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Old 11-12-2011, 11:22
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Based on past form, no.

I think a woman has to be outstanding to win against a man, and I just don't think Chelsee is. I think it just comes down to what you like in a celeb. I usually go for the technician/most controlled dancer unless they are so unbelievably dull to watch that I'm bored (e.g. Ricky Whittle).

I could never vote for Chelsee because although she is perfect for 90% of the routine, there are moments where she loses control for a second and wobbles, especially if she has to quickly stop or change direction. I find Harry's flaws detract much less from my enjoyment of the dance.

They've both been topping the leaderboard the last few weeks so we don't know anything about their public vote. But in such a situation, going into the final, I would always tip the man to win. Far worse male dancers than Harry have won in the past.
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Old 11-12-2011, 11:27
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...and I think it's Chelsee who is pulling in the votes; she has had a journey; the coupling is very popular; there are questions over a romance; she consistently puts in good performances and she's a shock for many people. But most importantly she has this forum's support - this forum is a much better guide to the winner on Strictly than any other reality show, even if the eliminations are a bit off at times. The likes of Tom, Chris and Kara had the strongest support on here and they won...and I expect Chelsee to follow this tradition.

But even if it's one of the others, I'm intrigued to whether another couple will be able to gain momentum to overtake the leader or whether it's a foregone conclusion.
I really hope it is Harry or Jason who win. I really feel the judges and the show have been pushing Chelsee to win. She is good but she certainly hasn't put the hours in the other two have - yes, I know she is working, but last year Matt Baker worked in the wee hours and gave up a lot of his family life to put in the effort. We keep getting clips of Chelsee on the phone and Pasha has mentioned it on more than one occasion.

It's not about the journey, it is about the effort that is put into something to achieve.

I guess I am just fed up with reality shows pushing certain people to win the show. . .
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Old 11-12-2011, 11:29
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Chelsee is a bit thick. That might appeal to Big Brother voters but it won't do her much good on SCD.

I'll be amazed if Harry doesn't win.
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Old 11-12-2011, 11:45
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Chelsee is a bit thick. That might appeal to Big Brother voters but it won't do her much good on SCD.

I'll be amazed if Harry doesn't win.
Really! Week in and week out she has learned and remembered some of the most complicated routines we've seen on SCD - let alone this series - unlike Harry who on more than one occasion only had to remember when to stand and sway whilst Aliona pranced around him.

As for the class of her supporters - well I won't go into my own background or qualifications (might sound like bragging) but suffice to say I have never watched Big Brother. Seems you know more about the programme than I do.

Anyway - prepare to be amazed.
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Old 11-12-2011, 11:46
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Chelsee is a bit thick. That might appeal to Big Brother voters but it won't do her much good on SCD.

I'll be amazed if Harry doesn't win.
good grief

just good grief

I do hope Chelsee win , not only has she put in effort(!!!) she has produced the most memorable stunning dances for me

I thought her AS last night was wonderful ( shame about the splits thing ) but it didn't break the mood for me

Harry is a wonderful dancer but has't moved me in one of his dances though I do amire his technique

Obviously others see more in Jason than I do but he is just inconsistant

ditto Holly who wowed me with her AT and then messed up her charleston

Alex is just outclassed tried hard but time to go now
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Old 11-12-2011, 11:48
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Really! Week in and week out she has learned and remembered some of the most complicated routines we've seen on SCD
WHILE filming intensively for Waterloo Road. Well said Ignazio. I really think that some of the abusive comments on here about Chelsee have gone too far. Her dancing is amazing and that is all I care about!
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Old 11-12-2011, 11:53
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I think Chelsee's too much of a marmite contestant to win, you either seem to strongly like or strongly dislike her - Harry is a lot more vote-friendly, as he's devastatingly inoffensive and a tight dancer with good looks to boot. There is no contest IMO. (Sorry Chelsee fans)

This forum is hit and miss in terms of getting it right, but mostly hit.
I don't agree with that, not anymore. I highly dislike her as a person - I think she's annoying, possibly completely stupid (as I speak she's questioning what 'vertically challenged' means), and behaves with irritating vapidity. But I can't deny that she's a stunning dancer and I forget that I dislike her when she gets on to the floor. I'll be voting for her.

Harry is so devastatingly inoffensive that I can't be bothered to pick up the phone.
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Old 11-12-2011, 12:13
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Chelsee is a bit thick. That might appeal to Big Brother voters but it won't do her much good on SCD.

I'll be amazed if Harry doesn't win.

Some of you Harry fans can be so nasty. I get really upset reading some of your comments. I had no idea Chelsee is such a threat to some of you. Makes me sad when I have to read low remarks as such.

Both Chelsee and Harry's chances are equal for next Saturday. It all depends on the dancing and how they perform.
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Old 11-12-2011, 12:14
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I don't honestly there is an obvious runaway winner this year in terms of "person who is the most likely to win from an objective standpoint." Unless both Holly and Jason make the final, there will be at least 2 contestants in the final who have never been bottom two so we don't really know how their votes compare. If neither Holly nor Jason make the final, we'll be in the same position we were last year with three finalists who all have proven public support and no easy way of telling how their voting figures stack up against each other.

