The Harry-Kara Parallels

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echad

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“I think the answer is actually that we all like people for different reasons and they dont always fit into the same mould. On paper Chelsee should be the very last person I would like but she has won me over. I didnt think I would like Gavin and I adored him (not the dancing mind). There is also the pro partner factor, I know for a 100% fact that I would like Harry more if he was with any of the other female pros, and would be actively supporting him if he was with Kristina or Katya, but I just dont care for Aliona very much and it effects how I think.”

This all sounds about right actually. And I agree with you on the Aliona thing, or at least I did, but she's really won me over these last few weeks.

Alli-F

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“I liked:

Series 4: Mark Ramprakash and Louisa Litton
Series 5: Alesha Dixon
Series 6: Austin Healey
Series 7: No one.
Series 8: Kara Tointon

Series 9: Chelsee Healey followed by Harry Judd a country mile away. Jason, in comparison, is far away in Australia going by this distance analogy...”

And Iliked

Series 4 Louisa but not bothered enough to watch
Series 5 Matt di Angelo
Series 6 Austin Healey
Series 7 No-one
Series 8 Kara Tointon
Series 9 No-one

So I don't know what we can extrapolate from all our answers.

blackberry000

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by echad:
“Yeah they must be pretty close, I heard Kara will be a bridesmaid at Tom's wedding or something along those lines.”

Where do you guys hear these things from? Are you in the same circles as Kara?

Hello.

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by blackberry000:
“Where do you guys hear these things from? Are you in the same circles as Kara?”

It was in OK! magazine, haha.

Rose-2010

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“2 parts cyanide to 1 part arsenic. (NOT REALLY, I LOVE JASON WITH ALL MY HEART)”

BIB

pasodabble

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by Hello.:
“Here is a big coincidence for you. Kara used to date James Bourne from Busted I believe, and through Busted became great friends with McFly. She is still a very close friend of McFly's and attending Tom McFly's engagement party alongside Matt Willis recently, the only member of Busted who is still close friends with the band.

Matt Willis won I'm a Celebrity, Dougie won it after taking advice from him.

Harry is in the final and certainly has a chance, he took advice from Kara before the show.”

Coincidence is the wrong word - six degrees of separation more like. Twenty-something London based actors/singers/presenters tend to know each other from Sylvia Young, Brit school, Arts Ed etc.

crazy_moo 123

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by blackberry000:
“Where do you guys hear these things from? Are you in the same circles as Kara?”

well on twitter the other day Tom had a practice for his wedding and he thanked his braidsmaids for coming which including Kara ..

echad

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by blackberry000:
“Where do you guys hear these things from? Are you in the same circles as Kara?”

Twitter.

nagel84

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by echad:
“Yeah they must be pretty close, I heard Kara will be a bridesmaid at Tom's wedding or something along those lines.”

Tom's bride to be is Giovanna Falcone. It was she who made an appearance on last year's ITT when they said she was one of Kara's best friends

blackberry000

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by Hello.:
“It was in OK! magazine, haha. ”

Originally Posted by crazy_moo 123:
“well on twitter the other day Tom had a practice for his wedding and he thanked his braidsmaids for coming which including Kara ..”

Originally Posted by echad:
“Twitter. ”

Ah, ok. It's just the way echad said "I heard..." gave me a image of her(him?!

) hanging out with Kara one day while she showed echad her bridesmaid dress!

echad

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by nagel84:
“Tom's bride to be is Giovanna Falcone. It was she who made an appearance on last year's ITT when they said she was one of Kara's best friends”

Ooh well spotted!

echad

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by blackberry000:
“Ah, ok. It's just the way echad said "I heard..." gave me a image of her(him?!) hanging out with Kara one day while she showed echad her bridesmaid dress!”

Lol I heard from a person who read it on twitter, but I wasn't sure if I was remembering correctly.

Wiskas

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Are you suggesting thinking of Harry had me turning Japanese?”

And now I have that bloody annoying song in my head. Thanks heaps

Originally Posted by kassieq:
“And, my dear, what is the formula if Jason wins ”

One part BBC bias, one part judicial bias, one part Neighbours fan base, one part irritating gurner. Mix biases together, whip with irritating gurner. Steam gently. Serve garnished wth Neighbours fan base.

Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Hari-Krishna. Maybe Indian?”

Thought that said Hari-Kristina.

Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“Come on now Monkseal....why are you beating yourself up like this, I know your heart lies elsewhere.

I have told you (elsewhere) that you shouldnt underestimate the appeal of a girl who can turn round the opinion of a grumpy 50 something woman who has an over active disaproval muscle. One of the reasons that Chris Hollins won was because he came across to the public as a sweet, genuine, fun guy with a fun non sexual relationship with Ola. I think Chelsee might just pull this off.”

Agree entirley with BiB. Having seen the pre-series promo trailers I fully expected to dislike Chelsee intensely. Instead from day one she has been utterly charming, very sweet and is a total delight. Chelsee for the glitterball - or else you will really see the non-spp thread go up in smoke.

frally

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by blackberry000:
“I wonder how much being bookies' favourite could damage the chances of a celebrity winning. Because people are obviously going to vote for the person they bet on, and it'd be more profitable to bet on someone who's not bookies' favourite and vote for him/her to win. So the profitable thing to do would be to bet on Chelsee (I assume Harry is still the favourite?) and vote for her hoping that she wins.”

