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Old 10-12-2011, 21:47
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What a nasty thing to say!
I'm not bitter, I just don't think she is a talented as she is portrayed. I like to see people go on a journey and triumph. Hence I was delighted when Chris Hollins won and I loved Pamela last year because she worked so hard to improve. Just not seeing any of that in Chelsee.
Harry has probably been on the biggest journey this year (for me) but obviously if you are a massive Chelsee fan you won't be able to see that!
I actually think she is boring to watch because she has maintained the same standard from the beginning.
Jason's standard has stayed the same, IMO. Chelsee and Harry have had journeys of equal standard. If saying Chelsee is a "little wannabe" (your own words) doesn't have a mild stench of bitterness about it, I don't know what does.
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Old 10-12-2011, 21:48
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I really felt the other dancers gave their all tonight but once again I failed to get any passion from Chelsee. I know a lot of people really rate her but for me she hasn't gone on a journey like the others.
Thought both Jason and Harry were both better than her tonight
I think its personal choice. I find Holly dead behind the eyes and sometimes her movement lacklustre but Chelsee in my opinion shows guts and determination and her enthusiasm when she gets it right makes me chuckle.
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Old 10-12-2011, 21:50
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I think Ive said before its all subjective - I cant make up my mind between Harry and Chelsee I love both of them. I also think they have both improved - moreso than Jason although he does work hard at it and comes across a bit too earnest. I think all three named deserve a place in the final and when it comes to next weekend Ill be rooting for Harry and Chelsee (assuming they are still in) and whichever performs the best (to me) on the night will at last become my absolute fave.
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Old 10-12-2011, 21:53
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Every time I post I get slagged off but I think she's poor
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Old 10-12-2011, 21:56
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Every time I post I get slagged off but I think she's poor
Pehaps you should go to Specsavers!
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Old 10-12-2011, 21:59
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Every time I post I get slagged off but I think she's poor
It seems that you are not permitted to say anything negative about Chelsee. If you do you open yourself up to all sorts of abuse.
It is a pity we can't have our own opinions without, as you say, getting slagged off
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:06
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They've all improved except Jason, who has been the same standard all the way through. I do think Chelsee struggles with the passion and intimacy of a dance - perhaps she's never been in love and finds it a bit awkward showing those emotions being so young ? I hope she can cope with a rumba next week if she gets through. She's an amazing dancer and her arm and hand placements are superb, as are her turns and spins.
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:08
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Every time I post I get slagged off but I think she's poor
You are not alone x
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:16
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They've all improved except Jason, who has been the same standard all the way through. I do think Chelsee struggles with the passion and intimacy of a dance - perhaps she's never been in love and finds it a bit awkward showing those emotions being so young ? I hope she can cope with a rumba next week if she gets through. She's an amazing dancer and her arm and hand placements are superb, as are her turns and spins.
They are dropping a dance probably so it will be that or VW.

In the Paso I barely noticed Pasha he really designed that for her to be centre of focus. I think with Craig said about her being vertically challenged does show in her shaping but they can't doc marks as she's short.
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:21
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Harry: excellent dancer - but any joie de vivre or gay abandon was completely lacking in that Charleston. The VW on the other hand, which doesn't call much emotion suited him down to the ground.

I love Chelsee but, have in the past, questioned her ability to portray the character of the dance - but tonight she proved me so wrong; she delivered in spades and should have topped the leaderboard.
Yes and yes.
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:23
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Please stop me if I'm being overcritical but was Chelsea's Paso Doble technically accurate? I'm only going by what I remember and I'm not a professional.
While it used elements of flamenco throughout I was under the impression that the woman was the 'cape in the bullfight' and that's why there's at least some utilization of the skirt as a major part of the dance. But in this it seemed to be ignored so technically wasn't it more of a flamenco? Whatever it was she danced it amazingly well, I just thought since Holly's was the first paso doble I'd seen to incorporate a flamenco style but she still used her skirt.

I'm too picky.
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:24
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They are dropping a dance probably so it will be that or VW.

In the Paso I barely noticed Pasha he really designed that for her to be centre of focus. I think with Craig said about her being vertically challenged does show in her shaping but they can't doc marks as she's short.
I wish they would compliment him more- Pasha has done some fantastic choreography every week and has not allowed Chelsee to hide at all- no removing of shirt by him to distract and no whirling round her.

I loved the AS tonight- very moving- liked the Paso too but would have swapped the marks round!

As to the no passion element- what has that to do with journey?? Also if you like Harry where has his passion been- he;s a lovely young chap but reserved is an understatement!