I would guess that the final two would be Chelsee and Harry but a) I may be underestimating Alex voters b) Jason and/ or Holly may have picked up more votes since their spell in the bottom two (both have had stand out dances since then for many viewers) and c) I have no idea how to then logically separate Harry and Chelsee in terms of viewer votes. Both are similar to previous "types" of winner for this kind of reality show. Harry may pick up extra votes from Matt/ Aliona fans who feel Aliona deserves to win this year and not just come second again. Chelsee may pick up extra votes from viewers who like Zoe's and Tess' hints of possible romance between her and Pasha. At the beginning of the series I'd have said Harry had all the obvious advantages (male, young, good looking, naturally talented without being too competitive, southern/ middle class accent that many viewers would regard as neutral, active fan base) but Chelsee seems to have picked up a lot of supporters along the way, particularly from people (myself included) who weren't expecting to like her for one reason or another so I'm really not sure any more.

I like this, actually. I find it much more fun heading for the final without any clear idea of who will win; I found series 6 and 7 very dull once I was certain that, barring last minute upsets, Tom and Chris would win respectively.
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Old 11-12-2011, 12:15
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Some of you Harry fans are so nasty. I get really upset reading some of your comments. I had no idea Chelsee is such a threat to some of you. Makes me sad when I have to read low remarks as such.

Both Chelsee and Harry's chances are equal for next Saturday. It all depends on the dancing and how they perform.
It's not being nasty, it's making an observation. I am a Chelsee fan now but it's pretty hard to deny that she's the least intelligent person in the studio. It can be annoying sometimes but she makes up for it with her dances.
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Old 11-12-2011, 12:16
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WHILE filming intensively for Waterloo Road. Well said Ignazio. I really think that some of the abusive comments on here about Chelsee have gone too far. Her dancing is amazing and that is all I care about!
I have to agree. Alot of the Harry fans are being vile to poor Chelsee. Im going to stick to reading her appreciation thread. Bye
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Old 11-12-2011, 12:40
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Well I am a Chesee and Harry fan and have been since the beginning. It's an odd feeling to be nervous about which one of them leaves - either way I shall be pleased and disappointed. I love Harry's dancing because he seemed such a clutz to begin with and even now feels embarrassed by some of the dance moves.

Chelsee, on the other hand, has such a natural talent and it seems there is no dance that can throw her off.

Either would be worthy winners.

To those being offended by hostile comments, don't be. It just shows poor linguistic skills on the part of the poster; nothing more.
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Old 11-12-2011, 13:06
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It's not being nasty, it's making an observation. I am a Chelsee fan now but it's pretty hard to deny that she's the least intelligent person in the studio. It can be annoying sometimes but she makes up for it with her dances.
Personally I think you are mixing up intelligence with education.

Once we got rid of the awful blonde hair and the OTT make up and outfits she is just an 'ordinary' girl who probably didnt concentrate on her school work as much as she should have. She brings out my maternal protective side.
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Old 11-12-2011, 13:13
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I have to agree. Alot of the Harry fans are being vile to poor Chelsee. Im going to stick to reading her appreciation thread. Bye
This part of your post can only make things worse - it's best not to single out any fanbase (each one has good and bad) and just ignore the nasty comments as best you can.
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Old 11-12-2011, 13:15
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I'm not fussed by any of them really, but I do think Harry will win just because he alienates the fewest amount of viewers. He's a nice, unthreatening, middle class boy with nice manners who dances nicely and is also the young, fit contestant so for me, Harry will win but I don't mind if Harry or Chelsee win.
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Old 11-12-2011, 13:19
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One thing I've learned over the years (thanks mainly to having a parent who's a gambling addict) is that the bookies very rarely get it wrong. If they make someone an odds-on favourite, you can bet yer bottom dollar (if you have one left after they've finished with you) that they know what they're talking about.

The odds according to Ladbrokes as of this moment?

Harry Judd 2/7 favourite to win, with Chelsee a distant 3/1 second favourite. If you know your betting odds, that's pretty much a foregone conclusion with bells on.

I haven't checked William Hill or Paddy Power, but there's not really much point. They all sing from the same hymn sheet. They're not in the business of losing money...

So, well done Harry, I guess. Personally I was tempted to have a flutter on Chelsee a few weeks ago, (odds were slightly tighter then) but betting against the experts doesn't often pay off. I suppose the McFly fanbase must be huge - much bigger than I expected, anyway.
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Old 11-12-2011, 13:23
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The bookies are crap with Strictly though - Darren Gough was at 33/1 at one point (a fact I took ruthless advantage of), and Gethin, Ricky Nipple and Matt were all odds-on favourites to win in the week before their finals. (*awaits onsalught of Gethin fans chanting, with pitchforks, to point out that he wuzz robbed*)
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Old 11-12-2011, 13:26
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I can't see any evidence of a clear runaway winner at all! I see two front runners in Chelsee and Harry and either could come out top! As I never vote in these shows I'm not unduly fussed who wins, both are worthy contenders.

