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As I said before, there is a vast difference between being critical or finding something negative and in being bitchy or downright cruel as quite often happens on DS.
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I nearly started to type we are all adults on here - then remembered we're not!
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Tactical smilies!
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Seems to me that you cant have an opinion that something was a shambles or that a celb bores you to tears without the holier than thou brigade finding it cruel and vindictive
Yet the Apprecaition threads are never encroached by others who find them not to their taste .My opinion on an Apprecaition threads is too each his own . DS by definition is a discussion board .. its open to discussion . The Appreciation threads are there for the admiration and appreciation , other than that the board is open to all opinions and all thoughts and all who wish to whinge moan or expression love or joy . |
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Seems to me that you cant have an opinion that something was a shambles or that a celb bores you to tears without the holier than thou brigade finding it cruel and vindictive
Yet the Apprecaition threads are never encroached by others who find them not to their taste .My opinion on an Apprecaition threads is too each his own . DS by definition is a discussion board .. its open to discussion . The Appreciation threads are there for the admiration and appreciation , other than that the board is open to all opinions and all thoughts and all who wish to whinge moan or expression love or joy . I've never been in the "appreciation threads" threads in my life..boring, sycophantic hero worship, in my less than humble opinion. |
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I'd like to be free to express my distaste for Jason's AT without being told I'm an idiot of the highest order.
But I hope I take it all in good part. I understand that people have their favourites. Jason's supporters are no more moronic for liking him than I am for preferring someone else. Do calm down, dears. It can't all be 'vicarage tea-party' when people are posting having perhaps imbibed a drop or two of strong liquor. |
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I joined DS in 2008 & I always recall it sadly like this, but from the past 3 years has been worse. We all have the right of our own opinion, but we should remember always to be respectful. I some of these threads and post are very personal and disrespectful with their comments.
I don't normally post in the main forum because is scary & sad the disrespectful comments people make about the celebrities and professionals, who are working hard to give us a entertainment show to watch every Weekend. I found some comments unnecessary and derogatory toward the celebrities, professionals & presenters. |
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I agree that this place is very unpleasant at the moment. Although I havent seen anything as bad as the vitriol that was directed towards Lisa Snowdon yet.
If that's the level on here now, personally I'm glad to be off it. For those calling Chelsee unintelligent etc. She is bright. You will not learn 2 dances like those and perform without being bright. She is also bright on her replies back to Tess and Bruce and her asides about and to Pasha. I'd 100 times rather have her genuineness and honesty over any of the nasty little 'people' on here who call her unintelligent or worse just because she can't spell very well on twitter and has a northern accent. I also have never heard her say anything derogotary about anyone. I know what it's like to be picked on and I hope she smashes Blackpool. |
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The negativity started in Zoe Ball's series - and it was (if I recall correctly) triggered by the judges fawning over her dancing from a very early stage in the competition (week 1 Waltz). From then on she could do no wrong - and she got high marks all the way through - even when she made glaring errors. The judges (I think) cost her the win - as their clear adoration of Zoe not only got her kicked out in third place - it also gave us the most undeserving winner ever - Darren Gough!
