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Well, other than the Military Awards - possibly - and the Royal review against the NT repeat, they might not win another 9pm battle now, in the overnights at least
, until Endeavour on the 2nd.And even that might not win, although I think it probably should. |
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apart from the 25th of course. and they are competitive all next week also.
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Poor for the Comedy Awards on Channel 4, in the wrong slot against comedy on BBC1. Three nights in a row ITV1 has won the 9pm slot which is unusual in the run-up to Christmas, although obviously that run will come to an end tonight.
Obviously the main focus is how close can Strictly get to The X Factor Final's overnight figure from last weekend, it should be in the ~12m range at least I would have thought, probably higher. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix should do well against the first Strictly and Merlin on ITV1 with ~4.5m/5m however the second Strictly well doesn't have much in terms of competition, I don't see Westlife's show putting up much of a fight. Last year we had: Obviously no one expects Strictly's figures to be as high last year, but at the same point I don't expect it to be too much lower. Saturday 10th April 2010, 7pm: 5.7m (25.7%) Sunday 19th December 2010, 6:30pm: 5.82m (21.2%) Saturday 13th August 2011, 6:25pm: 5.75m (28.9%) (inc +1) As you can see it's done really good business for them over the last couple of years, sometimes in some tricky slots (the second screening was against SPOTY) and I'm sure it'll hold up OK tonight, but I'm thinking more high-3s/low-4s. Westlife won't do well but should do better than Bridget Jones last year (c3m I reckon). Good for BBC1 and ITV1 last night, but low for The Comedy Awards. |
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To add to that: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16216131
Blue Peter - Average viewing figures 2011 - 370,000 (year to date) 2010 - 440,000 2009 - 430,000 2008 - 580,000 (timeslot changes in August) 2007 - 920,000 2006 - 940,000 2005 - 1,080,000 2004 - 1,310,000 2003 - 1,520,000 2002 - 1,460,000 Why did it's timeslot change in 2008? Was that due to The Weakest Link? Not unusual as such, but unusual due to the fact that mid December tends to be an ITV weak spot in the schedules. Now here's a real curved ball that might help BBC One in the 5-6 hour, how about BP at 5.05 and Doctors at 5.30. |
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Worrying reading and I think moving BP hasn't helped. Now the Weakest Link has died, might it make more sense to move BP to 5.05.
Now here's a real curved ball that might help BBC One in the 5-6 hour, how about BP at 5.05 and Doctors at 5.30. |
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Well it's not going to happen - Pointless is doing brilliantly and kids programmes are being moved off BBC1 entirely in the next year. Blue Peter has at least been given a good slot at 5.45 on CBBC.
Actually a childless BBC One will be interesting. I do remember in the mid eighties between 5 and 6 they ran re runs of Star Trek and Doctor Kildare, which went down well. |
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I suppose this is part of their cost cutting and in a way it makes sense not duplicating programming. Also on CBBC BP could justify its low ratings and given a new lease of life. However, I still think Doctors at 5.30 could work as soaps at 5.30 on BBC One have done well in the past.
Actually a childless BBC One will be interesting. I do remember in the mid eighties between 5 and 6 they ran re runs of Star Trek and Doctor Kildare, which went down well. Doctors a 5.30 would be a good idea. |
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Blue peter needs to go to CBBC. My son was watching CBBC the other day and something come on that he didn't like. I told him he could switch to BBC One he looked at me with a blank face. He didn't know that children's programs were even on BBC One. To us that seems strange because that's what we grew up with.Nowadays kids just automaticly turn to a children's channel because they know thats where there programs are. I think its possible Blue peter could match its current performance on CBBC in a few years time.
Doctors a 5.30 would be a good idea. |
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I think 12.2million for the first show then 13.5m for the final result.
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Here are my Christmas Day predictions:
BBC One, top rated show: Doctor Who 11 million, runner up: Eastenders 9 million. ITV1, top rated show: Downton Abbey 9.5 million, runner up: Coronation St 7.5 million. I think it will be BBC One's day until 9pm when DA kicks in and will probably build up a bigger audience after 10pm as I can't see an Absolute Fabulous revival being a particularly big hit. |
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Yet I could be wrong about Ab Fab, as the BBC revived To The Manor Born after a 26 year absence and it attracted 10 million viewers, even if most people who saw it were disappointed.
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I think Harry Potter is in a horrible schedule. Really awful. Should be starting just before the end of Strictly to gain the audience after it. No one is going to watch a film half way through. Instead ITV are throwing it away to use it to claim the entire night. Which is just daft imo. A range of shows for the first Strictly, then the film for Merlin and the Strictly results would be a strong showing.
