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I think it's inevitable. If you loved Jason, you were likely to love this dance. If you already disliked him, he was never going to win you over and the marks were always going to seem unfair whatever he produced.
I probably didn't give Lisa Snowdon or Kelly Brook enough credit for some of their dancing because I was so turned off by their personalities at the time. Likewise, my Alesha- love probably clouded my judgement of some of her dances. Watching her Latin routines back, people were right, her legs did look quite messy at times. |
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I think it's inevitable. If you loved Jason, you were likely to love this dance. If you already disliked him, he was never going to win you over and the marks were always going to seem unfair whatever he produced.
I probably didn't give Lisa Snowdon or Kelly Brook enough credit for some of their dancing because I was so turned off by their personalities at the time. Likewise, my Alesha- love probably clouded my judgement of some of her dances. Watching her Latin routines back, people were right, her legs did look quite messy at times. Personally, I don't like Jason or Chelsee. I think Chelsee is a beautiful dancer but as people, I have no leanings one way or the other - they both annoy me in their own ways. I don't know if that affords me objectivity or not but IMO, neither of those dances last night were 40s. Jason's was 8s and Chelsee's was 9s - but that's in a world where only perfection should get 10s and that clearly isn't the case on SCD. |
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I really doubt I would have anything unappreciative enough to say, and I am smiling about it atm in more of an ironic semi snigger sort of way.
Some threads and topics are just not relevant to me apart from having a nose just out of curiosity sake, each to their own I guess. ![]() Oh, I dunno, I think you did a pretty good job there. ![]()
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I totally agree with everyone who said that was Kristina was the reason Jason got full marks last night. His performance wasn't perfection at all. Aliona has been criticised in the past for making the choreography all about her but couldnt help feeling Kristina did the same last night, obviously with the judges blessing as they all gave them full marks. Felt Harry was much better and deserved a 40 more than Jason did. I do like Jason but like fairness too. I think Kristina is more anxious to lift the glitter ball than he is.
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I think it's inevitable. If you loved Jason, you were likely to love this dance. If you already disliked him, he was never going to win you over and the marks were always going to seem unfair whatever he produced.
I probably didn't give Lisa Snowdon or Kelly Brook enough credit for some of their dancing because I was so turned off by their personalities at the time. Likewise, my Alesha- love probably clouded my judgement of some of her dances. Watching her Latin routines back, people were right, her legs did look quite messy at times. Even this year, where I have no favourite, I have degrees of dislike - from Holly who Ilike but is not the best dancer to Jason who I just can't/won't like.
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I enjoyed both dances but I personally wouldn't have given either full marks.
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I agree. Craig has been desperate to give Jason a 10 all series - what annoys me most is that the best AT of all time on Strictly, Mark Ramprakash and Karen, only got 39 because of Craig. That had real passion, not just strutting around. Kristina wasn't even that good!
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Hmmm. Now I've seen Jason's. I thought it was better overall than Chelsee's - the atmosphere, the acting, everything worked perfectly. Kristina did a spectacular job. I wouldn't have given it a 40 though, he didn't do enough to earn it.
That's exactly how I felt watching Jason dance the AT last night. Infact, I am not sure any contestant has put that much heart and soul into a performance; it left him totally spent. |
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I didn't think either dance deserved 40.
But Jason didn't do much and what he DID do wasn't outstanding. Kristina's desperation was evident. Talk about TRYING TOO HARD! Frankly he came over as a lech. Her fault. Choreography. But Chelsee's wasn't perfect. She doesn't always finish her armography and her balance isn't always the best. But I don't recoil from her the way I do from Jason. I like her. |
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I think it's inevitable. If you loved Jason, you were likely to love this dance. If you already disliked him, he was never going to win you over and the marks were always going to seem unfair whatever he produced.
I probably didn't give Lisa Snowdon or Kelly Brook enough credit for some of their dancing because I was so turned off by their personalities at the time. Likewise, my Alesha- love probably clouded my judgement of some of her dances. Watching her Latin routines back, people were right, her legs did look quite messy at times. If we are not judging choreo then Jason 40 and Chelsee 38/36 (I found a lot of technical problems). If we are judging choreo then Chelsee 39 and Jason 38/36. |
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I didn't think either dance deserved 40.
