The Harry-Kara Parallels

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penguinperson

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Okay, iyo. But imo I still feel Mcfly fans will tip the balance, all things being equal. Just like when it comes to the final two in the jungle, I was told both Mark and Dougie were likable (in fact I read a lot of people were determined not to like Mark in the beginning), and the Mcfly fans factor tipped the balance. My opinion, of course.”

I'd say Dougie handled the last task better than Mark and that's what swung it. Think the same can be said for the dances they pick for the finals

LittleNothing

13-12-2011

slightly overlooking the fact that Mark has a large fanbase himself from TOWIE.....

Dorabella14

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“I liked:

Series 4: Mark Ramprakash and Louisa Litton
Series 5: Alesha Dixon
Series 6: Austin Healey
Series 7: No one.
Series 8: Kara Tointon

Series 9: Chelsee Healey followed by Harry Judd a country mile away. Jason, in comparison, is far away in Australia going by this distance analogy...”

I liked Tom Chambers and all of the above.

For Otto and me it's Chelsee all the way, as Pasha is a competition animal and will be working his girl till the last moment.

And should Jason win and embark upon a winner's analysis of the true situation as seen by ......I'll already be on a Virgin spacecraft to outer space.

SCD-Observer

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by LittleNothing:
“slightly overlooking the fact that Mark has a large fanbase himself from TOWIE.....”

Don't watch TOWIE but Mark struck me as very self-absorbed player. I was quite sure even fans of TOWIE won't necessarily vote for him seeing he dump a lot of women in that show?

Hello.

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by penguinperson:
“I'd say Dougie handled the last task better than Mark and that's what swung it. Think the same can be said for the dances they pick for the finals”

It was interesting that Dougie got both the anus AND the penis when they're seen as the worst. Mark just got fishy stuff and worms. Think that helped Dougie.

SCD-Observer

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by Hello.:
“It was interesting that Dougie got both the anus AND the penis when they're seen as the worst. Mark just got fishy stuff and worms. Think that helped Dougie.”

Anus and penis?

Well, going by that analogy (?) I think Harry will win since Chelsee doesn't have a penis though both have anuses...

LittleNothing

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Don't watch TOWIE but Mark struck me as very self-absorbed player. I was quite sure even fans of TOWIE won't necessarily vote for him seeing he dump a lot of women in that show?”

don't watch either all I know is all the women in work are ga ga over him and he was who they all seemed most excited about going into the jungle. Something about him being " missuderstood" and just needing to find the "right woman"

ah women and the workings of their minds can sometimes be a mystery even to a fellow female like myself

penguinperson

13-12-2011

True looking at the I'm a celebrity forum people were actively voting against him not to win

Hello.

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Anus and penis?

Well, going by that analogy (?) I think Harry will win since Chelsee doesn't have a penis though both have anuses...”

That is all.

frally

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Wasn't Tom Chambers the bookies' favourite to win? And he won?

Wasn't Mark Ramprakash bookies' favourite to win? And he won?

Wasn't Alesha Dixom bookies' favourite to win (in the finals, after Gethin)? And she won?”

Wasn't Ricky Whittle the bookies' favourite but Chris Hollins won instead?

Wasn't Colin Jackson the bookies' favourite but Darren Gough won instead?

LittleNothing

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by penguinperson:
“True looking at the I'm a celebrity forum people were actively voting against him not to win ”

I would take that with a pinch of salt. the Im A Celeb forum on here was so out of touch with what people were actually voting for. In fact it was like they were in their own little bubble.
Anthony Cotton was the devil incarnate and they were convinced that Fatima was going to win the voting figure did not tally with that outlook at all.

SCD-Observer

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by LittleNothing:
“don't watch either all I know is all the women in work are ga ga over him and he was who they all seemed most excited about going into the jungle. Something about him being " missuderstood" and just needing to find the "right woman"

ah women and the workings of their minds can sometimes be a mystery even to a fellow female like myself ”

I don't know. If you, being a woman, don't know how the minds of your own sexes work, then what hope is there for me as a man?

