[davidwd]

Originally Posted by xynaria

For those missed it, last night at 4am or so BBC News showed a 30 minute special called 'From The Killing to Borgen: The Danish Secret of Success' where they go talkies to the cast shooting The Killing 3.

Fortunately they seem to have realised that some might have not been around when this was broadcast so they stuck it on Iplayer innit....................all they forgotted to do was actually tell people

I believe it is going to repeated three time during May 7th

[abrightyz]

TK2 is nominated for a Bafta... could it take home the award this year like TK1 did last year? or is Borgen more likely to attract the votes this year?

[parthena]

Sorry if this has already been posted, and sorry that it's on TK2 instead of TK1 - sorry about everything I've ever done wrong, in fact

On BBC Breakfast this morning, The Killing's writer appeared with an author called David Mewson, the latter having written a book of The Killing 1. He said he'd used the TV serial with the BBC's subtitles as his base, but has changed the ending (good! says me, who hated the denouement, especially the planned elopement).

The TV Killing's writer (as you may guess, I can't remember his name) said he hasn't read the book yet because he's still working on TK3.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Killing-...8029944&sr=1-1

[vinegar vera]

Mikael Birkkjaer waiting for the bus. Long article (in Danish) on Mikael with opinions on him from Sofie and Sidse.

Please translate...

http://politiken.dk/kultur/ECE163751...ndes-i-bussen/

[parthena]

Originally Posted by vinegar vera

Mikael Birkkjaer waiting for the bus.

Oh my! He's got flipflops on :-*

Please translate...

Courtesy of Google Translate, until a real bilingual person comes along:

Actually had Mikael Birkkjær already been offered an apprenticeship with a butcher twin home in Valby, when he in 1982 was admitted to the theater school. Bookseller was also interested.

So it was on slightly wobbly legs, he instead went to Fyn to become an actor. Not only because it was in Odense. Which in itself was 'another country'. He was actually more worried about what the 'old roots' home in Valby would say.

To become trained as an actor was therefore "something completely different than you ever heard anyone talk anything about "down in the courtyard between Kjeldsgårdsvej and Vigerslev Avenue, where Mikael Birkkjær grew up. Smells a bit of gay "actor?" he whispers skeptical. "All the others were the electricians and carpenters and blacksmiths'. "But an actor? It was therefore surprising. " For actors' crying sometimes. " And "kiss other," he says. "And it smells a little of the gay." So when you are young and by nature a bit more dependent on a sense of belonging than average, it's "bloody nerve wracking." For what if they thought he stood so much that he could no longer be a part of them? But it was not long before the door to the hallway in Odense was late Friday evening and three or four people came thundering up the stairs and pounded away at the door. And when Mikael Birkkjær opened, the whole crowd stood outside. Lined with strong beer and marijuana. And cried, "HEYYYYY, so here we are! '.

[west57]

Well the final episode of The Killing 2 just screened here in Australia last night, and just wanted to add my final thoughts on a fantastic series (and a great thread!).....

I don't think Raben shot the girl. I believe that Strange is/was the dictionary definition of a psychopath - able to detach himself emotionally from his actions. Hence the sadistic manner of the killings. To some extent, you need that to be a good soldier, as well as creativity and the ability to think on the run. The fact he was SAS and sent by himself on a covert mission to eliminate a suspected Taliban informer says to me that he was an excellent solider - ie, a good killer. In a war situation, you revert to your base survival instincts - protect yourself above all else.

This is also how Strange was also able to shoot Lund in cold blood, point blank. He knew that his goose was cooked. He knew she wouldn't stop asking questions. He didn't shoot her in the head because he was acting on the run - didn't have time to think things through - although he did have enough presence of mind to use her gun and not his own. You can see the 1st time he shoots her, she is not expecting it because they are standing so close together and he's looking into her eyes.

I'm not sure whether it was coincidence or not that Strange was assigned to the case. When the killings in Denmark started, surely there would be people in high places who knew, or at least suspected strongly, that he was the perpetrator. I guess it suited them in some ways that those who were able to corroborate the rogue officer story were eliminated.