You would think that they would learn - but no - next season the panel were so far up Emma Bunton's backside that they did the same thing again..... I seem to recall 9s being given for a very lacklustre jive where Emma practically fell over..... which was stupid as when Louisa came out and blew everyone away with HER Jive - they had nowhere to go except a 10 way too early on in the series..... It has happened in nearly every series since.... the judges had a clear favourite who could do no wrong - their mistakes weren't penalised where others who made the same mistakes (even in the same dance in the same week) were clobbered. Check out Len's comments on Emma and Louisa's Rumbas.... Louisa was criticised for doing a series of poses - Emma did a very similar dance a few minutes later - and far from getting similar comments from Len - he said something along the lines of that's the way they dance the rumba these days..... The dance off gave the public the chance for revenge - the voters seemed to take delight in keeping the duffers out of the judges clutches for as long as possible.... and now the dance off has been ditched - a reasonably sensible voting off pattern has come back - we haven't really had anyone outstaying their welcome - and in this series in particular - we have had the right final 5 - the public kept the best dancers until the end.... If the judges commented impartially, and marked everyone the same (EVERYONE loses marks for mistakes - not ignoring some) there would be a lot less bitching on here... Mind you - you will always get the rabid fans of one celeb or another attempting to put down their darlings rival - that is just humnan nature! |
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what bothers me is the personal nature of the vitriol
what's being said about Chelsee is pretty outrageous to be honest. I hope that the majority of my comments relate to how I feel about the person's dancing - I'm not massively interested in their accent, or where they went to school, or if they've had a boob job/botox, or whether they are 'smug' or pre-trained I like to think that I judge purely based on the dance that evening, which is why despite me not usually connecting with Harry I thought his VW was well worth 4 10s I want Chelsee to win because she is the dancer that excites and interests me most. If Harry wins that will be fine too although he doesn't do it for me. I won't even mind if Jason wins! let go of the anger people, it's only a gameshow after all |
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Seems to me that you cant have an opinion that something was a shambles or that a celb bores you to tears without the holier than thou brigade finding it cruel and vindictive
Yet the Apprecaition threads are never encroached by others who find them not to their taste .My opinion on an Apprecaition threads is too each his own . DS by definition is a discussion board .. its open to discussion . The Appreciation threads are there for the admiration and appreciation , other than that the board is open to all opinions and all thoughts and all who wish to whinge moan or expression love or joy . ![]() Quote:
Fortunately you did not read as I did at 5am this morning (insomnia) before it was removed, a post calling Chelsee a fake c***...
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Fortunately you did not read as I did at 5am this morning (insomnia) before it was removed, a post calling Chelsee a fake c***.
If that's the level on here now, personally I'm glad to be off it. For those calling Chelsee unintelligent etc. She is bright. You will not learn 2 dances like those and perform without being bright. She is also bright on her replies back to Tess and Bruce and her asides about and to Pasha. I'd 100 times rather have her genuineness and honesty over any of the nasty little 'people' on here who call her unintelligent or worse just because she can't spell very well on twitter and has a northern accent. I also have never heard her say anything derogotary about anyone. I know what it's like to be picked on and I hope she smashes Blackpool. I didn't see that nancy -- was blissfully asleep at that time. The trouble is that the bitter folk who speak this way are the first to claim freedom of expression. 'It's my opinion' seems to matter a hell of a lot to them, no matter how ill-informed and graceless. The boobs are only thing that's fake about Chelsee -- everything else is as honest as day and most people will feel that her spontaneity and her naturalness have lit up SCD. Whether she's your favourite or not, she has been one of the unequivocal joys of the show. Her and Pasha. (Alert and Ignore are your friends here. Don't give the ugly thinkers any encouragement.) |
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Thinking about it a bit more, I'm not sure that the level of negativity on here is any worse than before and there has always been a fair number of argumentative posters.
But I think what has been gradually changing is the number of regular posters who post as if they are spoiling for a fight by adopting a tone that is totally at odds with the mood of the thread. It's a bit like a group of children happily playing a game together and then another child comes along and does something to disrupt the game. Sometimes their mum will tell them to play nicely and threaten them with being taken home, so they settle down. But at other times it is more like their mum didn't see what they did and when one or two of the other children protest, they get sworn at or threatened by the new child and then some of the children decide to go home. I know it's a daft analogy and but that's how it feels to me. |
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Fortunately you did not read as I did at 5am this morning (insomnia) before it was removed, a post calling Chelsee a fake c***.
If that's the level on here now, personally I'm glad to be off it. For those calling Chelsee unintelligent etc. She is bright. You will not learn 2 dances like those and perform without being bright. She is also bright on her replies back to Tess and Bruce and her asides about and to Pasha. I'd 100 times rather have her genuineness and honesty over any of the nasty little 'people' on here who call her unintelligent or worse just because she can't spell very well on twitter and has a northern accent. I also have never heard her say anything derogotary about anyone. I know what it's like to be picked on and I hope she smashes Blackpool. But I agree, the comment you saw earlier today was disgusting, but I've never seen anything like that in the SCD forum. Mind you, I've seen similar (and worse) in other DS forums. |
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I agree that this place is very unpleasant at the moment. Although I havent seen anything as bad as the vitriol that was directed towards Lisa Snowdon yet.
