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I decided to listen to Rock Music but it sounds just as same as Pop
I decided to listen to Rock Music but it sounds just as same as Pop or similar. The lyrics and sound are similar so I wonder why people underrate pop music compared to rock? I do understand that there are some artists like Bob Dylan and Jimi Hendrix who not only write about love songs but also about political issues, but mostly on the whole the songs of rock music and pop music sound similar, does anyone else agree, or disagree?
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There's a lot more similarities than differences
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There's a lot more similarities than differences
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Depends what you're defining as rock music and what you're defining as pop music. There's a huge difference in musical style between a group like Blur (pop) and a group like Def Lepard (rock).
People these days also tend to use "pop" differently than it was originally. Pop used to mean popular music and covered every genre, now people use it define a specific type of music. |
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Depends what you're defining as rock music and what you're defining as pop music. There's a huge difference in musical style between a group like Blur (pop) and a group like Def Lepard (rock).
People these days also tend to use "pop" differently than it was originally. Pop used to mean popular music and covered every genre, now people use it define a specific type of music. Pop and particularly rock music can be divided into a huge variety of subgenres, so to say that rock and pop are similar is a huge generalisation. King Crimson, Alcest and Refused are three rock bands off the top of my head that sound absolutely nothing alike, let alone like pop music. As for why rock is considered more credible, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that rock musicians, generally speaking, are more likely to write all of their own music and play their own instruments than pop artists, which makes their music more credible and convincing for a lot of people. Also, on the whole, rock music is less concerned with huge sales and high chart positions, so it is seen as more 'real' and more about the music, as opposed to pop which is often dismissed as merely a product to sell. Speaking as a fan of both rock and pop, I don't necessarily agree with these criticisms of pop, but I think these are generally the reasons why people think of it as less credible than rock. |
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OP what Rock music were you listening to though?
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I agree with the first part of this post, and there is a huge difference between a lot of pop and rock artists. I'm not entirely convinced by your categorisations of Blur and Def Leppard though, I would define Blur as indie rock or alternative rock rather than pop, and while I won't deny that Def Leppard are a rock band, they are certainly at the poppier end of rock music, particularly on albums like 'Hysteria'.
Pop and particularly rock music can be divided into a huge variety of subgenres, so to say that rock and pop are similar is a huge generalisation. King Crimson, Alcest and Refused are three rock bands off the top of my head that sound absolutely nothing alike, let alone like pop music. As for why rock is considered more credible, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that rock musicians, generally speaking, are more likely to write all of their own music and play their own instruments than pop artists, which makes their music more credible and convincing for a lot of people. Also, on the whole, rock music is less concerned with huge sales and high chart positions, so it is seen as more 'real' and more about the music, as opposed to pop which is often dismissed as merely a product to sell. Speaking as a fan of both rock and pop, I don't necessarily agree with these criticisms of pop, but I think these are generally the reasons why people think of it as less credible than rock. |
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Pop - One Direction
Rock - Guns n' Roses Now go and listen again............................ I rest my case ![]() ![]()
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It's funny that you say that because my favourite types of music are pop and rock. I like both. There are some similariites in that both are based around melody and also a song structure of verse bridge and chorus.
Whereas other types of music are more repetitive and are more based around rhythms like techno and hip hop which I generally don't like. |
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There are many sub genres of Rock and some of them are quite poppy but you should expand into other areas of rock. Start with well known bands like ACDC or Led Zeppelin and your experience will grow from there. Mine did.
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I agree with the first part of this post, and there is a huge difference between a lot of pop and rock artists. I'm not entirely convinced by your categorisations of Blur and Def Leppard though, I would define Blur as indie rock or alternative rock rather than pop, and while I won't deny that Def Leppard are a rock band, they are certainly at the poppier end of rock music, particularly on albums like 'Hysteria'..
AV Revolution have a good chart of their top 100 rock bands here and it's interesting to see what they define as "rock". As I said before, it really depends on what people mean when they say pop. I completely agree with the second half of your post though. Rock bands tend to make their money from album sales and tour revenue alongside merchandise rather than direct from the sale of singles. |
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As Candiva highlighted,"'Pop' used to mean popular music..." and was used as a catch-all term for the many different genres of 'popular' music. However, it seems to be increasingly used now to define a specific type of music or what the user of the term seems to identify as being 'pop' music. Quote:
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Pop and particularly rock music can be divided into a huge variety of subgenres, so to say that rock and pop are similar is a huge generalisation... Equally I don't think it's as easy to differentiate between rock and pop by saying: - rock is less mainstream than pop - you only get long instrumental (particularly guitar) solos in rock music - rock singers tend to sing about more "edgy" things than pop singers Going back to the classic use of the words 'pop music,' rock was one of the forms that developed - like most forms, its origins lie in rhythm and blues (and can be traced further than that too) and hence distinguishing between rock and pop isn't always a strict separation. However, I do think you can identify rock songs so I'd recommend that the OP does a little more listening. |
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A some rock music sounds like pop music because some rock music is pop music.
Simple as that. Similarly, some rock music is well written and full of artistic merit, some is just comercial fodder. Some pop music is well written and full of artistic merit, some just comercial fodder. Anyone one that tells you all pop is better than rock or vice versa, is ..... well lets be charitable and say they are being a bit silly, and a bit of a zealot one way or the other. |
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pigeon holing music is a bit naff anyway.
Who's to say what's pop and what's rock. What about when genres merge? Pop/rock? Power ballad? country/rock etc etc. Music is music, if you something, does it matter what genre it's supposed to be? |
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pigeon holing music is a bit naff anyway.
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Depends what you're defining as rock music and what you're defining as pop music. There's a huge difference in musical style between a group like Blur (pop) and a group like Def Lepard (rock).
People these days also tend to use "pop" differently than it was originally. Pop used to mean popular music and covered every genre, now people use it define a specific type of music. which are the Smiths for example? |
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I don't think music should be pigeon holed - and I don't really agree with some views that music is credible some not. Music cuts across age, gender, race etc and I just couldn't imagine a life without music.
I just love a wide range of artists from Bryan Adams (I would call this rock), opera, classical, Adele, Leona - all these artists and loads more bring music to my ears and and I would never dismiss music in any shape or form as not credible, so I really don't think that you can define between 1 genre & another such as rock or pop, or RnB, there is a lot of crossover. |
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I'm guessing you've listened to some pop/rock fluff, this isn't true rock to my ears! I love all good music though be it pop (depends on how people define pop, if it's popular is it automatically pop?) or any other genre!
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i don't think anyone has ever come up with a definitive distinction between rock and pop...except you know it when you hear it, or do you?
which are the Smiths for example? In addition, not a 'straight' rock band, as they are not heavily guitar led. So you need 'indie/alternative' to cover them. |
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Pop - One Direction
Rock - Guns n' Roses Now go and listen again............................ I rest my case ![]() ![]() ![]() Quote:
There are many sub genres of Rock and some of them are quite poppy but you should expand into other areas of rock. Start with well known bands like ACDC or Led Zeppelin and your experience will grow from there. Mine did.
There are good, very different songs of either genre about. |
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You could never ever describe the 'Smiths' as 'pop music'. I think Morrisey would probably throw a stick of celery at you or something for that.
In addition, not a 'straight' rock band, as they are not heavily guitar led. So you need 'indie/alternative' to cover them. |
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A couple of their singles were definitely poppy.
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OP what Rock music were you listening to though?
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This is kind of related to the thread, but I was wondering, if, say, Britney Spears, sang over the instrumental of an ACDC song on her new album (so she sampled it), would that be considered a rock song?
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