Anyone got the overnights for Got to Dance on Sky1 last night at 6pm please, my brother keeps going on at me 
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The Ratings Thread (Part 29)
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Originally Posted by MG:
“In total 11.6 million viewers watched the Christmas Day episode of Downton Abbey over the festive period.
This compares with EastEnders which saw its consolidated audience rise to 11.3 million, after viewing on catchup services such as BBC iPlayer and personal video recorders such as Sky+ added about 1.5 million to its total audience.”
“In total 11.6 million viewers watched the Christmas Day episode of Downton Abbey over the festive period.
This compares with EastEnders which saw its consolidated audience rise to 11.3 million, after viewing on catchup services such as BBC iPlayer and personal video recorders such as Sky+ added about 1.5 million to its total audience.”
Only Virgin Media (and BT Vision?) iPlayer viewings are added, not PC-based ones...
K
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Thats what I meant! People are posting things that are suggesting EE was beaten by DA when infact on Christmas day itself it most certainly wasn't. EastEnders WAS the show on Christmas Day itself that more people chose to watch. It is the people who are spinning the consolidated figures into making it appear that DA beat EE on Christmas Day that is bugging me. I am pleased that DA did brilliantly. It is about time ITV started making an effort and producing shows of this calibre. But, overall, everyone needs to understand that EE is still the Christmas Day winner with DA being the most watched Christmas Day show overall.”
“Thats what I meant! People are posting things that are suggesting EE was beaten by DA when infact on Christmas day itself it most certainly wasn't. EastEnders WAS the show on Christmas Day itself that more people chose to watch. It is the people who are spinning the consolidated figures into making it appear that DA beat EE on Christmas Day that is bugging me. I am pleased that DA did brilliantly. It is about time ITV started making an effort and producing shows of this calibre. But, overall, everyone needs to understand that EE is still the Christmas Day winner with DA being the most watched Christmas Day show overall.”
This viewpoint has never been mentioned before so I find it strange that it is suddenly being discussed now
It's becoming increasingly clear that there are only two outcomes to any ratings result, either the BBC wins or the BBC wins.
'That Sunday Night Show' is coming back for a 3rd series
In series three, Ross Noble will be joining Adrian as a regular guest for the first six episodes. Other guests now confirmed include showbiz legend Des O'Connor, Spice Girl Melanie C, Downton Abbey's Dan Stevens, lawyer Nancy Dell'Olio, Kevin Bridges, John Prescott & Anne Robinson.
The show will be recorded at Riverside Studios, Hammersmith on Friday evenings in January, February & March 2012 and booking is now open.
In series three, Ross Noble will be joining Adrian as a regular guest for the first six episodes. Other guests now confirmed include showbiz legend Des O'Connor, Spice Girl Melanie C, Downton Abbey's Dan Stevens, lawyer Nancy Dell'Olio, Kevin Bridges, John Prescott & Anne Robinson.
The show will be recorded at Riverside Studios, Hammersmith on Friday evenings in January, February & March 2012 and booking is now open.
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Indeed. I think it's safe to assume, that as far as Christmas is concerned, it is the overnights that get the level of importance that final figures do throughout the year. After all, on Boxing Day, virtually all newspapers made a big deal about EastEnders "trouncing" Downton Abbey.
How on earth would they now say that although EastEnders trounced Downton, Downton also trounced EastEnders?”
“Indeed. I think it's safe to assume, that as far as Christmas is concerned, it is the overnights that get the level of importance that final figures do throughout the year. After all, on Boxing Day, virtually all newspapers made a big deal about EastEnders "trouncing" Downton Abbey.
How on earth would they now say that although EastEnders trounced Downton, Downton also trounced EastEnders?”
They reported SCD beating TXF twice jumping the gun by comparing the peaks one week and then reporting it again when the actual full programme beat it.
At the end of the day, the papers won't report it as no normal people care anymore. This also means that nonsense that some went with here about Downton's image being damaged for good is complete rubbish. If the public aren't interested in Christmas Day ratings one week later, they aren't going to remember what they were come September when Downton starts to air again!
