le Samyn only for its coverage to be cancelled, as well as Strade Bianche for Eurosport yesterday, with co-commentator Brian Smith.

David Harmon and Sean Kelly doing Paris-Nice today.
coventrywooo
03-03-2013
Originally Posted by pakokelso93:
“Not been watching a lot of it has Foulds been in the studio and in commentary? AKA not hiding they are offtube?”

yea they were offtube,
i thought itv did good at it..
sporter92
03-03-2013
Originally Posted by pakokelso93:
“Not been watching a lot of it has Foulds been in the studio and in commentary? AKA not hiding they are offtube?”

I haven't seen much of it but the studio bits i have seen has had Foulds in the studio with Jill Douglas and at the end of play and itv4 coverage a few days Jill has thanked Neal Foulds for his work in the studio and the commentary of Peter Drury and Clive Everton upstairs in the box and well done to fellow ulsterman Mark Allen in winning the tournament.

In other news:
European Indoor Athletics - BBC Two & BBC HD
Presenter: Jonathan Edwards
With: Denise Lewis, Colin Jackson & Paula Radcliffe
Commentators: Steve Cram, Paul Dickinson & Andrew Cotter
Reporter: Phil Jones

The studio team joined the box during races as usual but for me it was suprising that Cotter was calling races and Dickinson was doing field events but I like Cotter so I didn't mind at all
Darren Lethem
03-03-2013
Originally Posted by sporter92:
“I haven't seen much of it but the studio bits i have seen has had Foulds in the studio with Jill Douglas and at the end of play and itv4 coverage a few days Jill has thanked Neal Foulds for his work in the studio and the commentary of Peter Drury and Clive Everton upstairs in the box and well done to fellow ulsterman Mark Allen in winning the tournament.

In other news:
European Indoor Athletics - BBC Two & BBC HD
Presenter: Jonathan Edwards
With: Denise Lewis, Colin Jackson & Paula Radcliffe
Commentators: Steve Cram, Paul Dickinson & Andrew Cotter
Reporter: Phil Jones

The studio team joined the box during races as usual but for me it was suprising that Cotter was calling races and Dickinson was doing field events but I like Cotter so I didn't mind at all”

Peter Drury only did the "second" match when there was another game going on at the same time of the live one, so we heard him during intervals etc. He wasnt involved at all when it went down to one table.

As a snooker commentator he is very good at football. Not his bag I feel.
Tony Yeboah
03-03-2013
More information on ITV's snooker coverage in David Hendon's blog
http://www.snookerscene.blogspot.co....orld-open.html

Incidentally, during the interval they screened some frames from Ronnie O'Sullivan v Stephen Hendry in the 1997 Charity Challenge Trophy Final with commentary from Jim Meadowcroft and Rex Williams.
sporter92
03-03-2013
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Peter Drury only did the "second" match when there was another game going on at the same time of the live one, so we heard him during intervals etc. He wasnt involved at all when it went down to one table.

As a snooker commentator he is very good at football. Not his bag I feel.”

I only seen matches with Clive and Neal on commentary and as expected they worked well but I heard Jill namechecking Peter at the end of programmes. Didn't catch as much of this as I would of liked with Uni and work but thanks for the information Darren
Tony Yeboah
03-03-2013
Saturday 16 March on BBC One

Italy v Ireland- Jason Mohammed is joined by Marco Bortolami to present. Commentary by Conor McNamara and Philip Matthews.

Wales v England- John Inverdale presents. Analysis from Clive Woodward, Jeremy Guscott and Jonathan Davies, with commentary by Eddie Butler and Brian Moore.
FusionFury
03-03-2013
Clive Tyldesly and Andy Townsend for the United-Madrid game on ITV with Keane, Southgate and Dixon as pundits?
Tony Yeboah
04-03-2013
Sunday 10 March on RTE Two

England v Italy- Tom McGurk is joined by Conor O'Shea, Donal Lenihan and Shane Horgan to present. Commentary by Hugh Cahill and Tony Ward
Tony Yeboah
04-03-2013
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“Yes, Hugh Porter was an absolutely superb commentator - especially as you say for casual viewers.

But he was making a huge number of mistakes towards the end. During the Olympic Men's Road Time Trial he made about 5 mistakes within a 10 minute period (I posted about it at the time) - he was simply incapable of reading the timing clock and knowing which clock / time was referring to which rider.

