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Amy Winehouse is over rated
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Yes she is a good singer, I'm not denying that, but would she really be so popular if there wasn't all this press coverage about her alcohol and drug abuse? Lets face it, all the stuff she did would probably have ruined her voice in a few years if she had lived. There seems to be a lot of people who seem to have latched on to the Amy story just to seem popular Is it just me or is anyone else sick of hearing about her, and the publicity stunt of releasing a 'new' album just before Christmas? Maybe she isn't dead and is just trying to get the money! Then she will be resurected around Easter time! |
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No I am not trolling (unless stating real opinons is trolling)
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Yes she is a good singer, I'm not denying that, but would she really be so popular if there wasn't all this press coverage about her alcohol and drug abuse?
Yes, because she had a good (and distinctive) voice, good songwriting skills, a big personality and a great (very popular in public and in fashion) style. If anything, her problems made her less popular, and even before her death people were saying it was a wasted talent. There are plenty of forever unheard-of musicians who suffer from problems and never get any attention either way, so that's a silly assumption to make.Quote:
Lets face it, all the stuff she did would probably have ruined her voice in a few years if she had lived.
It could have, but it wasn't too much at the time. It was affecting her performance skills though, as the terrible European show demonstrated.Quote:
There seems to be a lot of people who seem to have latched on to the Amy story just to seem popular
I wouldn't say that. People have more sympathy for her, but I wouldn't say they've ''latched'' on to her story.Quote:
Is it just me or is anyone else sick of hearing about her, and the publicity stunt of releasing a 'new' album just before Christmas?
I'm sure there are other people ''sick'' of hearing about her, many artists release albums at Christmas for increased sales and she's DEFINITELY not the only artist whose posthumous releases have been sold this way. It's nice that some revenue is going to charity though.Quote:
Maybe she isn't dead and is just trying to get the money! Then she will be resurected around Easter time!
Now that makes ME sick. |
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No I am not trolling (unless stating real opinons is trolling)
Yes she is a good singer, I'm not denying that, but would she really be so popular if there wasn't all this press coverage about her alcohol and drug abuse? Lets face it, all the stuff she did would probably have ruined her voice in a few years if she had lived. There seems to be a lot of people who seem to have latched on to the Amy story just to seem popular Is it just me or is anyone else sick of hearing about her, and the publicity stunt of releasing a 'new' album just before Christmas? Maybe she isn't dead and is just trying to get the money! Then she will be resurected around Easter time! |
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Aww she was very talented, a real loss but yes since her death she has been largely overrated, being called a legend is pretty ridiculous if you ask me.
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Her death gives her more appeal, perhaps? Had she lived a long life she most likely would have burnt out, gone into rehab over and over (hey that reminds me of a song!:P) done terrible gigs and become a parody of herself. If you look at Elvis Presley, he became bloated and a bit of a figure of fun before his death and we know about Michael Jackson and how he ended up.
I think her music will endure because she did some catchy pop songs and her first album, Frank, is less mainstream so that will appeal to jazz enthusiasts. The two albums do present two sides of her career. But had she lived a long life I think she would have become a joke figure, someone people mocked or felt pity for. It's sad she died so young but I can't imagine an older Amy Winehouse being a success or that highly admired. She might have left this world at the right time although her parents would never think that and quite rightly too. |
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[quote=TheChicagoBaron;55218016]Nobody thinks real opinions are ''trolling''. Setting up threads that will cause people to be idiots is, however.
People get accused of trolling all the time when they say things other peeople don't agree with, Yes, because she had a good (and distinctive) voice, good songwriting skills, a big personality and a great (very popular in public and in fashion) style. If anything, her problems made her less popular, and even before her death people were saying it was a wasted talent. There are plenty of forever unheard-of musicians who suffer from problems and never get any attention either way, so that's a silly assumption to make. It is also true that many very talented artists with good voices, sonwriting skills and personality who don't do any drink drugs etc get nowhere as they get very little publicity It could have, but it wasn't too much at the time. It was affecting her performance skills though, as the terrible European show demonstrated. It wasn't too bad at the moment but it would definately have ruined her legacyI wouldn't say that. People have more sympathy for her, but I wouldn't say they've ''latched'' on to her story. Really, people didn't seem to be saying how wonderful she was before she died I'm sure there are other people ''sick'' of hearing about her, many artists release albums at Christmas for increased sales and she's DEFINITELY not the only artist whose posthumous releases have been sold this way. It's nice that some revenue is going to charity though. I do agree with the bit about charity, although maybe everything going to the charity set up in her name would be better Now that makes ME sick. Well many people do seem to think she is the second coming! |
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She was already "popular" before all the drug stories became massively prominent in the press, both in the UK and the US. The reason I'm a fan is, regardless of your opinion on her addiction problems or alcoholism, she was one of the better jazz singers to come along in decades and she produced two amazing albums (probably moreso Back To Black but Frank was still an amazing jazz/hiphop lp). Just because you're not a fan or can't understand why she's so popular doesn't mean other people only like her because of the shit in the press, she was an extremely talented vocalist and was uncompromising in her songwriting. When she was at her best she blew the vast majority of modern vocalists out of the water.
