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Will people PLEASE stop complaining!
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Damahepa
10-12-2011
Jason and Chelsee were just better than Harry tonight...

If Craig says it's a 10, then it's a 10! If he can be pedantic about everyone and then comes out with two 10s, it's because those dances were just better!

Harry fans, please, take off your rose tinted spectacles and accept defeat gracefully. Harry will get 40s when he deserves them, not when people shout loud enough!

So please, stop whining, and let's all enjoy decent dancing!
confuddled
10-12-2011
Jason was not better than harry, harry feels the music. jason feels superior.
isis333
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Damahepa:
“Jason and Chelsee were just better than Harry tonight...

If Craig says it's a 10, then it's a 10! If he can be pedantic about everyone and then comes out with two 10s, it's because those dances were just better!

Harry fans, please, take off your rose tinted spectacles and accept defeat gracefully. Harry will get 40s when he deserves them, not when people shout loud enough!

So please, stop whining, and let's all enjoy decent dancing!”

Applauds
Damahepa
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by confuddled:
“Jason was not better than harry, harry feels the music. jason feels superior.”

And you know that from meeting with Jason and experiencing this arrogance I assume...
squadge
10-12-2011
Harry hasn't gotten a 40 yet because he hasn't produced the same level of 'showmanship' yet. Technically he is miles ahead of Jason and yes, jason delivered a performance tonight but must admit most of the dancing was done by Christine. Still, exciting to watch. Harry needs to get that performance element..
Doghouse Riley
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Damahepa:
“Jason and Chelsee were just better than Harry tonight...

If Craig says it's a 10, then it's a 10! If he can be pedantic about everyone and then comes out with two 10s, it's because those dances were just better!

Harry fans, please, take off your rose tinted spectacles and accept defeat gracefully. Harry will get 40s when he deserves them, not when people shout loud enough!

So please, stop whining, and let's all enjoy decent dancing!”

I wouldn't usually comment on someone's grammar, but as you've issued an "instruction."

Look up the definition of the word "pedantic" it has nothing to do with what you've posted.
The voting by the judges was "tactical," his performance was all posturing and had very little dance content.
Kristina camouflaged his lack of ability with a terrific performance.
Smokeychan1
10-12-2011
Just think if we could combine Jason's passionate performances with Harry's natural rhythm and good looks. And that is just it. Both guys have something the other lacks, but I enjoyed all their routines tonight. Great show all round in fact.
Xassy
10-12-2011
I don't know why people are getting their knickers in a twist when it is quite clear Harry will win.
Damahepa
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by squadge:
“Harry hasn't gotten a 40 yet because he hasn't produced the same level of 'showmanship' yet. Technically he is miles ahead of Jason and yes, jason delivered a performance tonight but must admit most of the dancing was done by Christine. Still, exciting to watch. Harry needs to get that performance element..”

The man is supposed to support the lady... He got a solo which is more than Harry/most other men, celebs or professionals, get. The only possible exception is Vincent when dancing with Flavia- but if you expect anyone to be at Vincent's standard from a beginners start point, then his dances with Flavia just wouldn't be special!
janetcomelately
10-12-2011
Jason's 10 was more deserved that Chelsee's IMO. Chelsee seemed to lose her timing in the middle and her arm placement was not perfect.

Harry was fabulous in both dances but....Craig is about performance and Harry does lack that which is probably why he has not got a 10 yet.
Alli-F
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Damahepa:
“Jason and Chelsee were just better than Harry tonight...

If Craig says it's a 10, then it's a 10! If he can be pedantic about everyone and then comes out with two 10s, it's because those dances were just better!

Harry fans, please, take off your rose tinted spectacles and accept defeat gracefully. Harry will get 40s when he deserves them, not when people shout loud enough!

So please, stop whining, and let's all enjoy decent dancing!”


I don't care, I don't like any of them but I think you're the one wearing rose coloured spectacles hun. Just because the judges tell you it's a 40 doesn't mean it actually is!

Lisa Snowdon and Pamela Stephenson anyone?

The 10s and 40s given have so devalued the scores that they just don't mean anything anymore. Jason had to basically get his footwork right and he was going to get a 40, Craig's been gagging to give him a 10 since his jive went wrong.
ianswaiting
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“I wouldn't usually comment on someone's grammar, but as you've issued an "instruction."

Look up the definition of the word "pedantic" it has nothing to do with what you've posted.
The voting by the judges was "tactical," his performance was all posturing and had very little dance content.
Kristina camouflaged his lack of ability with a terrific performance.”

Don't talk such rot. Jason and Chelsea both put in brilliant performances to get their 40's. I was predicting 40's for both before the judges even opened their mouths...I did not do this with regard to Harry's performances that I thought were rather generously scored. And regardless of the 40's Harry is still top of the leaderboard so if it was tactical it didn't work did it (nor could it have done because after having got 39 for his 2nd dance Harry could not be beaten to the top spot on the leaderboard)
confuddled
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Damahepa:
“And you know that from meeting with Jason and experiencing this arrogance I assume...”

yes, you are right
Damahepa
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“I wouldn't usually comment on someone's grammar, but as you've issued an "instruction."