Bugger. Might have known the Beeb would be among the first to report ITV's triumph.
Still at least it gives the full story (although fails to mention that the "full consolidation" approach puts EE back in front.)
Safe to say this may well now be in tomorrow's papers - good.chance for some gratuitous Beeb bashing....
Originally Posted by dubsj:
“I see on twitter that Got To Dance did 485k last night and episode 1 is up to 789k with playback.”
“I see on twitter that Got To Dance did 485k last night and episode 1 is up to 789k with playback.”
It helped contribute to a super strong 1.4% share for Sky1 yesterday, placing the channel comfortably ahead of FTA heavyweights such as E4, 5USA and ITV4 (0.9% each inc. +1) and narrowly in front of More4 (1.3% inc. +1) in the rankings according to C4 Sales.
That'll do me. I was only concerned for Downton you see. Robbie was constantly informing us that it would damage its PR! So I only wanted it rectified...
The overall conclusion here is how we are discussing (at great length) who won Christmas Day as the figures are so close.
I thought the BBC was supposed to trounce ITV by a great margin?
This has changed the Christmas Day landscape for the next few years. No longer does the BBC hold all the cards.
Very similar to what panned out over Autumn Saturdays but with the winner being the opposite channel.
I thought the BBC was supposed to trounce ITV by a great margin?
This has changed the Christmas Day landscape for the next few years. No longer does the BBC hold all the cards.
Very similar to what panned out over Autumn Saturdays but with the winner being the opposite channel.
Originally Posted by dubsj:
“I see on twitter that Got To Dance did 485k last night and episode 1 is up to 789k with playback.”
“I see on twitter that Got To Dance did 485k last night and episode 1 is up to 789k with playback.”
brilliant, thanks
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“This viewpoint has never been mentioned before so I find it strange that it is suddenly being discussed now
It's becoming increasingly clear that there are only two outcomes to any ratings result, either the BBC wins or the BBC wins.”
“This viewpoint has never been mentioned before so I find it strange that it is suddenly being discussed now
It's becoming increasingly clear that there are only two outcomes to any ratings result, either the BBC wins or the BBC wins.”
Neither was your 'events should be separated from the year's top progammes (so that ITV wins)' viewpoint or something like that, but that didn't stop you.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Bugger. Might have known the Beeb would be among the first to report ITV's triumph.
Still at least it gives the full story (although fails to mention that the "full consolidation" approach puts EE back in front.)
Safe to say this may well now be in tomorrow's papers - good.chance for some gratuitous Beeb bashing....”
“Bugger. Might have known the Beeb would be among the first to report ITV's triumph.
Still at least it gives the full story (although fails to mention that the "full consolidation" approach puts EE back in front.)
Safe to say this may well now be in tomorrow's papers - good.chance for some gratuitous Beeb bashing....”
Of course, give it a couple of weeks for the PC-based iPlayer and ITVPlayer requests to get collated and there's an opportunity for it to switch around again! EE regularly gets around 500k requests (but who knows how much of the show gets watched by that number!) - I don't know if ITV ever reported what DA got on their player recently?
K
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“(for some reason unbeknownst to me, as the BBC has lots of advantages over commercial TV that get ignored)”
“(for some reason unbeknownst to me, as the BBC has lots of advantages over commercial TV that get ignored)”
Probably the most important point you've made for a while
It's easier to get high figures in the overnights when you aren't airing about 15 mins of commercials per hour!
Originally Posted by wildbenji64:
“Neither was your 'events should be separated from the year's top progammes (so that ITV wins)' viewpoint or something like that, but that didn't stop you.”
“Neither was your 'events should be separated from the year's top progammes (so that ITV wins)' viewpoint or something like that, but that didn't stop you.”
I never said that. I said the endless 'Cowell will be annoyed that he has been beaten by the Royal Wedding' posts are stupid, constantly comparing tv programmes to televised national events, as if they are any way comparable.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
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trickytree1979, if you have the information (and can publish them on here without getting into trouble!), do you have:........”
