|
||||||||
The Harry-Kara Parallels |
![]() |
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
#101 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,032
|
Not sure how much the McFly influence counts on Strictly. McFly was famous between 2004 - 2008. Assuming the majority of their fans were aged between 10 and 25 at the time, this fanbase is now aged under 31 and more likely to watch I'm a Celebrity than Strictly.
Neighbours was hugely popular in the mid 1980s. Those of us who spent our lunchtimes at uni watching it are now in our late forties. (We even remember when Russell Crowe was in it.) Being in Neighbours might not translate into votes for Jason but he is probably more famous for the Strictly audience than Harry. |
|
|
|
|
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
|
|
|
#102 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 18,242
|
Quote:
Why isn't his involvement with McFly respectable? They've had quite an excellent career so far. More than anything I appreciate how charitable the band are. I believe I read Harry's fee has gone to his girlfriends charity which I think is for people with brain injuries. I could be wrong, though.
It was Chelsee whose 'career' was in question. So far, like Kara, she only acted in one show. Whereas Kara was more well known because Eastenders often has 10+ million viewers, I don't think Chelsee (who didn't play the main role in Waterloo Road) was that well known. |
|
|
|
|
|
#103 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3
|
delete
|
|
|
|
|
|
#104 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 486
|
Quote:
No tone. Just asking and genuinely surprised that you didn't seem to know it though you appeared to write with conviction that bookies' favourites oftentimes don't win. That's all.
![]() The conviction was more towards my theory rather than any facts I know from the past. Like I said until last year I never really paid attention to who was bookies favourite.I really don't think bookies should be allowed to place bets on matters that are decided by the betters. It seems like a self fulfilled prophecy... (of sorts). It seems rather random who's picked as being bookies favourite (Harry is the favourite presumable because he was fit, and Chelsee wasn't because she was considered too "common" maybe?!) SCD is just a bit of fun and game. But for celebrities who are hoping SCD would help their careers and put a lot of work into it for months, it seems unfair if such a random affair as being/not being the favourite, which is out of their control, effects their chances of winning. |
|
|
|
|
|
#105 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 18,242
|
Quote:
The answer is in the quote from you
![]()
|
|
|
|
|
|
#106 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 18,242
|
Quote:
Before your knee-jerk reaction to my earlier post, please also read my clarification. And calm down.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#107 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,829
|
Quote:
Not sure how much the McFly influence counts on Strictly. McFly was famous between 2004 - 2008. Assuming the majority of their fans were aged between 10 and 25 at the time, this fanbase is now aged under 31 and more likely to watch I'm a Celebrity than Strictly.
Neighbours was hugely popular in the mid 1980s. Those of us who spent our lunchtimes at uni watching it are now in our late forties. (We even remember when Russell Crowe was in it.) Being in Neighbours might not translate into votes for Jason but he is probably more famous for the Strictly audience than Harry. |
|
|
|
|
|
#108 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Geneva, Switzerland
Posts: 8,044
|
Quote:
Was his followers garnered after the SCD series started or was Harry already quite popular before SCD *because of the Mcfly band factor*???
Don't forget Robbie has a lot of twitter followers and look what that has got him! Didn't know Robbie had so many followers though. |
|
|
|
|
|
#109 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 18,242
|
Quote:
Just thought I'd note that one of McFly's biggest singles to date was released at the end of 2010 - a collaboration with Taio Cruz called 'Shine A Light'.
![]() I don't really know much of Mcfly except their guest appearance singing 'It's All About You' in SCD and CiN that year, and I thought they were all cute as buttons and definitely drawing in teenies and tweenies for SCD. |
|
|
|
|
|
#110 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 18,242
|
Quote:
I have no idea. I had personally never heard of Harry before SCD, and had only heard of McFly because of the other member doing Pop Star to Opera Star a couple of years back.
Didn't know Robbie had so many followers though. |
|
|
|
|
|
#111 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Geneva, Switzerland
Posts: 8,044
|
Quote:
And even non pop fans like me heard of that song.