Remember Norah Jones, she was being hailed as the best singer in the world when she died, not heard anything about her for a while now, maybe because she died of natural causes Edit-Sorry, obviously meant Eva Cassidy! What a wally I am! Last edited by nikproffitt : 11-12-2011 at 14:35. Reason: Stupidity |
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Norah Jones isn't dead??
I don't think Amy Winehouse is over rated at all.....not a legend though had she lived I'm sure in time she would have reached legendary status. |
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She may have been popular before her problems, but would she have got all the publicity and remained popular without the problems, or would she just have been another fad?
Remember Norah Jones, she was being hailed as the best singer in the world when she died, not heard anything about her for a while now, maybe because she died of natural causes And I don't think Norah Jones was ever hailed as the "best singer in the world", nor is she dead.
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I never thought she was anything special, and her dying hasn't made me think otherwise.
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Norah Jones isn't dead??
I don't think Amy Winehouse is over rated at all.....not a legend though had she lived I'm sure in time she would have reached legendary status. Anyway, one of my previous points is that with all the damage she was doing she probably wouldn't become a legend, just a bit of a joke |
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I adore Amy Winehouse, always have and most likely always will.
I wouldn't say she was overrated when she was alive, infact she was underrated in terms of airplay etc. She will be now in some peoples eyes, her death, new album etc. To say that she isn't really dead, thats pretty low really. |
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To say that she isn't really dead, thats pretty low really.
Last edited by nikproffitt : 11-12-2011 at 14:43. Reason: Probably bad taste! |
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Sorry, meant Eva Cassidy! How stupid am I!
Anyway, one of my previous points is that with all the damage she was doing she probably wouldn't become a legend, just a bit of a joke |
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No lower than saying the Elvis or Michael Jackson arn't dead surely
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No I am not trolling (unless stating real opinons is trolling)
Yes she is a good singer, I'm not denying that, but would she really be so popular if there wasn't all this press coverage about her alcohol and drug abuse? It was Dying young made her even more famous. and maybe made some people who hadnt really heard her music before check her out. |
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I'm not a fan, but i can see why others liked her music.
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how can getting press about being into alcohol and drugs make you more popular?
It was Dying young made her even more famous. and maybe made some people who hadnt really heard her music before check her out. Even the current Gary Glitter thread may well increase sales of his new greatest hits album as many people who may not have known it was released may now buy it, thats extra (free) publicity for the album |
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Yes, because she had a good (and distinctive) voice, good songwriting skills, a big personality and a great (very popular in public and in fashion) style.
If anything, her problems made her less popular, and even before her death people were saying it was a wasted talent. There are plenty of forever unheard-of musicians who suffer from problems and never get any attention either way, so that's a silly assumption to make. Quote:
Remember Norah Jones, she was being hailed as the best singer in the world when she died, not heard anything about her for a while now, maybe because she died of natural causes
Edit-Sorry, obviously meant Eva Cassidy! What a wally I am! |
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Couldn't agree more. She was unique in a morass of bland generic pop.
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Was she really unique, or just the one lucky enough (or unlucky as it probably helped destroy her) to become popular?
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Yes, she was unique, there isn't anyone else out there who sings like Amy Winehouse. Her vocal style blends perfectly between jazz and pop and has that emotional depth precisely because of her experiences.
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Maybe her voice was unique to her, but the fact that she was a good jazz/pop fusion singer does not make her unique..
Her problems or "looking a mess" whatever that means, are irrelevant. I bought her music because I liked her voice and I loved her song writing abilities not because of what she looked like. People liked her music before news started getting out about her drug and drink problems. After that people tended to become a little stalled of it so I would disagree that her problems made people buy her music any more, if anything it had the opposite effect, people being fed up of yet another talent being wasted due to drugs/drink. |
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Maybe her voice was unique to her, but the fact that she was a good jazz/pop fusion singer does not make her unique. Neither does all her problems or making herself look a complete mess in the process.
Whether Amy's popularity amongst teenagers was down to her rebellious figure and notoriety rather than appeal as a singing talent is a moot point. Amy certainly had the potential to become a great jazz singer but of course didn't have the chance to develop fully because of her problems and ultimate early death. I'm assuming that had she survived she eventually would have moved into jazz completely. She was 22 when she performed this.I'd say she was pretty unique and no way was she overrated. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CajpSeUvCPY |
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She really was a breath of fresh air...I feel myself just shaking my head at this documentary about her on the tele...such a loss
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