He is 73 now and there is no way he could have done another 4 years to the next Olympics so now had to be the right time to call it a day.

But still a very sad loss to broadcasting.”

Looks like it was the BBC's decision
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...f-cycling.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...r-old-men.html
Tony Yeboah
04-03-2013
Saturday 16 March on BBC Two

France v Scotland- Gabby Logan is joined by Andy Nicol to present, Commentary by Andrew Cotter and Lawrence Dallaglio.
The Difference
04-03-2013
Sunday 3rd March - BBC Two Wales

Scrum V

Ross Harries presented alongside Jonathan Davies and Martyn Williams

RaboDirect Pro12
Munster v Ospreys - Gareth Charles and Sean Holley*
Scarlets v Edinburgh - Gareth Charles and Tom Shanklin
Newport Gwent Dragons v Leinster - Nick Webb
Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues - Phil Steele

Principality Premiership
Llanelli v Llandovery - Phil Steele
Round-up - Ross Harries (reporting)

Preview of Scotland v Wales from Edinburgh, including interviews with Stuart Hogg and Scott Hastings - Ross Harries
Interview with Ian Evans - Gareth Rhys Owen

*Given that there was a (captioned) co-commentator with Charlo on the Saturday teatime game, I'm guessing that this was S4C's English language Red Button commentary from their live coverage of it.
sn_22
04-03-2013
Originally Posted by Tony Yeboah:
“Looks like it was the BBC's decision
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...f-cycling.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...r-old-men.html”

Predictable enough reaction from people who want a crack at the BBC, but they've made the right decision. I'm really fond of Hugh's commentaries, but I felt myself cringing on his behalf a little too much during the Olympics. A couple of races seemed to totally get away from him. I'm glad he got to commentate on 2012, but it's the start of a new Olympic cycle and only fair to Simon Brotherton to give him time to settle in.

So difficult for BBC managers to deal with if Porter didn't want to go. They went and broke it to him face-to-face, ran a good, dignified tribute on-air, and offered him a commentary gig at the Winter Olympics. Not sure what else they could have done?
Alex2606
05-03-2013
Originally Posted by Harfynn Teuport:
“Just as far as the Ian Ward situation is concerned, I'm 99% sure Lord Gower isn't going... that leaves Sky UK with no on-site presenter, only commentators/pundits. They could well be presenting from London, with only commentators on site, but if I recall correctly that's different from how they did it for the last NZ tour. I was making an educated guess that the team would look something like this:

Ward (in the Gower role)
Atherton
Willis
Lloyd
Botham
Knight
Guest (Doull?)

I don't know who else could fill the presenter role... Knight maybe? But it's not something he's done before.”

According to Sky Sports Twitter,

Ian Ward, Alec Stewart and Paul Collingwood will be in the studio with Botham, Lloyd, Atherton, Knight and Willis on commentary plus ''various New Zealand commentators"
Bhaveshgor
05-03-2013
Originally Posted by Alex2606:
“According to Sky Sports Twitter,

Ian Ward, Alec Stewart and Paul Collingwood will be in the studio with Botham, Lloyd, Atherton, Knight and Willis on commentary plus ''various New Zealand commentators"”

that is a pretty poor commentary team, Willis, Botham are Crap.
Lloyd starts to come in my nerves now, he talk too much crap these day, was one of my favorite comms before.
Knight tries to analysis the game too much and over complicates the game.
Atherton is the only good commentator going in this tour.
it will be pretty good if their use various tour commentators during the summer, especially when good commentators are only on TMS.
Hayden
05-03-2013
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“that is a pretty poor commentary team, Willis, Botham are Crap.
Lloyd starts to come in my nerves now, he talk too much crap these day, was one of my favorite comms before.
Knight tries to analysis the game too much and over complicates the game.
Atherton is the only good commentator going in this tour.
it will be pretty good if their use various tour commentators during the summer, especially when good commentators are only on TMS.”

Agreed - Willis' voice is shot these days so I'm amazed they have him on.
Knight and Botham are excruciating - I hope the excellent Ian Smith is one of the NZ commentators used.
redandwhiterob
05-03-2013
David Gower being pushed out or does the great man just pick and choose his games now

Ian Ward certainly seems to be the rising star of Sky sports and looks like he has become second presenter behind Gower and ahead of Colville
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