But Jason didn't do much and what he DID do wasn't outstanding. Kristina's desperation was evident. Talk about TRYING TOO HARD! Frankly he came over as a lech. Her fault. Choreography. But Chelsee's wasn't perfect. She doesn't always finish her armography and her balance isn't always the best. But I don't recoil from her the way I do from Jason. I like her. |
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I could understand her getting 40 (but it could have been 39) but Jason's 40 just puzzled and amazed me. I expected maybe 36, four 9's. I think the judges decided they wanted him in the final rather than Holly and that would put him there ahead of her.
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Wasn't he supposed to be a lecherous ? Isn't the AT usually about some gaucho in a bodega looking for a lady of easy virtue ?
I find them intimate, soulful and romantic even if we follow the strictly narrative I doubt many lady of easy virtues would choose a serial killing gaucho |
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i tend to think that a lot of getting a 40 for jason was down to the sheer passion and desperation that kristina threw into that AT. jason was basically a frame for her to hang herself on. she basically got him that 40. ...though of course a good amount of strength and balance was required of jason..so he did well there.
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Agreed, its so OTT it is actually funny, first time its made me smile so far.![]()
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well that is what Len says but if I were you I would look at some proper AT on you tube
I find them intimate, soulful and romantic even if we follow the strictly narrative I doubt many lady of easy virtues would choose a serial killing gaucho Anyway, I will check out YouTube as you say. |
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I could understand her getting 40 (but it could have been 39) but Jason's 40 just puzzled and amazed me. I expected maybe 36, four 9's. I think the judges decided they wanted him in the final rather than Holly and that would put him there ahead of her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxxokZ9oUT0 |
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I think it was Alesha's showdance that warranted the comment from Craig: "You danced as if your life depended on it."
That's exactly how I felt watching Jason dance the AT last night. Infact, I am not sure any contestant has put that much heart and soul into a performance; it left him totally spent. And both Kristina and Jason were dancing like that.
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i tend to think that a lot of getting a 40 for jason was down to the sheer passion and desperation that kristina threw into that AT. jason was basically a frame for her to hang herself on. she basically got him that 40. ...though of course a good amount of strength and balance was required of jason..so he did well there.
![]() For the record, I don't think Chelsee deserved a 40 last night either, lest you call me a jellus hatah.
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I was only commenting on the usual perception of the dance..don't the rather "suggestive" leg movements imply some kind of sexual tension..lust even ? But perhaps I'm letting my imagination run away with me there.
Anyway, I will check out YouTube as you say. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdU3eORpNhY It is sensual and romantic and even tender. |
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i tend to think that a lot of getting a 40 for jason was down to the sheer passion and desperation that kristina threw into that AT. jason was basically a frame for her to hang herself on. she basically got him that 40. ...though of course a good amount of strength and balance was required of jason..so he did well there.
If he had been wimpy and doe-eyed, with a fixed grin, imagine the flack he would have been getting on here ! |
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If you do, please watch this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdU3eORpNhY It is sensual and romantic and even tender. Jason and Kristina's AT was awesome as far as I am concerned, full of intensity and drama and well deserving of the full score in this type of show. So I appreciate what you are saying with regard to the perception of the dance......but it does vary somewhat. |
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If you do, please watch this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdU3eORpNhY It is sensual and romantic and even tender. |
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I think it was Alesha's showdance that warranted the comment from Craig: "You danced as if your life depended on it."
That's exactly how I felt watching Jason dance the AT last night. Infact, I am not sure any contestant has put that much heart and soul into a performance; it left him totally spent. Chelsee and Harry dance well but I see no passion in their performances. |
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Kristina certainly pulled out all the stops, but Jason had to play his part as well..and quite frankly, I didn't think he had that kind of performance in him before last night.
If he had been wimpy and doe-eyed, with a fixed grin, imagine the flack he would have been getting on here ! |
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Even this year, where I have no favourite, I have degrees of dislike - from Holly who Ilike but is not the best dancer to Jason who I just can't/won't like.