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The Ratings Thread (Part 29)
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dubsj
02-01-2012
Got To Dance 641,000 - peaked at 1m.

John Thaw on ITV1 1.8m.

ITV1s share for the day 11%
Glenn A
02-01-2012
Nothing, barring ITV1 showing a Coronation St where the Rovers Return blows up, would have beaten EE last night. 3.5 million isn't bad considering some of ITV's ratings last year.
Also this high rating for EE might make the BBC consider showing a few more specials on Sundays.
dubsj
02-01-2012
Ab Fab 7.1m / 28.3%
ftv
02-01-2012
Robbie is suspiciously quiet - I wonder if his broadband has gone down
iaindb
02-01-2012
Harry Potter took 522k on +1 but its excl +1 audience only a little way ahead of BBC2's Great Barrier Reef with 3.02m

Even the repeat of Ratatouilie on BBC3 managed 1.02m, although that started as Sherlock and Potter were finishing.
rzt
02-01-2012
Dubsj- what did Bolt average on BBC1?

Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Harry Potter took 522k on +1 but its excl +1 audience only a little way ahead of BBC2's Great Barrier Reef with 3.02m”

BBC Two had a good evening yesterday, especially at 8pm. Harry Potter looks a bit more respectable at 4m (inc +1) but still at least a million lower than where it ought to have been.
iaindb
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by dubsj:
“Ab Fab 7.1m / 28.3%”

Another good performance for it.
Glenn A
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by dubsj:
“Ab Fab 7.1m / 28.3%”

Good, I think BBC One has had an excellent night.
It will be interesting this year to see if BBC One can keep up the momentum, and they have the monopoly on the Olympics and half of the Euros to keep going through the summer months. While ITV's drama output is strong, and they still have their four reality/ talent hits to come this year, they really need to strengthen their other entertainment and breakfast/morning output as last year saw Daybreak continue to stall and a long list of entertainment flops.
Dancc
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by dubsj:
“Ab Fab 7.1m / 28.3%”

Crumbs. This is looking bad for me on the RPG.
rzt
02-01-2012
New Year's Day 2012 Overnights
BBC One
19:00- EastEnders: 9.76m (36%)
* peak: 11.22m (39%)
20:00- Sherlock: 8.75m (30.9%)
* peak: 9.52m
21:40- Absolutely Fabulous: 7.1m (28.3%)

BBC Two
20:00- Great Barrier Reef 3.02m (10.6%)
21:00- A History of Ancient Britain Special 2.26m (8.3%)

ITV1
19:00- Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince: 3.45m (12.5%) , +1: 522k (2%)
21:45- The Unforgettable... John Thaw: 1.8m

Channel 4
20:00- The Hotel: 1.78m (6.2%) , +1 316k (1.2%)
21:00- Bear's Wild Weekend: 1.67m (6.1%) , +1 378k (1.7%)

Channel 5
19:00- World's Strongest Man: 1.47m (5.4%)
20:00- An Audience with Dame Edna: 423k (1.5%)

BBC Three
21:40- Ratatouille: 1.02m (4.8%)
23:20- EastEnders: 736k (6.6%)

Sky1
18:00- Got To Dance: 641,000
* peak: 1.0m
19:00- Treasure Island: 1.01m
* peak: 1.17m
21:00- Hawaii 5-O: 655k

Primetime Shares
BBC One: 30.2%
ITV1: 11% (+1: 1.6%)
BBC Two: 9.4%
Channel 4: 5.1%
Channel 5: 3.3%

Ratings include HD and are full-slot averages

Sources: DS, dubsj, John Williams, Michael Rosser
xfactorfan27
02-01-2012
Does anyone know how the Adele special rated on BBC1? I note that her album has risen back to the no.1 spot on iTunes and a handful of her singles have also risen markedly!
Glenn A
02-01-2012
If you add the BBC Three repeat to EE's BBC One figure, 10.5 million is very good. Ouch for John Thaw, though, I thought an Unforgettable based on such a good actor deserved 3 million.
RobbieSykes123
02-01-2012
That EE peaked at 11.2m but only averaged 9.7m confirms that millions were caught out by the Sunday showing/early slot.