I also found it a little flimsy that Dragsholm started asking questions, supposedly because she simply glimpsed Strange's tattoo one hot day in the courtroom? I realise the unit would have given a good description of him, but it would have been fairly unspecific - well-built, close-shaven hair, etc - which could probably describe any number of ex-soldiers. I suppose she made enquiries about him - but how would he have known? I'm sure she would have been careful not to tip him off. Perhaps that's where the "faceless men" came in........

All in all, highly enjoyable and thrilling series. I was disappointed the Strange was the killer because I'd grown to like him. For me, when Raben ID'd him in the library - I couldn't shake the thought that he was the killer, though I hoped desperately to be wrong.

Next week we have Spiral 3 to look forward to!

[parthena]

Originally Posted by west57

I also found it a little flimsy

The plotting is quite flimsy, IMO, especially the denouements in both 1 and 2 - but it doesn't stop me loving the production - the actors underacting are so refreshing compared to us or the Americans. And the atmosphere! And the theme! Wow.

Next week we have Spiral 3 to look forward to!

Got a bit out of control (IMO again, others would disagree) but still great Lucky you!

[west57]

Yes the acting is simply outstanding. Lund marching out of the park after emptying her gun into Strange - her anger was absolutely palpable, though she didn't say a word, and the look she gave to Brix - wow. There were so many emotions in that long walk out of the park - anger, betrayal, sadness - all portrayed via facial expressions and body language. Blew me away. I agree - I can overlook some of the nagging questions and plotholes because the production and acting is fantastic.

Am really looking forward to Spiral 3 and hopefully, TK3 at some stage! For those of you in the UK, I hope for your sake you get The Eagle and Unit 1 on your screens soon! More outstanding Scandinavian crime drama.

[the_lostprophet]

On a Scandinavian cultural note: the Danes (and many other countries) celebrate Midsummer tonight.

In Denmark, the solstitial celebration is called Sankt Hans aften ("St. John's Eve"). It was an official holiday until 1770, and in accordance with the Danish tradition of celebrating a holiday on the evening before the actual day, it takes place on the evening of 23 June. It is the day where the medieval wise men and women (the doctors of that time) would gather special herbs that they needed for the rest of the year to cure people.

It has been celebrated since the times of the Vikings by visiting healing water wells and making a large bonfire to ward away evil spirits. Today the water well tradition is gone. Bonfires on the beach, speeches, picnics and songs are traditional, although bonfires are built in many other places where beaches may not be close by (i.e. on the shores of lakes and other waterways, parks, etc.) In the 1920s a tradition of putting a witch made of straw and cloth (probably made by the elder women of the family[citation needed]) on the bonfire emerged as a remembrance of the church's witch burnings from 1540 to 1693[citation needed]. This burning sends the "witch" away to Bloksbjerg, the Brocken mountain in the Harz region of Germany where the great witch gathering was thought to be held on this day. Some Danes regard the relatively new symbolic witch burning as inappropriate.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midsummer#Denmark

It sounds like a nice tradition. It's not really a big thing in England these days although that Wikipedia page does say that some places in Cornwall celebrate it.

[xynaria]

Originally Posted by west57

For those of you in the UK, I hope for your sake you get The Eagle and Unit 1 on your screens soon! More outstanding Scandinavian crime drama.

Ploughing through Unit One atm and liking it.......been finding out that there's a humongous amount of very watchable foreign drama and how so little is picked up here is as baffling as it is criminal. It's also not just ignored by the TV companies but so little gets DVD distribution either...Comes to something when Australia is better served than the UK innit.....................

[Denley]

Originally Posted by the_lostprophet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midsummer#Denmark

It sounds like a nice tradition. It's not really a big thing in England these days although that Wikipedia page does say that some places in Cornwall celebrate it.

Thanks for that link tlp.

I vaguely remember a bonfire and firework celebrations in Summer as a little kid in Cornwall but don't really have any idea what it was all about. I remember it involved eating toasted marshmallows though

Now at least I can put a name "Golowan" to it - pity I didn't see this earlier today as I could have asked my Dad and passed on any extra info about it.

