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His VW was lovely it should have got a 40 (I thought the music unusual though)
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Aliona very cleverly chose music that would match Harry's face for the VW saving him the worry of which face to pull.
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Yeah, the overall positioning was about right for me and so who cares about the details.
The judging panel worked well last night I thought. Nice atmosphere, relaxed etc. Nevertheless I don't buy into the theory, constantly expressed on this forum, that because someone rarely gives 10s it makes their judgement correct. I could sit on a judging panel and give 2s and 3s to everyone and then award a 10 to Nancy Del Olio or Lulu but it wouldn't them good dancers. Last night a lot of the dances were outside the panel's expertise (even Len's) e.g. Argentine Tango, Charleston, Salsa. I like Craig and would like him to stay. But he's not infallible. |
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I think Harry was lucky with his Charleston score, it wasn't even the best of this series yet the judges marked it as thus. With the V.Waltz he was pointed out the flaw in the week and it wasn't corrected.
No dance on Strictly will ever be flawless there will be some hesitations, wardrobe issues, wrong placements now and then. If the mistakes are present throughout the dance like head placement, heels when a toe etc then yes that will be critiqued as they are the basics. Especially if the couple have got it correct on other weeks. |
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When Craig awards a 10 he really means it. When he is in accord with the other three judges there's nothing better than all four simultaneously showing their approval for any dancer. There’s no reason for Craig to go.
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Cant believe he gave Harry a 9 for his charleston, it was just what charlestons are supposed to be like! His dancing was so nifty, light and energetic, even chelsee couldent do better than that! He was so light on his feet. I really dont understand Craig....Chelsees paso doble had flaws and was wibbly wobbly, and being the nitty-gritty picky perfectionist that he is, still gave her a 10. Maybe its time for craig to go? Its taking the mick
I had to LOL at this. Just because a judge gives a mark that you dont agree with means he has "to go". ![]() ![]()
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Are you serious with this thread
![]() Or is it supposed to be some kind of joke![]() ![]() Craig who is arguably the most consistent and technical judge on this show?We can't always see what the judges can see remember. Craig is the only judge who you can trust to tell it as it is (sometimes too unkindly IMO) |
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If Craig went the show would flounder. He is the best judge and the one whos comments matter most to the contestants.
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Harry's VW lacked where several of his ballroom dances lacked - in the face, as well as head placement (at times.)
In the VW at times Harry would be looking towards Aliona too much, but even more his facial expression was "I'm thinking really hard". He needed to be smiling, or least have a sublimely cheerful look. Why would he look cheerful whilst dancing to a bitter sweet so g about being scared to let yourself go and be happy because your heart has been so badly broken in the past? ![]() He got it absolutely spot on and captured the feel of the music and meaning of the song perfectly. It was beautiful
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Someone who used to do competitive Paso Doble dancing posted this comment on another site. Quote:
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Knew people were gonna comment about Chelsee's turn on the paso. A second turn is a common feature in the paso, it is where you mimic the matador's moves...Ie Conducting a spin after him or you shape his hand mimics after his. Also the female is half the time supposed to be the opposite to the male. I have danced the paso and technically all the technique and steps for a perfect dance was in Chelsee's and Pasha's Paso. There were traveling spins, shashas, promenade positions, surflex, spot turns, sway, arm styling and shaping flamencos, staccato movements, promenade flicks. Her walks were perfect, her feet closed correctly on the positional changes. People need to research the dances first before they can comment on incorrect technique and marks. Chelsee had a complex dance with complex steps hence the 40. |
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I loved Chelsee's Paso and I love Craig.
He's good and he's honest (even if a little too honest sometimes!) Also, cant wait to see him in Panto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
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LOL! It woudn't be DS if there wasn't someone suggesting a judge/presenter/pro (delete as appropriate) ought to go because they didn't agree with something they saud
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If Craig went the show would flounder. He is the best judge and the one whos comments matter most to the contestants.
)Craig is always honest, and you can see how much his praise means to the contestants. |
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I came on this thread expecting to see a backlash because Jason and Kristina had got 10 from Craig... not Chelsee.
To my mind Kristina probably deserved 40 (10 from Craig) for having to put up with Jason Leching and doing that monstrous Hanibal sniffing thing at the beginning.... but Jason no way... I cant believe how few actual Argentine Tango steps he did to get that.... |
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Someone who used to do competitive Paso Doble dancing posted this comment on another site.
She was supposed to be slightly behind Pasha in order for him to take the lead If Craig knew the style she was dancing required the slight hesitation then he was absolutely correct to give it a 10 |
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Oh I was going to post in a similar vein that I had seen a review where Chelsee apparent hesitation was correct in the flamenco/paso style that she danced. It is one not usually seen or marked well on SCD.
She was supposed to be slightly behind Pasha in order for him to take the lead If Craig knew the style she was dancing required the slight hesitation then he was absolutely correct to give it a 10 |
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Did you listen to the song he was dancing to?
Why would he look cheerful whilst dancing to a bitter sweet so g about being scared to let yourself go and be happy because your heart has been so badly broken in the past? He got it absolutely spot on and captured the feel of the music and meaning of the song perfectly. It was beautiful |
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Someone who used to do competitive Paso Doble dancing posted this comment on another site. Quote:
strictlystarlight7 Knew people were gonna comment about Chelsee's turn on the paso. A second turn is a common feature in the paso, it is where you mimic the matador's moves...Ie Conducting a spin after him or you shape his hand mimics after his. Also the female is half the time supposed to be the opposite to the male. I have danced the paso and technically all the technique and steps for a perfect dance was in Chelsee's and Pasha's Paso. There were traveling spins, shashas, promenade positions, surflex, spot turns, sway, arm styling and shaping flamencos, staccato movements, promenade flicks. Her walks were perfect, her feet closed correctly on the positional changes. People need to research the dances first before they can comment on incorrect technique and marks. Chelsee had a complex dance with complex steps hence the 40. Quote:
Oh I was going to post in a similar vein that I had seen a review where Chelsee apparent hesitation was correct in the flamenco/paso style that she danced. It is one not usually seen or marked well on SCD.
She was supposed to be slightly behind Pasha in order for him to take the lead If Craig knew the style she was dancing required the slight hesitation then he was absolutely correct to give it a 10 I can't believe the OP would start a post because Craig gave a 9 and not a 10, especially when he gave an explanation! |
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oh goodness me, NO, Craig does not need to be shown the door
He is the only judge who talks any sense whatsoever! |
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Someone who used to do competitive Paso Doble dancing posted this comment on another site.
. Its wonderful to read what another professional has to say about Chelsee's paso![]() ![]()
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Good luck with this thread. Craig's far from perfect but there are three judges that should be shown the door before him imo.
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This point is so interesting because I thought the hesitation was a blip on Chelsee's part - now I know it really was worth 10s!
I can't believe the OP would start a post because Craig gave a 9 and not a 10, especially when he gave an explanation! Interesting to hear that this was intentional. I too now think it was worth 40.
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I just dont understand him
![]() He always picks out the minutest of flaws, and yet didnt pick out any flaws in her flaw-full paso doble, yet Harrys viennese waltz was a dream, and he has the knack to mention about his head, but no flaws from chelsees I felt confused, Harrys was worth a 10 but he choose not to give it then gave one to a flaw filled dance. |
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I totally agree with you
I felt confused, Harrys was worth a 10 but he choose not to give it then gave one to a flaw filled dance. |
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I think it's more a case of creative marking by the judges to ensure the right people(or their favourites) got through to the final. They know Harry's got the public vote, and Chelsee will pick up the down market/former X-factor viewers or common northern types.
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