![]() I don't really know much of Mcfly except their guest appearance singing 'It's All About You' and I thought they were all cute as buttons and definitely drawing in teenies and tweenies for SCD. |
|
|
|
|
|
#112 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Geneva, Switzerland
Posts: 8,044
|
Quote:
I have to say, his followers ballooned after his Foxtrot week. And then some actually stopped following him after his thrusting business. I am not a twitter user but I read about it here in DS and the forums.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#113 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 486
|
Quote:
Why isn't his involvement with McFly respectable? They've had quite an excellent career so far. More than anything I appreciate how charitable the band are. I believe I read Harry's fee has gone to his girlfriends charity which I think is for people with brain injuries. I could be wrong, though.
I wasn't talking about his charitability. That is very respectable and in any case part of his personal life. Not for me to judge. To me pop music is industry that effectively mass produces singers and bands. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of originality in the industry either, because these products are pitched to appeal to the mass and so that the general public buys them. Britney Spears has had a very successful career, but again I don't consider her career respectable. The only pop musicians I respect are people like Madonna, Lady Gaga, Elton John (though he walks on the border of being a pop musician), Michael Jackson... those who were/are original and in a way trend setters. I'm sure the McFly band members are very talented. Just seem to me to be part of a big corporation that is all about the "selling". And I'm assuming this is why so many of their band members are taking part in reality shows lately. |
|
|
|
|
|
#114 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: DOTS are evil!
Posts: 32,338
|
Quote:
Ok, I realise that I may have offended McFly fans, and I apologise for that.
I wasn't talking about his charitability. That is very respectable and in any case part of his personal life. Not for me to judge. To me pop music is industry that effectively mass produces singers and bands. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of originality in the industry either, because these products are pitched to appeal to the mass and so that the general public buys them. Britney Spears has had a very successful career, but again I don't consider her career respectable. The only pop musicians I respect are people like Madonna, Lady Gaga, Elton John (though he walks on the border of being a pop musician), Michael Jackson... those who were/are original and in a way trend setters. I'm sure the McFly band members are very talented. Just seem to me to be part of a big corporation that is all about the "selling". And I'm assuming this is why so many of their band members are taking part in reality shows lately. ![]() I don't think you can really call Madonna or Gaga, or even Michael Jackson musicians, they're singers for me and of the three, I only like Gaga, but I do recognise that she is copying her idol Madonna, but I think Gaga could sing and Madonna can't. (Sorry controversial, I know, but I saw Madonna live and she was appalling )I don't know why, all of a sudden, McFly are doing these reality shows, maybe it was for a bet, maybe it was to raise money for their causes (Tom did a celebrity edition of the Cube), maybe they wanted a challenge, but their band is still quite successful from what I can gather and if their songs come on the radio, I don't mind them, I may even have a couple on my ipod. But I do think, in selfish times like these, it's really nice to see young people giving back and doing something worthwhile for others (God, I sound like my mother )Sorry for the ramble but I actually think Harry deserves more credit, not less.
|
|
|
|
|
#115 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 18,242
|
Quote:
Ok, I realise that I may have offended McFly fans, and I apologise for that.
I wasn't talking about his charitability. That is very respectable and in any case part of his personal life. Not for me to judge. To me pop music is industry that effectively mass produces singers and bands. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of originality in the industry either, because these products are pitched to appeal to the mass and so that the general public buys them. Britney Spears has had a very successful career, but again I don't consider her career respectable. The only pop musicians I respect are people like Madonna, Lady Gaga, Elton John (though he walks on the border of being a pop musician), Michael Jackson... those who were/are original and in a way trend setters. I'm sure the McFly band members are very talented. Just seem to me to be part of a big corporation that is all about the "selling". And I'm assuming this is why so many of their band members are taking part in reality shows lately. They are not bad. They write their own songs, and I can see they have grown in their sound and identity. Okay, they are not The Beatles, but at least they are not those plastic boy bands like One Direction or The Wanted or JLS. So in that sense, I think Mcfly is more respectable compared to other boy bands out there. Of course this is just my personal opinions. Mcfly fans can obviously 'defend' their careers better than I ever can.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#116 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,909
|
If Harry doesn't win despite his carefully managed journey does that mean the judges will have to commit Harry-Kara?