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trickytree1979, if you have the information (and can publish them on here without getting into trouble!), do you have:........
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On the train home now (8% more expensive....I wonder whether I'll get home 8% quicker?) but will try and have a look tomorrow. Reading the forum today has been good, lots it seems to catch up with.
Originally Posted by dubsj:
“I see on twitter that Got To Dance did 485k last night and episode 1 is up to 789k with playback.”
“I see on twitter that Got To Dance did 485k last night and episode 1 is up to 789k with playback.”
Thanks dubsj.
Whilst still good for Sky1, GTD has got off to an underwhelmig start this year. Last year it debuted with 853k and improved to 1.13m for the second episode (which aired straight after the first, at 7pm). Last night's episode has an excuse as it aired in an unusual slot for the sho, but Sunday's debut was quite low by GTD standards. Sky will be hoping that it just got overshadowed a bit on NYD and that it'll bounce back this week.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“The overall conclusion here is how we are discussing (at great length) who won Christmas Day as the figures are so close.
I thought the BBC was supposed to trounce ITV by a great margin?
This has changed the Christmas Day landscape for the next few years. No longer does the BBC hold all the cards.
Very similar to what panned out over Autumn Saturdays but with the winner being the opposite channel.”
“The overall conclusion here is how we are discussing (at great length) who won Christmas Day as the figures are so close.
I thought the BBC was supposed to trounce ITV by a great margin?
This has changed the Christmas Day landscape for the next few years. No longer does the BBC hold all the cards.
Very similar to what panned out over Autumn Saturdays but with the winner being the opposite channel.”
The state of play between the two channels hasn't changed on Christmas night itself. BBC1's highest rated show 9.9m still beat ITV1's highest rated show 9.3m inc.+1 (which wasn't even DA) in the overnights. All that's happened is ITV has become stronger once the consolidated ratings are taken into account.
The real test for Downton Abbey will be next Christmas when the novelty has worn off and BBC1 should be stronger in the 10pm hour presuming it keeps to the same runtime.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I never said that. I said the endless 'Cowell will be annoyed that he has been beaten by the Royal Wedding' posts are stupid, constantly comparing tv programmes to televised national events, as if they are any way comparable.”
“I never said that. I said the endless 'Cowell will be annoyed that he has been beaten by the Royal Wedding' posts are stupid, constantly comparing tv programmes to televised national events, as if they are any way comparable.”
But some people bizzarely see BGT/XF as national events.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I never said that. I said the endless 'Cowell will be annoyed that he has been beaten by the Royal Wedding' posts are stupid, constantly comparing tv programmes to televised national events, as if they are any way comparable.”
“I never said that. I said the endless 'Cowell will be annoyed that he has been beaten by the Royal Wedding' posts are stupid, constantly comparing tv programmes to televised national events, as if they are any way comparable.”
This is a thread to talk about ratings. No way should the ratings for events such as the Royal Wedding be ignored just because it's not a regular TV programme. Nowhere does it say talk about ratings for regular TV shows only.
Originally Posted by trickytree1979:
“On the train home now (8% more expensive....I wonder whether I'll get home 8% quicker?) but will try and have a look tomorrow. Reading the forum today has been good, lots it seems to catch up with.”
“On the train home now (8% more expensive....I wonder whether I'll get home 8% quicker?) but will try and have a look tomorrow. Reading the forum today has been good, lots it seems to catch up with.”
Thank you trickytree1979.
"Reading the forum today has been good", ah, good, we're not running around in circles just yet!