Look up the definition of the word "pedantic" it has nothing to do with what you've posted.
The voting by the judges was "tactical," his performance was all posturing and had very little dance content.
Kristina camouflaged his lack of ability with a terrific performance.”

Excuse me!

To the first bit in bold, Craig is naturally pedantic, or picky, or harsh, or however you call it, he is not unfair or tactical.

To the latter bit in bold, If you want to cry conspiracy please go watch a lesser show that appears on ITV with people skidding on Ice and leave the adults to discuss SCD, because if you want to call into question the integrity of 3 of the country's best dancing judges because some person in an office with a smart suit and a fancy pen tells them to like someone, then you clearly have less faith in humanity than is healthy
Doghouse Riley
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by ianswaiting:
“.///////////////// I was predicting 40's for both before the judges even opened their mouths..///////////////////////.”


Stop making me laugh.
Who are you?

Russell Grant?
ianswaiting
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“Stop making me laugh.
Who are you?

Russell Grant?”

No, thankfully. Just someone who spent many years competing in ballroom dancing competitions but your suggestion makes me wonder who you are.
TerryM22
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Xassy:
“I don't know why people are getting their knickers in a twist when it is quite clear Harry will win.”

I have resigned myself to this result now.
Smokeychan1
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“I wouldn't usually comment on someone's grammar, but as you've issued an "instruction."

Look up the definition of the word "pedantic" it has nothing to do with what you've posted.
The voting by the judges was "tactical," his performance was all posturing and had very little dance content.
Kristina camouflaged his lack of ability with a terrific performance.”

I don't believe this nonsense about tactical marking Doghouse. Craig always maintains he has to be true to himself and I really do believe he has more integrity than to be bought into giving false marks.

I couldn't breath throughout Jason and Kristina's routine, it was spellbinding...and Jason matched Kristina's intensity out on that dancefloor; a real dance partnership. For me it was a 40 dance, but performance is subjective and so if people didn't get the intensity then fair enough if they don't agree.

I also think some people need reminding that the contestant's are amateurs. Their "perfect" score has never, nor should be, equated to a professional's perfect score.
Damahepa
10-12-2011
So basically, taking Alesha and the sometimes eccentric Bruno out of the equation, what a lot of you are doing by dismissing Craig's 10s are calling him both fickle and a cheat!
Doghouse Riley
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by ianswaiting:
“No, thankfully. Just someone who spent many years competing in ballroom dancing competitions but your suggestion makes me wonder who you are.”


Were you that bad at it?

Well you started it, quoting my post!
Kablamo
10-12-2011
I do think it's fairly obvious that Craig is there as the villain and he only gave Jason a 10 so that he has a better chance to be in the final. Why? I don't know but it's a manipulation for some purpose.
Damahepa
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“Were you that bad at it?”

Your arrogance is quite alarming and rude! Please learn some manners before you comment again!
thenetworkbabe
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“I don't care, I don't like any of them but I think you're the one wearing rose coloured spectacles hun. Just because the judges tell you it's a 40 doesn't mean it actually is!

Lisa Snowdon and Pamela Stephenson anyone?

The 10s and 40s given have so devalued the scores that they just don't mean anything anymore. Jason had to basically get his footwork right and he was going to get a 40, Craig's been gagging to give him a 10 since his jive went wrong. ”

And he had only a small portion of Holly's steps to get right....
The judges seemed to want Jason in the final - and while there's a tour to follow its difficult to dismiss the suggestion that it may have something to do with who is on the tour and who isn't.

What on earth was Artem doing though giving Holly all those steps to remember and lots of gymnastics when she was already likely to be tired after the first routine. Chris Hollins and Ola showed how to get votes with a Charleston and difficulty a tiring routine and looking novel isn't it.
CaptainSensible
10-12-2011
I think people should keep complaining if that is what they want to do

If nobody ever disagreed with the judges (including Craig), then there wouldn't be much to discuss

I usually don't get bogged down in 9 v 10 or 39 v 40 discussions because I don't think it matters that much, but I was surprised by Craig's 10 for Chelsee because I thought there were flaws in her Paso that were much more obvious than the thing he (Craig) focused on in Harry's VW

I was expecting 8,9,10,9 or something instead of four 10s

(haven't looked at Jason's AT closely)
Alli-F
10-12-2011
Originally Posted by Damahepa:
“So basically, taking Alesha and the sometimes eccentric Bruno out of the equation, what a lot of you are doing by dismissing Craig's 10s are calling him both fickle and a cheat!”



No I'm calling him an actor in an entertainment show.

Jeez, I stopped taking the judges' words as gospel about 4 years ago.
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