[Denley]

Originally Posted by xynaria

Ploughing through Unit One atm and liking it.......been finding out that there's a humongous amount of very watchable foreign drama and how so little is picked up here is as baffling as it is criminal. It's also not just ignored by the TV companies but so little gets DVD distribution either...Comes to something when Australia is better served than the UK innit.....................

I think I'm going to see if I can hunt out The Eagle and Unit One sometime soon on dvd too.

[the_lostprophet]

Originally Posted by Denley

Thanks for that link tlp.

I vaguely remember a bonfire and firework celebrations in Summer as a little kid in Cornwall but don't really have any idea what it was all about. I remember it involved eating toasted marshmallows though

Now at least I can put a name "Golowan" to it - pity I didn't see this earlier today as I could have asked my Dad and passed on any extra info about it.

Oh that's quite nice that you used to celebrate it. I did see some photos, in online newspapers, of Scandinavians toasting marshmallows on their fires yesterday and having BBQs. Some of the girls and women had flower garlands in their hair. Apparently this celebration is a big deal in Sweden; I think it said it's about as big a thing as new year's and Christmas eve.

My mum's Irish and she said she also remembers celebrating it as a child.

[Denley]

I will ask Dad but I'm not sure if he'll know much about it. I know memories of that time was while staying with my Cornish grandad.

still love toasted marshmallows! that's a tradition that should stay with us!

I remember the Spring furry dance celebrations much more vividly as we spent quite a time in and around Helston. They were good times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_Dance

[xynaria]

Originally Posted by Denley

I think I'm going to see if I can hunt out The Eagle and Unit One sometime soon on dvd too.

Think Australia and think expensive then

Why DR don't release these over here at a reasonable price is beyond me. They released a DVD of all 32 episodes of Unit One in Denmark (with English subs apparently) but I've yet to see anywhere offering it for sale

[the_lostprophet]

Originally Posted by Denley

I remember the Spring furry dance celebrations much more vividly as we spent quite a time in and around Helston. They were good times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_Dance

That sounds like another interesting little tradition - hadn't heard of it before.

[Denley]

Originally Posted by xynaria

Think Australia and think expensive then

Why DR don't release these over here at a reasonable price is beyond me. They released a DVD of all 32 episodes of Unit One in Denmark (with English subs apparently) but I've yet to see anywhere offering it for sale

I've just tried to search for these and I see what you mean! Oh well I'll have to wait and see if these ever see the light of day here in the UK.

[Warming]

A teaser from DR for Season 3 - no spoilers really its just atmos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNzhxoDl07k

[parthena]

Originally Posted by Warming

Season 3

From the mini-trailer and other pics, I don't see anyone I'm going to fall in love with like Meyer and Strange But I should have faith, the casting has been impeccable thus far

[kwynne42]

TV Times this week says Season 3 starts in November.

[Adamsk]

With the success of the The Killing,Wallander and The Bridge,Borgen and Thoese who kill.It's funny the UK has not picked up The Eagle and Irene Huss and Beck yet.But I known maybe sometime they will I remember Film 4 showed Jar city but I don't like US remake cause they can't catch the same feeling as the originals.

[parthena]

Originally Posted by Adamsk

I don't like US remake cause they can't catch the same feeling as the originals.

And the BBC has nothing to boast about either

[chriskross]

Recently finished finished the Eagle (DVD from Devotedvd in Australia) and thoroughly enjoyed it. Also Irene Huss was very good (though for some reason one dvd in the Irene Huss did not have English subtitles, and now finished a second box set of Varg Veum. All great. The last two came from discshop.se. We now have the second series of Borgen to watch - again, it's already on DVD from Discshop.

Talking of subtitles: I say 'English', but that's a bit dodgy sometimes. They tend to be more American, so we get the awful 'mom' and 'gotten' and 'restroom' (when you can quite clearly hear them say 'toilet').

[Adamsk]

Originally Posted by parthena

And the BBC has nothing to boast about either

Not really Wallander the uk version was was not great,but was more based on the real thing.

Just chill.

[parthena]

Originally Posted by Adamsk

Not really Wallander the uk version was was not great,but was more based on the real thing.

Just chill.

I can't, Adam, I'll never get over it How often does the BBC spend that much money on great basic material? And they botched it.