Re Christmas Day - if ever there was a case of being able to take factual statistics and spin then whatever you way you want, then the EE/DA ratings have to be it
Though if you want to confuse things even more, how about including the EE omnibus and DA New Years Day repeat
There is just one point I would like to make:
The BBC have their reasons for doing that. However I usually end up watching EE on BBC3, not BBC1, including on Christmas Day. If you are comparing overall programme ratings on Christmas Day it seems wrong to exclude viewers myself who watched EE on Christmas Day only on BBC3
Clearly ITV1 had the biggest show on terrestrial tv on Christmas Day - so lets just say well done to both EE, DA, the BBC and ITV
Yes. But worth remembering a decent number of BBC3 viewers (such as myself) would be watching on iPlayer, or not at all, if it wasn't for BBC3
Explains why it had a 35 minute repeat slot on BBC3 last night
And an enjoyable show too
Nice to see EE over 10m, and Farewell Pat did decently. Unless it was old footage, nice to see Barbara Windsor back on Farewell Pat
Decent rating in tough slot
Moving onto tonight I'm curious how C5's Thirteen: Conspiracy will do. I think I'm actually going to give it a try. Not a film, but it is 2 hours 35 minutes, giving it a 11.35pm finish which might hurt the rating. And before that C5 have Cowboy Builders, which has been given a boost by last minute Panorama opposition, so should rate well for C5
Also seen some 'When Paddy met Sally' trailers (on nect Monday) and it doesn't look that bad actually.
Though if you want to confuse things even more, how about including the EE omnibus and DA New Years Day repeat
There is just one point I would like to make:
Originally Posted by LadyOfShalott:
“But the BBC doesn't include BBC3 ratings.”
“But the BBC doesn't include BBC3 ratings.”
The BBC have their reasons for doing that. However I usually end up watching EE on BBC3, not BBC1, including on Christmas Day. If you are comparing overall programme ratings on Christmas Day it seems wrong to exclude viewers myself who watched EE on Christmas Day only on BBC3
Clearly ITV1 had the biggest show on terrestrial tv on Christmas Day - so lets just say well done to both EE, DA, the BBC and ITV
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“That repeat showing is damaging EE's first showing reported ratings all year round,”
“That repeat showing is damaging EE's first showing reported ratings all year round,”
Yes. But worth remembering a decent number of BBC3 viewers (such as myself) would be watching on iPlayer, or not at all, if it wasn't for BBC3
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“Yes it was over 30mins. I looked at the clock at 8:32 and the episode was still going strong with people in the vic (David and Derek )
I know there's a 40min special on 13th Jan (8-840) but tonight's was just down for 8-830”
“Yes it was over 30mins. I looked at the clock at 8:32 and the episode was still going strong with people in the vic (David and Derek )
I know there's a 40min special on 13th Jan (8-840) but tonight's was just down for 8-830”
Explains why it had a 35 minute repeat slot on BBC3 last night
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Countdown, feat. the 8 Out of 10 Cats lot, drew 2.04m (7.8%) - making it the most-watched show of Channel 4 Mash Up night.”
“Countdown, feat. the 8 Out of 10 Cats lot, drew 2.04m (7.8%) - making it the most-watched show of Channel 4 Mash Up night.”
And an enjoyable show too
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Monday 2nd January Overnights
20:00- EastEnders: 10.3m (36.6%)
20:30- EastEnders: Farewell Pat: 4.6m (16.5%)”
“Monday 2nd January Overnights
20:00- EastEnders: 10.3m (36.6%)
20:30- EastEnders: Farewell Pat: 4.6m (16.5%)”
Nice to see EE over 10m, and Farewell Pat did decently. Unless it was old footage, nice to see Barbara Windsor back on Farewell Pat
Originally Posted by rzt:
“20:00- Cornwall with Caroline Quentin: 4.1m (14.6%)”
“20:00- Cornwall with Caroline Quentin: 4.1m (14.6%)”
Decent rating in tough slot
Moving onto tonight I'm curious how C5's Thirteen: Conspiracy will do. I think I'm actually going to give it a try. Not a film, but it is 2 hours 35 minutes, giving it a 11.35pm finish which might hurt the rating. And before that C5 have Cowboy Builders, which has been given a boost by last minute Panorama opposition, so should rate well for C5
Also seen some 'When Paddy met Sally' trailers (on nect Monday) and it doesn't look that bad actually.
Originally Posted by mattpinder:
“Holby City back on, Public Enemies gone!”
“Holby City back on, Public Enemies gone!”
Talk about indecisive...
Probably the right decision though. Think it deserves a 9pm slot.
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