He did well tonight but his VW was much better than his charleston. Sure somehow he will be inthe final.
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:24
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Sorry just saying what I see, I thought that both Harry and Jason were outstanding and even Holly's AT was superb. Chelsee is just ordinary. Perhaps that is the risk you take when you come to the competition as a dancer already.
I like Jason but thought he was terrible tonight, in both dances. Thought 8s would have been a fair mark for his samba, let alone 10s

I loved Chelsee's paso
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:25
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It seems that you are not permitted to say anything negative about Chelsee. If you do you open yourself up to all sorts of abuse.
It is a pity we can't have our own opinions without, as you say, getting slagged off
Calling Chelsee a "little wannabe" should qualify as slagging someone off, IMO. Which you did.

There's no need for nastiness.
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:26
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Please stop me if I'm being overcritical but was Chelsea's Paso Doble technically accurate? I'm only going by what I remember and I'm not a professional.
While it used elements of flamenco throughout I was under the impression that the woman was the 'cape in the bullfight' and that's why there's at least some utilization of the skirt as a major part of the dance. But in this it seemed to be ignored so technically wasn't it more of a flamenco? Whatever it was she danced it amazingly well, I just thought since Holly's was the first paso doble I'd seen to incorporate a flamenco style but she still used her skirt.

I'm too picky.
They don't have to be the cape in other series they've said the woman can be a lover sort of role, a bull & cape. It's really what you want to story to tell.
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:26
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Please stop me if I'm being overcritical but was Chelsea's Paso Doble technically accurate? I'm only going by what I remember and I'm not a professional.
While it used elements of flamenco throughout I was under the impression that the woman was the 'cape in the bullfight' and that's why there's at least some utilization of the skirt as a major part of the dance. But in this it seemed to be ignored so technically wasn't it more of a flamenco? Whatever it was she danced it amazingly well, I just thought since Holly's was the first paso doble I'd seen to incorporate a flamenco style but she still used her skirt.

I'm too picky.
I believe (and Im no expert either) that it can be "the bullfighter and the cape" or, it can be "the bullfighter and the bull"? someone might correct me on that but thats the gist I have got after watching both DOI and SCD for some yrs.
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:30
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Every time I post I get slagged off but I think she's poor
Well it does seem more like a personal problem with her as she is obviously a good dancer. Maybe not great but she is more entertaining to watch then dullard Harry.
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:34
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it's probably her style but she's far too stompy for me and lacks grace and elegance which is why i thought holly had the advantage over her in spades. oh well...come on harry!
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:35
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Well it does seem more like a personal problem with her as she is obviously a good dancer. Maybe not great but she is more entertaining to watch then dullard Harry.
Ditto!
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:37
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As to the no passion element- what has that to do with journey?? Also if you like Harry where has his passion been- he;s a lovely young chap but reserved is an understatement!
Well, it's only my opinion but I think you can see the passion in Harry's dancing, Very definitely!
I can't see it in Alex but I can see it in Holly.
But if we all thought the same thing the programme would be boring.
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:40
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it's probably her style but she's far too stompy for me and lacks grace and elegance which is why i thought holly had the advantage over her in spades. oh well...come on harry!
Pretty much what a Paso should be then
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:40
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Calling Chelsee a "little wannabe" should qualify as slagging someone off, IMO. Which you did.

There's no need for nastiness.
Read my post. I was referring to all stage school kids. But it is you that became personally abusive to me in your posts.
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:41
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Well, it's only my opinion but I think you can see the passion in Harry's dancing, Very definitely!
I can't see it in Alex but I can see it in Holly.
But if we all thought the same thing the programme would be boring.
Fair enough but if you have an opinion then you have to be able to defend it when people disagree- and defend it without being personally detrimental really.

Anyway- I agree that on here we all have different opinions and I hope that Harry gets through to the final as it clearly means a lot to people that he is there.
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:54
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I loved Chelsee's Paso and could see the passion in it. I thought she deserved the four 10s (in context). She seems to really connect with most of the dances, so I can see it in most of her dances really. I think the only exceptions that springs to mind is the AT.
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Old 10-12-2011, 22:59
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She has been an actress since 2003 or since she was 14 years old so she has clearly gone down the stage school route. She seems more stage school than RADA to me. She would have been advised to take up dance in some form as they like to keep the options open for all the little wanabees.
Apparently not a stage school child, she went to Cannon Williamson School (a state comprehensive). Always worth checking things before making sweeping statements.

Loved both the AS & Pasha Doble but could see her back was giving her trouble in both dances.
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