Looks like millions switched off Sherlock in first 5 mins, and I wonder if the lengthy reshowing of the final scene from s1 put off new viewers. Couldn't see the point of the pre titles stuff as it had nothing to do with what followed so far as l can discern. I shall have to rewatch in iPlayer and see if it makes more sense, clearly if it averaged nearly 9m it must have done something right. Tough battle for it next week, will probably knock at least a million off.

Strong for AbFab, held up well on the xmas day ep.

What a disaster of disasters for ITV. Suspect I'm not the only person with a bad headache this morning!
RobbieSykes123
02-01-2012
Christmas Dramas Battle

1. Sherlock 8.8m
2. Downton Abbey 8.1m

How did that happen?

Has Fincham fallen on his sword yet?

Glenn A
02-01-2012
ITV1 can relax tonight as its two big soaps are back on. Usually the first week of January sees CS and Emmerdale up by a million for some reason, maybe bad weather and the return to work.
mossy2103
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“That EE peaked at 11.2m but only averaged 9.7m confirms that millions were caught out by the Sunday showing/early slot.”

If so, then it makes me wonder why some people would not be able to read a listing magazine, the TV listings in the newspapers, or even the EPG.
derek500
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Christmas Dramas Battle

1. Sherlock 8.8m
2. Downton Abbey 8.1m

How did that happen?”

Because there were no ad breaks in Sherlock to bring the average down? Same length programme but 35 minutes of Downton's 2h5m slot wasn't Downton!!
excel99
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Ouch for John Thaw, though, I thought an Unforgettable based on such a good actor deserved 3 million.”

Non-complementary lead in from Harry Potter. I can see why ITV wanted to schedule it last night considering Endeavor, but it could have got a far better slot at 8 or 9pm last week
RobbieSykes123
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Because there were no ad breaks in Sherlock to bring the average down? Same length programme but 35 minutes of Downton's 2h5m slot wasn't Downton!!”

I think DA only went up to 8.2m without ads included.
Steve Williams
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“It's one of the most baffling scheduling decisions of the year. Perhaps that's where BBC
1 found it's extra million viewers.”

Well, you say that, but Graham Norton's shows on BBC1 never ran up until midnight, albeit they were followed by the fireworks and that. And some pre-recorded midnight shows are awful, not something like Jools Holland but in 2001 BBC1 did an atrocious Jonathan Ross show which was just a bog-standard chat show with hopeless in-house Beeb standby guests like Ulrika, and I remember Vinnie Jones appearing at five to midnight and plugging his film, which was appalling, an utterly miserable affair.

Someone here the other week speculated about the lead-in for New Year Live but if there's ever a show that doesn't need a lead-in, it's that.

Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“New Years Eve I could understand but surprised they didn't do something on Boxing Day. Indeed I'm sure in the first year of their contract the BBC were forced to put extra shows in the schedules at times when they tried to get away without them.

It also highlights one of the issues with the Football League Show. IMO it would be better scheduled (or at least repeated) the next day (around Noon on BBC2) than in it's late night post-MOTD slot, and I'm sure the BBC could have accomodated a show this afternoon. They may blame the budget, but all goals are still being filmed for the website so it's not like they're saving the total cost.

BTW, how well does the show usually rate on Saturday nights, and how does this compare to The Championships last season or two on ITV?”

In the first season, the plan was not to do shows in international weekends when there were no Championship fixtures, which is what ITV did as well, only for the contract to suggest otherwise, so they have done that. The only time they don't have to do one is during FA Cup third and fourth round weekends, like this Saturday when there are only nine fixtures in the league.

In previous seasons they have done Boxing Day shows but it's not just the cost of the rights that have to be taken into consideration but the cost of mounting the show. ITV didn't always do Boxing Day shows either.