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I am a bit worried for Blue Peter, I was reading yesterday that its ratings have fallen from 1.4 million ten years ago to 0.4 million now( I know it attracted 5 million viewers in the pre digital era, but a comparison from 2001 is more meaningful). Can't work out why the fall is so steep and why the BBC seem to have their knives out for it as the presenters are as good as any from the past and the show has a new studio.
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I suppose this is part of their cost cutting and in a way it makes sense not duplicating programming. Also on CBBC BP could justify its low ratings and given a new lease of life.
Out of interest do we have the figures for children watching Blue Peter over the years - I suspect even now a significant proportion watching are nostalgic adults, and obviously it had it's huge figures in it's earlier days due to there being very little other choice. An average age of the viewer would be interesting too. |
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On Christmas Eve I doubt BBC staff will be whistling Tomorrow Belongs To Us. For once ITV1 have a very powerful alternative to the festive misery of Eastenders in the shape of DA, Corrie should run SCD close( although I think the SCD dance off will pull in about 8.5 million) and I still reckon DA will rule the 10-11 hour. Also Emmerdale should pull in about 6 million.
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Here are my Christmas Day predictions:
BBC One, top rated show: Doctor Who 11 million, runner up: Eastenders 9 million. ITV1, top rated show: Downton Abbey 9.5 million, runner up: Coronation St 7.5 million. I think it will be BBC One's day until 9pm when DA kicks in and will probably build up a bigger audience after 10pm as I can't see an Absolute Fabulous revival being a particularly big hit. Talking of which, Christmas is one time of year where TV's over reliance on celebrity hurts them. A decade ago a "celebrity special" really was that - and only churned out at Christmas or perhaps for the charity telethons - but now you see "The Cube Celebrity Special" or "All Star Family Fortunes Christmas Special" in the schedule and you know there is nothing special about them. Perhaps they should start doing non-celebrity specials at Christmas then. Actually that be a good idea for Strictly - surprise six worthy fans with a sob-story to tell and put them in the Christmas special rather than celebs who can't be arsed doing the full show. |
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Channel 5 Programme Averages inc. +1
Friday 16th December 09:15 The Wright Stuff: 380k (6.9%) 11:10 Live with Gabby: 185k (3.3%) 12:15 Law & Order: 169k (2.4%) 13:15 Home & Away: 254k (3.1%) 13:45 Neighbours: 800k (9.7%) 14:20 CSI: New York: 247k (3.1%) 15:20 Single Santa Seeks Mrs. Claus: 693k (6.4%) 17:00 5 News with Matt Barbet: 916k (6.4%) 17:30 Neighbours: 1.32m (7.8%) 18:00 Home & Away: 898k (4.6%) 18:30 OK! TV: 279k (1.3%) 18:55 Disney's 12 Days of Christmas: 227k (1.1%) 19:00 5 News with Emma Crosby: 168k (0.8%) 19:30 Fifth Gear: 297k (1.4%) 20:00 Ice Road Truckers: Deadliest Roads: 1.25m (5.6%) 21:00 Speed: 1.27m (6.6%) 23:25 Comedy Kings: Best of Just for Laughs: 331k (3.1%) |
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The reviews for Downton have been overwhelmingly positive so I definately agree it'll beat EastEnders (although whether it does in the 9pm hour will be the Boxing Day fight around here!). I've seen a couple of reviews who both say it is a show worthy of being labelled "special".
Talking of which, Christmas is one time of year where TV's over reliance on celebrity hurts them. A decade ago a "celebrity special" really was that - and only churned out at Christmas or perhaps for the charity telethons - but now you see "The Cube Celebrity Special" or "All Star Family Fortunes Christmas Special" in the schedule and you know there is nothing special about them. Perhaps they should start doing non-celebrity specials at Christmas then. Actually that be a good idea for Strictly - surprise six worthy fans with a sob-story to tell and put them in the Christmas special rather than celebs who can't be arsed doing the full show.
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Actually a childless BBC One will be interesting. I do remember in the mid eighties between 5 and 6 they ran re runs of Star Trek and Doctor Kildare, which went down well.
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On Christmas Eve I doubt BBC staff will be whistling Tomorrow Belongs To Us. For once ITV1 have a very powerful alternative to the festive misery of Eastenders in the shape of DA, Corrie should run SCD close( although I think the SCD dance off will pull in about 8.5 million) and I still reckon DA will rule the 10-11 hour. Also Emmerdale should pull in about 6 million.
Yes, elderly Middle England couples with no family or not invited round by their families, plus the jam making spinsters, will I'm sure be in raptures at settling down for some glossy period soap. It's something for those who are lonely this Christmas I guess, and that's nice of ITV to be thinking of them. But I can't imagine that the millions of people at festive family gatherings will find sitting in deathly silence for over 2 hours - whilst they try to figure out the dialogue over the background music - will find it that big a draw. Bite sized chunks rule the day on Christmas Day.