*gets coat* *leaves* |
|
|
|
|
|
#117 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,811
|
Quote:
In terms of respectability, both Harry and Jason cannot be considered as has-beens at all. Both have steady entertainment industry-specific careers before joining SCD as celeb contestants.
It was Chelsee whose 'career' was in question. So far, like Kara, she only acted in one show. Whereas Kara was more well known because Eastenders often has 10+ million viewers, I don't think Chelsee (who didn't play the main role in Waterloo Road) was that well known. As we say we can't take anything for granted Tuffers had a voting base to win in the jungle but not Strictly. Also Chris Hollins was favorite to be voted out first. Until we see them dance on the night we won't know
|
|
|
|
|
|
#118 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 9,506
|
Quote:
Also don't forget that McFly have a lot of friends in the industry who tweeted their million+ followers to vote Dougie for the IAC final. This will probably repeat. Last time it was Glee stars, Draco Malfoy, One Direction etc.
But still, it all depends on the dances in the final. I think its very close. I guess you mean Tom Felton? I follow him, and he's a sweetie. |
|
|
|
|
|
#119 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,829
|
Quote:
BID - This made me laugh. A bit like Mickey Mouse signing all those petitions
I guess you mean Tom Felton? I follow him, and he's a sweetie.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#120 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: DOTS are evil!
Posts: 32,338
|
Quote:
LOL, yes, I did. I just didn't think anyone would know him by his real name. He is a sweetie.
![]() ah, but if you call them all by their proper surnames we'll know who they are! Harry McFly, Dougie McFly, Tom McFly and Danny McFly. ![]()
|
|
|
|
|
#121 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,070
|
Quote:
Hmm, I am not sure if posters here (not you) are just too sensitive or trying to be obtuse. Let me clarify myself.
I am speaking of here as Chelsee and Harry supporter. I do support Chelsee more than Harry truth be told. If it's on Harry's QS week, then yes I would actually vote for Harry to win. But if it's the jive week, then Chelsee wins hands down. Now all things being equal, between Chelsee and Harry, as both of them are EXCELLENT dancers with some natural abilities (Chelsee's natural sense of movement, esp. her upper body fluidity and Harry's natural sense of rhythm and his excellent top-line for ballroom etc.), I would say the Mcfly fan's votes will come into play. I would think under such circumstances, both of them will have supporters voting for them, but all things being equal, Harry WILL win because of the Mcfly fans-factor. Ganz klar? |
|
|
|
|
|
#122 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 18,242
|
Quote:
Not particularly you mentioned Dougie's victory in your original post to prove your point. When stats show that McFly fans or no McFly fans Dougie was behind celebrities with no established fanbase in the voting for much of his time in the jungle.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#123 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,811
|
Quote:
I am sure the post above me about Mcfly friends and fans tweetings in 'millions' to vote for Doughie for the final, actually that proves my point, isn't it?
As I said before people can tweet all they like, celebs can tweet all they like, people in your work place can say they support X Y & Z but we don't know if they are actually picking up a phone (& spending money) for them to win. |
|
|
|
|
|
#124 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,070
|
Quote:
I am sure the post above me about Mcfly friends and fans tweetings in 'millions' to vote for Doughie for the final, actually that proves my point, isn't it?
the fact is if you watch Im A Celeb or Strictly you will already have a favourite and will vote accordingly regardless of who Harry from One Direction tells you to vote for. Like wise if you do not watch your hardly going to be like "well I haven't ever watched IMACGMOOH but Arty from Gless says i've to vote for Dougie and we don't want to go disobeying Arty from Glee now do we?" Come on. All 3 of the Striclty finalists will have high profile supporters/fans who will no doubt tweet they want them to win, wither or not people spend money voting cause someone famous told them to on twitter is highly dubious imo |
|
|
|
|
|
#125 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 18,242
|
Quote:
All 3 of the Striclty finalists will have high profile supporters/fans who will no doubt tweet they want them to win, wither or not people spend money voting cause someone famous told them to on twitter is highly dubious imo
|
|
|
|
![]() |
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 06:25.






)
)