As for the ratings, I would suggest the audience at midnight on Saturday is the same as at 10am on Sunday, I think it gets about a million which I reckon would be broadly similar to ITV. Perhaps more, actually, given the better lead-in and its bounce around the schedule on ITV.

Speaking of football, ITV's FA Cup highlights on Saturday are at 11.30, which is pathetic, after a repeat of Celebrity Juice. Be different if there was a live game earlier where they could have shown the goals, but no, this is the only FA Cup coverage on ITV all day. If the Beeb had done this there'd be uproar.

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Even if Sherlock did hold off Potter tonight, I suspect it will be crushed by ITV's combination of DOI and Wild at Heart next week. Even if tonights had lived up to the.substantial hype, it would still have lost out to the toughest competition it has yet faced next week.”

The moral here is not to post when you're drunk. I can't see Wild at Heart being very strong competition either, it's about the umpteenth series and I think only the DoI sandwich is responsible for its decent ratings. Sherlock is a proper hit show and last night's was brilliant. It was a fantastic BBC1 line-up.

Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“Wow that is so bad, I wonder if viewers thought it was a repeat showing? With so many HP films it can be confusing for viewers.”

Indeed, the fact there's one on today won't help, and that one that was on the Strictly final day (in fact my mum thought that one was a premiere, I had to explain it wasn't). I wonder if they could have done what they sometimes do with film premieres and show it again next Saturday teatime.
Wozza20
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Christmas Dramas Battle

1. Sherlock 8.8m
2. Downton Abbey 8.1m

How did that happen?

Has Fincham fallen on his sword yet?

”

Rather than some vague, wierd attack on ITV and Fincham, do you not think it's great that the number 1 state PSB broadcaster and the number 1 commercial PSB broadcaster have been able to deliver new drama over Christmas with over 8million viewers for a single episode?

Also, you say 8.2million for Downton without adverts, rtz shows 8.5m with the data he has. Plus you've rounded Sherlock up to 8.8m when it could be 8.7m. And you ignore ITV+1 as it suits your agenda...

So, we now have the following:

Sherlock 8.7 (poss 8.8m)
Downton Abbey 8.9m (inc +1, exc adverts)

You call it spin, I say it's facts which you will ignore as it doesn't suit you. Perhaps Fincham will not be jumping onto any swords yet...
iaindb
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“That EE peaked at 11.2m but only averaged 9.7m confirms that millions were caught out by the Sunday showing/early slot.

Looks like millions switched off Sherlock in first 5 mins, and I wonder if the lengthy reshowing of the final scene from s1 put off new viewers. .
”

I imagine the EE peak was at the end with a lot of people just tuning in to see the death scene.

Plus not all Sherlock viewers would have watched EE so that peak may include those viewers switching on Sherlock early (and watching the death scene, the voyeurs!)

Sherlock's peak will include non-Sherlock EE viewers taking 5 minutes to find a newspaper to see what else is on.
Glenn A
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by excel99:
“Non-complementary lead in from Harry Potter. I can see why ITV wanted to schedule it last night considering Endeavor, but it could have got a far better slot at 8 or 9pm last week”

Completely different programmes, a film about a teenage wizard popular mostly with young people and an actor whose fan base tended to be older. However, once the +1 is included, reasonable figure for Harry Potter against such strong opposition.
Wozza20
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I think DA only went up to 8.2m without ads included.”

Really?

That shocks me!
So, does this mean on average, only approx 0.1m out of 8.2m on average have avoided the adverts?

Or is it that 10m+ are watching the programme for example, but only 5m approx are watching the adverts for 35mins of the slot bringing the average down???
derek500
02-01-2012
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“I imagine the EE peak was at the end with a lot of people just tuning in to see the death scene.

Plus not all Sherlock viewers would have watched EE so that peak may include those viewers switching on Sherlock early (and watching the death scene, the voyeurs!)

Sherlock's peak will include non-Sherlock EE viewers taking 5 minutes to find a newspaper to see what else is on.”

The strange 8.10pm start time would caused some confusion. Even the ratings above show Sherlock as 8pm.
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