Depending on how much the bookies have to pay out if Harry wins, I often wonder whether it would be more profitable for them to phone in support of Chelsee or Jason and ensure Harry didn't win, especially if voting numbers are low.

kassieq

12-12-2011

Right off to see if the white dress/red coat combo will win baby Apprentice, or is it in the bag for Baby 'I hate everything' James.

SCD-Observer

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by kassieq:
“Right off to see if the white dress/red coat combo will win baby Apprentice, or is it in the bag for Baby 'I hate everything' James. ”

Are they really good this year? I stopped watching the Young Apprentice after the first one.

Monkseal

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Parallels between Kara and Chelsee:

1. Both actresses that did one show and nothing else in terms of acting (Eastenders vs Waterloo Road).

2. Both had a new pro partner.

3. Both pro partner a native Russian (American or at least speaks with an American accent?) and ex SYTYCD contestants.

4. Chelsee and Kara both didn't believe (genuinely) they were good, and often appeared unconvinced but happy when judges praised them after their performance.

Not as comprehensive as Monkseal but he/she has more time on his/her hands. *meow, boo-hiss, air scratches*”

5. A small but sizable minority always assumed their pro-dancers were gay, but they were just Russian.

peely

12-12-2011

[quote=Jan2555*GG*;55254097]Come on now Monkseal....why are you beating yourself up like this, I know your heart lies elsewhere.

I have told you (elsewhere) that you shouldnt underestimate the appeal of a girl who can turn round the opinion of a grumpy 50 something woman who has an over active disaproval muscle. One of the reasons that Chris Hollins won was because he came across to the public as a sweet, genuine, fun guy with a fun non sexual relationship with Ola. I think Chelsee might just pull this off.[/QUOTE]

Trouble is, so might Harry.

Wiskas

12-12-2011

Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Are they really good this year? I stopped watching the Young Apprentice after the first one.”

Nah they're all dead scary. Naked ambition a go-go, they make Greyson & Krotchtina look like a bunch of olds playing bingo on a rainy afternoon.

penguinperson

12-12-2011

Harry reminds me of Darren Gough a bit of a lad great ballroom but never could get into the Latin, probably more polished and less openly enthusiastic than Darren. Chelsee reminds me slightly of Alesha, beginning to dance on auto pilot and perform. Like Alesha she has a few wobbly moments now and then as she dances on the edge. Jason is very staged but not always fully there doesn't remind me of any one particularly.

Very interesting battle imo.

anothermi

13-12-2011

Fun thread.

I'm enjoying the speculation(s). I just have a question about Monkseal's list...

Quote:
“Get an ex-SYTYCD pro : Both Artem(finallist) and Aliona(last cut before the finals) made it far on So You Think You Can Dance - a show devoted to versatility, willingness to learn styles outside of ballroom, and performing to a reality tv crowd. As Strictly becomes increasingly less about ballroom, being with a chameleon, rather than an Erin, can only pay off.”

What country's SYTYCD did Aliona participate in?

And on the SYTYCD subject, a little correction. Artem was (unfortunately) NOT a finalist. He went out 4th pair (out of an 8 pair field) and so was two weeks away from being in the finals.

Of course that doesn't actually affect the point being made, IMO.

Monkseal

13-12-2011

I meant finallist in the sense of reaching the live shows (should have been clearer, sorry). Aliona tried out for the fourth series of the US version - she got cut at the last round (Top 40?) before the live shows, in favour of Chelsie Hightower.

anothermi

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“I meant finallist in the sense of reaching the live shows (should have been clearer, sorry). Aliona tried out for the fourth series of the US version - she got cut at the last round (Top 40?) before the live shows, in favour of Chelsie Hightower.”

Ahhh. Thanks. I find it hard to remember the ones who try out only once (and don't make it.) Yeah, it they make it that far, the dancing is likely very good because after that the choices are mostly "casting" type decisions.

Monkseal

13-12-2011

I think after Bonkers Snow, Faina and the perils of dragging the fabulous Anya halfway through the previous series on her bum, they were probably sensible to leave off trying with the Eastern Bloc lady-pros in favour of an all-American type, as I doubt it's ever going to happen with that show's audience. (See : Iveta this year). I still would have taken her over that awful salsa woman who lasted two weeks mind...

anothermi

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“I think after Bonkers Snow, Faina and the perils of dragging the fabulous Anya halfway through the previous series on her bum, they were probably sensible to leave off trying with the Eastern Bloc lady-pros in favour of an all-American type, as I doubt it's ever going to happen with that show's audience. (See : Iveta this year). I still would have taken her over that awful salsa woman who lasted two weeks mind...”

Agree. US audiences like their ballroom women "youthfull" looking. I read frequent comments on how "old looking" the ones you mentioned above were.

There is definitely a different sensibility on either side of the pond.
e.g. Showdances. DWTS has had little ballroom content in their "freestyle" dances for such a long time that some people thought there was a rule forbidding it in the freestyle. Here, however, the dances that stray too far from tradition seem to be generally disliked.

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