If pressed I suppose I would prefer Harry as, like some others here, I find it hard to warm to Chelsee. I don't find her attractive in appearance and I honestly find her "dim witted" persona offputting not to mention her trully aweful accent. Clearly she is not stupid so I wonder whether she puts on a front (why?). I've never watched Waterloo Road so I don't know how big a part she has in it but lets face it it's not Shakespeare.

Would I be happy for my daughter to bring home Harry as her new boyfriend? Yes. Would I be happy for my son to bring home Chelsee as his new girlfriend? No! Does that make me superficial and a snob? Probably!

As I said, whoever wins between the two, I can live with it!
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Old 11-12-2011, 13:31
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Agreed OP . I would love for Harry to win but have resigned myself to the fact that Chelsee will .
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Old 11-12-2011, 13:31
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If you think they have it wrong, then you might like to take advantage of their free bet offer at the moment and give it a whirl on Chelsee. Think it's 50 quid just for signing up? Or there's another offer through quidco that they'll match any bet you place and refund your original stake through cashback.

Personally, looking at those odds, I wouldn't even take the free bet and put their money where my mouth is. If they're calling 2/7 versus 3/1 this late in the game... well, it'd probably be more constructive to just take a lighter to your cash and enjoy the blaze.
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Old 11-12-2011, 13:36
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If you think they have it wrong, then you might like to take advantage of their free bet offer at the moment and give it a whirl on Chelsee. Think it's 50 quid just for signing up? Or there's another offer through quidco that they'll match any bet you place and refund your original stake through cashback.

Personally, looking at those odds, I wouldn't even take the free bet and put their money where my mouth is. If they're calling 2/7 versus 3/1 this late in the game... well, it'd probably be more constructive to just take a lighter to your cash and enjoy the blaze.
I don't really gamble any more - work too much with problem gamblers and the whole industry makes me feel a bit squiffy (obviously without judging anyone who does enjoy gambling etc etc disclaimer, I'm not judging, and so on). (On the other hand it's probably more likely that I have proper gamblers instincts and only chose to do it when I was a student and couldn't afford to).
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Old 11-12-2011, 13:36
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I can't see any evidence of a clear runaway winner at all! I see two front runners in Chelsee and Harry and either could come out top! As I never vote in these shows I'm not unduly fussed who wins, both are worthy contenders.

If pressed I suppose I would prefer Harry as, like some others here, I find it hard to warm to Chelsee. I don't find her attractive in appearance and I honestly find her "dim witted" persona offputting not to mention her trully aweful accent. Clearly she is not stupid so I wonder whether she puts on a front (why?). I've never watched Waterloo Road so I don't know how big a part she has in it but lets face it it's not Shakespeare.

Would I be happy for my daughter to bring home Harry as her new boyfriend? Yes. Would I be happy for my son to bring home Chelsee as his new girlfriend? No! Does that make me superficial and a snob? Probably!

As I said, whoever wins between the two, I can live with it!
I'm sorry but Harry is just a posh ex public school boy with a dull personality. He has it in the bag, and he knows this. I think its very unfair of you to be so harsh on Chelsee just because she may not have had as much of a priveleged upbringing as Harry. She has done remarkable well considering her background and is a very talented dancer.
PS and she is probably much more attractive than you
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Old 11-12-2011, 13:47
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I don't really gamble any more - work too much with problem gamblers and the whole industry makes me feel a bit squiffy (obviously without judging anyone who does enjoy gambling etc etc disclaimer, I'm not judging, and so on). (On the other hand it's probably more likely that I have proper gamblers instincts and only chose to do it when I was a student and couldn't afford to).
Go ahead and judge! I think it's a shabby industry, to put it kindly. Then again, I've seen my dad enslaved to them for most of his life, so yeah I know the misery. Aside from the odd fiver on the grand national, I've never betted. Just never feel happy doing it. But I felt strongly that Chelsee would win and was a bit tempted to try to get one over on the buggers.

Never a good idea. Still, it'll be interesting to see how things pan out. I wonder how exactly they calculate their odds. Polls? Focus groups? I imagine they have quite a team devoted to it.
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Old 11-12-2011, 13:50
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I didn't know Harry was ex public school...

Makes sense I guess. He's poised and knows exactly what to say and when to say it. Unshakeable confidence. And that comfortable faceless tepidity* a la Cameron and most of the front bench.

*sure it's a word. In the Revel Horwood dictionary!
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Old 11-12-2011, 13:53
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I didn't know Harry was ex public school...

Makes sense I guess. He's poised and knows exactly what to say and when to say it. Unshakeable confidence. And that comfortable faceless tepidity* a la Cameron and most of the front bench.

*sure it's a word. In the Revel Horwood dictionary!
Yep he went to Uppingham. Im pretty sure Dougie is also an ex public school boy too.
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