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It should indeed be interesting, as the removal of the kids shows from BBC1 should in theory send the overall channel share upwards, and increase its hegemony over ITV1 as the nation's most watched channel.
ITV have certainly thrown a curve ball into the mix this year, but I still find myself wondering exactly who will be sitting down for 2 hours of heavy going period drama on Christmas Night? Yes, elderly Middle England couples with no family or not invited round by their families, plus the jam making spinsters, will I'm sure be in raptures at settling down for some glossy period soap. It's something for those who are lonely this Christmas I guess, and that's nice of ITV to be thinking of them. But I can't imagine that the millions of people at festive family gatherings will find sitting in deathly silence for over 2 hours - whilst they try to figure out the dialogue over the background music - will find it that big a draw. Bite sized chunks rule the day on Christmas Day. ![]() Yet for all the BBC will bag the majority of the Christmas Top 10, I still predict ITV1 will have three shows in the Top 10: DA and the soaps. Actually the whole thing about BBC 1 owning Christmas day has been disproved in some years. In 1978 Morecambe and Wise won the day and in 1979 and 1980, for all the standard of their shows was in decline, they still attracted 16 million viewers to ITV. Then in 1987 ITV flattened BBC1 when they showed Hilda Ogden leaving Coronation St, an episode that attracted 27 million. |
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In addition to saying a few prayers for Downton in the next week, I bet ITV bosses (and Channel 5's!) are keeping an eye on this developing story...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16230934.stm ![]() Re Downton, there was an interview with Fincham in the Times Magazine today. Main premise of the piece was how fantastic Downton is, that people are getting used to this sort of quality on ITV now (really? ), and it's going to triumph in the festive ratings. So, no spoiling tactics or a seasonal gift to the nation even if suicidally scheduled - it's been put there to win - straight from the horse's mouth!No pressure then...
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Yet I could be wrong about Ab Fab, as the BBC revived To The Manor Born after a 26 year absence and it attracted 10 million viewers, even if most people who saw it were disappointed.
I also think Downton at 9 million is too high. Thats practically what it was getting against Spooks! Let alone EE on Christmas Day. Reviews might be positive, but I think 2 hours plus ads will turn viewers off. MASSIVE timeshift though. Which would make the Christmas Day position rather foolish frankly. At the end of Christmas day i just don't see 9 million people watching ads. They'll stick with EE, and maybe Downton will get boosted by people timeshifting after EE (adding to the overnight) but I think the BBC still have enough on for it to do not so much damage. EE is also building up to something, Downton is just sort of 'there'. Doctor Who will likely win the night. Not sure about 11 million, but possibly (I do think it does better on later, so it'll be put to the test! (am often still eating while Who is on, and am sure other families are the same). |
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In addition to saying a few prayers for Downton in the next week, I bet ITV bosses (and Channel 5's!) are keeping an eye on this developing story...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16230934.stm ![]() Re Downton, there was an interview with Fincham in the Times Magazine today. Main premise of the piece was how fantastic Downton is, that people are getting used to this sort of quality on ITV now (really? ), and it's going to triumph in the festive ratings. So, no spoiling tactics or a seasonal gift to the nation even if suicidally scheduled - it's been put there to win - straight from the horse's mouth!No pressure then... ![]() |
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Yet I could be wrong about Ab Fab, as the BBC revived To The Manor Born after a 26 year absence and it attracted 10 million viewers, even if most people who saw it were disappointed.
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Live from Gabby isnt doing too well, I assume its only doable, because it makes production savings, being on the same set at The Wright Stuff, still cant say Channel 5 hasnt given it a go.
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Ab Fab will struggle against Downton Abbey. I suspect I will have to go to another room to watch it whilst the parents watch DA.
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Friday 16th December - Soap Overnights
BBC One 13:45- Doctors: 1.74m (21.3%) 20:00- EastEnders: 7.54m (33.8%) ITV1 19:00- Emmerdale: 7.10m (33.9%) , +1: 105k (0.5%) 19:30- Coronation Street: 8.52m (39.0%) 20:30- Coronation Street: 8.08m (35.5%) , +1: 103k (0.5%) Channel 4 18:30- Hollyoaks: 949k (4.5%) Channel 5 13:45- Neighbours: 800k (9.7%) 17:30- Neighbours: 1.32m (7.8%) 18:00- Home and Away: 882k (4.5%) BBC Three 22:00- EastEnders: 617k (3%) E4 19:00- Hollyoaks: 372k (1.8%) Ratings include HD and are tape-checked where necessary Source: DS |
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, until Endeavour on the 2nd.

), and it's going to triumph in the festive ratings. So, no spoiling tactics or a seasonal gift to the nation even if suicidally scheduled - it's been put there to win - straight from the horse's mouth!