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With respect, this is a thread about abusive comments etc in the forum. You have posted something that is deliberately pro-Chelsee, that is almost an invitation for negative comments from others defending their favourites..then it all starts again. After all, Jason and Harry have presumably done nothing to upset you. Don't get me wrong, you're entitled to your favourite, I'm just trying to illustrate how everything kicks-off.
But I agree, the comment you saw earlier today was disgusting, but I've never seen anything like that in the SCD forum. Mind you, I've seen similar (and worse) in other DS forums. |
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With respect, this is a thread about abusive comments etc in the forum. You have posted something that is deliberately pro-Chelsee, that is almost an invitation for negative comments from others defending their favourites..then it all starts again. After all, Jason and Harry have presumably done nothing to upset you. Don't get me wrong, you're entitled to your favourite, I'm just trying to illustrate how everything kicks-off.
But I agree, the comment you saw earlier today was disgusting, but I've never seen anything like that in the SCD forum. Mind you, I've seen similar (and worse) in other DS forums. I like Harry by the way. He's a very nice boy. |
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But a celeb's level of education has really got very little to do with someone's ability to dance or entertain, and smacks of pulling someone down for the sake of it rather than contributing to a proper discussion (There's a showbiz forum for that
) I'm not really surprised it was given short shrift.I agree that negative comments will be made and people will have to accept that debate is better than 'shut up' but there's a difference between 'That dance lacked passion, I don't think Harry expresses emotion very well, so I wasn't moved' by it to 'Harry is such a repressed dullard'. In the latter case, it's not really worth debating as it's almost venting or baiting. Again, not surprised that such comments get dismissed or ridiculed. I think you need a thick skin to post in most of the reality show forums. ![]() ![]() .
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it also gave us the most undeserving winner ever - Darren Gough!
You cannot say Darren Gough was undeserving and not expect some reaction because, clearly, the British public thought he was as they voted for him and made him the winner. What you should really be saying is that you felt Darren Gough didn't deserve to win for X Y and Z reasons and you'd find the responses wouldn't usually be as aggressive in return. There's a vast difference between expressing a personal opinion - ie I felt Darren Gough didn't deserve to win - and expressing something as a fact - Darren Gough didn't deserve to win. No-one DESERVES to win. The people who win are the ones who capture the hearts and minds and the pockets of the viewers to the point at which they are bothered enough to pick up the phone and vote for them. |
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I agree and especially is you are a Donobot fan
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The constant sniping against Darren Gough on here drives me up the wall. Fact is, he probably encouraged more people to try dancing than any other winner.
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I posted that one post on here (I don't post elsewhere, have only been twice in appreciation) because the general tone of the forum is not somewhere I like this year and in fact it was the same last year. I used to post 100s of times during a series. Now it seems as Jan says if you don't fit in a certain clique you can't simply comment and comment on your enjoyment of the show. You have to be constantly sarcastic with it. Gets a bit tedious.
I like Harry by the way. He's a very nice boy. Hi Nancy......lovely to see you I have missed you, and some others that used to be regulars on here both during and between series, who no longer seem to be around. I remember our laughs with nostalgia and I dont think we always saw eye to eye but somehow it never affected us. |
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his hands were bloody awful though!
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The constant sniping against Darren Gough on here drives me up the wall. Fact is, he probably encouraged more people to try dancing than any other winner.
Was he technically perfect, not by a long shot. Did he improve the most out of the contestants in that year, definitely. Did he demonstrate in every step he took the fact that he had fallen in love with dancing to the point that people wanted to vote for him, absolutely. And the fact he was able to come back two years later and win the Christmas special shows that he captured the imagination of the viewers enough that they voted him the winner once more. |
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