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Excluding +1: TXF: 12.05m, BGT: 10.53m, IAC: 9.66m, DOI: 8.33m.
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Each to their own of course but Sky's channels look pretty awful to me. Mostly reruns with the odd bit of new content mixed in. Even Sky Atlantic when it started couldn't even show stuff like 24 and Prison Break from the beginning, despite the tag line "where stories begin", rendering it pretty useless.
I realise that seemingly Sky Atlantic is supposed to be the posh upmarket one and Sky One the brash family-focused one but it's been terribly badly communicated. Even in the interview with the controller in Broadcast failed to explain exactly what the purpose of Sky Atlantic is, other than the vaguest of generalisations. And this is just going to confuse viewers, on another forum I'm on they mentioned that Sky Alantic are going to be showing the new Alan Partridge series and everyone's going "Sky Atlantic? How can it, that's the US import channel?", and so nobody will find it. Quote:
OK, fair point, maybe not ever but certainly not during the festive period when the BBC are supposedly meant to be at their strongest.
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Channel 5 just need to concentrate on 7pm-10pm for the next 366 days. Having 1098 hours to fill does seem to be a daunting task, especially with around 5% audience share - I don't envy the owners.
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Jools' Annual Hootenanny (BBC2) drew 2.82m (19.84%) including HD.
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Would be interesting to see MOTD's rating, as I can't ever recall it airing on NYE before.
So the only previous MOTD on New Year's Eve in the modern era was in 2005. In fact despite all twenty teams playing that day, it was shorter than this year's, 10.30-11.30, though they darted through them and there was only one pundit. Quote:
Yes, BBC has trailed tonight's Eastenders and they've trailed Sherlock and they've trailed Ab Fab AND they've done a New Year's Day trailer, trailing all 3 programmes in one go, complete with times.
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there is no way 6 million people will be watching CBB, it will be 1.8 million, 2 million at the most.
That's less than watched the finale of the normal version! No, no, it will do much better than that. Not as much as 6m granted, but somewhere in the 3-5m range. If it came in that low I think I would probably have to retire from ratings commentary altogether and find another hobby.
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I see that ITV1 have scheduled the new pre-recorded New Year edition of Millionaire in its old Tuesday 8pm slot. Perhaps ITV are testing the water to see if they should bring back the weekly series, seeing as how, however poorly it was doing, it was still doing better than most of the other programmes they stucj in that slot.
I bet you, however, Tuesday's celebrity special ends up rating more like 3.5m than 4.5m! They should definitely bring back the normal series in that slot considering how poorly other programmes such as High Stakes and Lion Country have rated there in the last 12 months. Quote:
Channel 5 will be rubbing their hands this week as CBB is back in its correct slot and I am going for 6 million for the launch night.
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...and so the underpredictions begin.
That's less than watched the finale of the normal version! No, no, it will do much better than that. Not as much as 6m granted, but somewhere in the 3-5m range. If it came in that low I think I would probably have to retire from ratings commentary altogether and find another hobby. ![]() Looking ahead, my interest this year will be in how Doctor Who does. The last series wasn't up to scratch, although the Christmas special was a lot better and I hope the 2012 shows show an improvement. |
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Originally Posted by Christmas Eve 2011 Overnights
EastEnders - 7.84m (30.1%)
Outnumbered - 7.02m (28.1%) Merlin - 6.38m (25.0%) Lapland - 5.90m (28.5%) The Cube - 4.99m (22.0%) [+1: 252k] Quote:
Christmas Eve 2011 Officials
1...EastEnders - 9.21m (32.7%) up 1.37m 2...Outnumbered - 8.47m (31.0%) up 1.45m 3...Merlin - 8.18m (28.9%) up 1.80m 4...Lapland - 6.89m (30.4%) up 0.99m 5...The Cube - 5.25m (22.3%) [+1: 273k] up 0.28m |
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Not as such.
They shown it part of the 'New Years Day On BBC1' Trailer but that's all. At the end of Friday's episode they didn't even mention tonight's which is very odd. It's such a big episode,End of a legend and has been praised very highly with TV critics.(a return to 80's Enders) There's also a special theme at the end and the opening credits will feature the Olympic Park... ![]() |
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...and so the underpredictions begin.
That's less than watched the finale of the normal version! No, no, it will do much better than that. Not as much as 6m granted, but somewhere in the 3-5m range. If it came in that low I think I would probably have to retire from ratings commentary altogether and find another hobby. ![]() Sorry but the Celeb version did well sure but then the ordinary lot collapsed ratings wise (instantly - people didn't even tune in to the first ep much!) So I think people were fine with a Celeb one, but not weeks and weeks of BB - which guess what, this is on not long after the last series! Its way to soon. More fatigue = low ratings. I also think theres nearly no noise for it - last series has the novelty of returning and a good few stories about who was in it. It'll probably start at around 1.8 million - BUT I do think it'll finish around the high 2 millions as it'll grow throughout its run. |
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I haven't noticed any on-air advertising of CBB on another other channels apart from C5 (unlike last time)
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...and so the underpredictions begin.
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3-5 million?
Sorry but the Celeb version did well sure but then the ordinary lot collapsed ratings wise (instantly - people didn't even tune in to the first ep much!) So I think people were fine with a Celeb one, but not weeks and weeks of BB - which guess what, this is on not long after the last series! Its way to soon. More fatigue = low ratings. I also think theres nearly no noise for it - last series has the novelty of returning and a good few stories about who was in it. It'll probably start at around 1.8 million - BUT I do think it'll finish around the high 2 millions as it'll grow throughout its run. |
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Well, I've seen a trailer for it. It's got Bianca berating Janine and a shot of David Wicks returning.