I only hope the 'news' I read in DS is not true, namely Mark's going to be Tesco's next poster boy. I will stop shopping there.

SCD-Observer

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by frally:
“Wasn't Ricky Whittle the bookies' favourite but Chris Hollins won instead?

Wasn't Colin Jackson the bookies' favourite but Darren Gough won instead?”

Not arguing that. Except it was posit-ed that bookies favs oftentimes don't win. And I've quoted three examples that it was not the case, that's all?

katkim

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by penguinperson:
“True looking at the I'm a celebrity forum people were actively voting against him not to win ”

Yes, no disrespect to Dougie (who I actually wanted to win) but I wouldn't underestimate the Anti-Mark vote. There was some feeling that ITV were pushing for him to win - a set-up showmance, majority of screen time, favourable edits etc. Plus, Mark is a marmite character, anyway.

Hello.

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by LittleNothing:
“I would take that with a pinch of salt. the Im A Celeb forum on here was so out of touch with what people were actually voting for. In fact it was like they were in their own little bubble.
Anthony Cotton was the devil incarnate and they were convinced that Fatima was going to win the voting figure did not tally with that outlook at all.”

You're right that they hated Antony, but they knew he would be popular. Much like Jason I guess, he's not popular on here but he clearly is with the general public.

With Fatima, they wanted her to win but expected Mark to (even though Dougie ended up doing so, but he was certainly second favourite to do so by the semi-final). Kind of like how a lot of people on here seem to want Chelsee to win but seem to think Harry will.

SCD-Observer

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by Hello.:
“With Fatima, they wanted her to win but expected Mark to (even though Dougie ended up doing so, but he was certainly second favourite to do so by the semi-final). Kind of like how a lot of people on here seem to want Chelsee to win but seem to think Harry will.”

Oh dear, now that anus and penis analogy is out of the way, if I understand your parallel above are you suggesting Jason will win???

penguinperson

13-12-2011

Fatima had a strange public vote. On one day she came bottom 2 the following day she came first just goes to show it's about what happens on the show. Sometimes she came across as good others not so good.

Hello.

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Oh dear, now that anus and penis analogy is out of the way, if I understand your parallel above are you suggesting Jason will win???”

No hahaha. Imagine.

katmobile

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“[/b] Nobody likes an old winner. Hollins was the oldest winner, at 39, and he only got away with that because he was the height and build of a toddler. Kara and Harry are both almost the youngest in their class, but in both cases there's someone a bit younger/less mature (Tiny Tina/Chelsee) to remind you they're still a grown-up.
”

How old was Ramps when he won because I seem to remember that he was on the older side as contestants go - late 30's at least.

penguinperson

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by katmobile:
“How old was Ramps when he won because I seem to remember that he was on the older side as contestants go - late 30's at least.”

37 y/o

TuscanSun

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Be nice and middle class : This goes for pretty much all Strictly winners, but remember that VT where Artem met Kara's parents? Remember how the romance seemed the most important aspect? WRONG. It was showing us all that they lived in a nice big house with high hedges and classy furnishings. Do we even need to start with Harry?”

This thread sounds like a Robert Ludlum novel.

Haven't got any hedges (high or otherwise) but have got a nice (and high) ivy-covered wall. Think that trumps any flora to be found at Tointon Towers.

Monkseal

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by frally:
“Wasn't Ricky Whittle the bookies' favourite but Chris Hollins won instead?

Wasn't Colin Jackson the bookies' favourite but Darren Gough won instead?”

Fairly sure Darren was favourite by the day of the final and 100% sure Chris was, unless someone knew some very slow bookmakers indeed.

penguinperson

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Fairly sure Darren was favourite by the day of the final and 100% sure Chris was, unless someone knew some very slow bookmakers indeed.”

Darren was never favorite with the bookies (unless it changed after the puppet dance went on air and changed)

Monkseal

13-12-2011

Jesus, how thick were gamblers that year? Who didn't know Gough was winning?

penguinperson

13-12-2011

Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Jesus, how thick were gamblers that year? Who didn't know Gough was winning?”

Dunno but day of the final Colin was favorite before the dance

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