That's the trailer they have shown on the official website the past week or so too
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It'll probably start at around 1.8 million - BUT I do think it'll finish around the high 2 millions as it'll grow throughout its run.
There wasn't much buzz about it in August either in truth beyond the hype Channel 5 created - the TV mags etc just weren't interested. If anything there's been a little more interest in that regard this time after it proved itself last year and plenty of reports about who might be going in, admittedly nobody with quite the profile of Charlie Sheen however! Against 'The Restoration Man', low rating 'Wonderland', 'Eternal Law' (panned by critics) and the final part of 'Public Enemies', it should be fine for 3-5m.
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The big problem for Sky Atlantic is the fact they're showing British stuff on it, including that Ann Widdicome-hosted daytime quiz in the new year. This completely confuses the audience, the name and the trailers will lead most viewers to assume it's supposed to be 100% US imports.
I realise that seemingly Sky Atlantic is supposed to be the posh upmarket one and Sky One the brash family-focused one but it's been terribly badly communicated. Even in the interview with the controller in Broadcast failed to explain exactly what the purpose of Sky Atlantic is, other than the vaguest of generalisations. And this is just going to confuse viewers, on another forum I'm on they mentioned that Sky Alantic are going to be showing the new Alan Partridge series and everyone's going "Sky Atlantic? How can it, that's the US import channel?", and so nobody will find it. I think Five would be better off concentrating on post-10pm slots. There's no point commissioning a new drama and putting it on at 9pm because it would be crushed by the big guns on BBC1 and ITV. Five would be better off looking for shows like Celebrity Juice (only not as awful) to attract floating viewers when the big guns are giving up. I think 10pm would be fine for drama and comedy if Channel 5 wanted to, Channel 4 rarely puts drama at 9pm for the same reason. I still think US comedy would be good on Fridays given that Channel 4 have all but given up save for the odd show like New Girl. |
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Super timeshifts for the BBC One shows, all near too or above 1.00m.
I am guilty of this, but so is everyone - we all pretend Merlin is a wee show. Its not - its ****ing huge! Quote:
Merlin finishes with a final series average of 7.17 million and average timeshift of 1.39 million.
Thats a massive show, thats now grown to an 8 million audience!Whereas its 'average' of 'only' 7.17 million is against X FACTOR, I mean co'mon its a strong hitter. Won't be ending next year if the Beeb can help it. No reason to stick to the silly '5 year plan'. Get rid of Morgana and you have a show that can become more annual baddies and less long term stories. |
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Against 'The Restoration Man', low rating 'Wonderland', 'Eternal Law' (panned by critics) and the final part of 'Public Enemies', it should be fine for 3-5m.
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Merlin isn't ending next year.
I am guilty of this, but so is everyone - we all pretend Merlin is a wee show. Its not - its ****ing huge! Thats a massive show, thats now grown to an 8 million audience! Whereas its 'average' of 'only' 7.17 million is against X FACTOR, I mean co'mon its a strong hitter. Won't be ending next year if the Beeb can help it. No reason to stick to the silly '5 year plan'. Get rid of Morgana and you have a show that can become more annual baddies and less long term stories. |
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Excellent rating last night for New Year Live. 10.9m is much higher than I was expecting. Pirates put in a solid performance. ITV1 fell apart as expected. HP should do OK for them tonight but BBC will win with the EE/Sherlock combo.
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People need to stop underestimating CBB launch ratings.
The only reason BB launch was low rated is because it followed from CBB, no promotion etc... CBB7 launched with 6.3m and CBB8 just a few months ago, launched with 5.1m on Channel 5 in the overnights, didn't it? |
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Won't be ending next year if the Beeb can help it. No reason to stick to the silly '5 year plan'. Get rid of Morgana and you have a show that can become more annual baddies and less long term stories.
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I agree it will benefit from weak competition, but im not willing to go as high as 3 million, yet alone anything close to 5.
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there is no way 6 million people will be watching CBB, it will be 1.8 million, 2 million at the most.
I predict around 4.7m, around 400k down on CBB8 launch. |
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having had a look at the ratings for the last CBB, maybe I do need to make another prediction
I predict 3.0 - 3.5 or 3.25 if you want an exact figure.no one else thinks, that the audience will just think the novelty has worn off, and that this years CBB will be a waste of time? |
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Quick question...
How much was Strictly down in 2011? And how much was BGT down in 2011? Interesting that for Robbie, one is a flop and one is "hit of the year" as I don't think there's really much difference. ![]() BGT down 5%, SCD down 2%. Of course BGT had already dropped significantly the previous year, and dropped again in 2011. I noted in my post that SCD had fallen, but relative to TXF it closed the gap, beat it a few times, and got the media behind it proclaiming it as "the hit show". [EDITED to avoid upsetting Roscoe] Quote:
For a BBC fanboy, you don't seem to watch much BBC.
Yes, BBC has trailed tonight's Eastenders and they've trailed Sherlock and they've trailed Ab Fab AND they've done a New Year's Day trailer, trailing all 3 programmes in one go, complete with times. This morning, before the MOTD repeat, they showed the New Year's Day trailer followed immediately by the Sherlock trailer (and preceeded by the jazzy trailer they've produced for next Saturday's Casualty). I'm hoping the "Christmas jumper" NYD trail means we keep the BBC1 festive idents till bedtime tonight - for once! Though I won't hold my breath... |
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People need to stop underestimating CBB launch ratings.
The only reason BB launch was low rated is because it followed from CBB, no promotion etc... CBB7 launched with 6.3m and CBB8 just a few months ago, launched with 5.1m on Channel 5 in the overnights, didn't it? It's all good. Underpredictions are fine with me actually.
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I predict 3.0 - 3.5 or 3.25 if you want an exact figure.