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maybe the problem is your "Corrieland" location, I mean people seem to love Dot, and there is no question of EE not being part of British culture.
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Unless Glenn has interviewed 100s of people in his local town, I don't know how he has come to this conclusion that nobody cares about EE in the North West. In the office I work, besides TXF and SCD nobody seems to watch anything mainstream, the only shows people talk about are either trendy programmes (Inbetweeners etc) or freak show stuff (The world's fattest man etc)
It seems to be he is just trying to slot in his usual Corrie bashing into a night when Corrie isn't even on. Stuff about the viewers all being pensioners will no doubt follow. It seems any praising of EE has to be matched by criticism of CS (and vica versa) even when CS isn't even relevant to the discussion. |
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Cheryl Cole leads tribute to Pat
your right that was a very strong episode. but that is not 100% true the episode still contained other storylines, and characters, some of which are more liked than others. That kept the focus on Pat and the Jacksons but it had other moments. Lauren and Mandy being two such examples. ![]() I know they did but not back and fourth after a few minutes. Most of the scene's were on Branning/Butcher/Wicks family most of the time and we didn't get Alfie being an idiot or Humour from Kim ect. Pretty much most of the 70mins were related to the end of pat |
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Unless Glenn has interviewed 100s of people in his local town, I don't know how he has come to this conclusion that nobody cares about EE in the North West.
It seems to be he is just trying to slot in his usual Corrie bashing into a night when Corrie isn't even on. Stuff about the viewers all being pensioners will no doubt follow. It seems any praising of EE has to be matched by criticism of CS (and vica versa) even when CS isn't even relevant to the discussion. Actually the times I go to Yorkshire, the biggest soap there is Emmerdale. Now that's not surprising. |
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Andy23 is right, there is no need to diss Corrie tonight, EE deserves nothing but praise, and too diss Corrie or even Cheryl Cole off the back of it is wrong.
Really kinda hoping David sticks around, nice to see Bianca spend some time with him, even if you know he has to go back to Holby at some point. |
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You didn't read my post, I said EE is popular here, but Coronation St has a bigger following, same as I imagine down South EE is a bigger show, but Coronation St has its fans. Both shows have roughly similar audiences, but CS is the bigger show here. This isn't CS bashing in the least.
Actually the times I go to Yorkshire, the biggest soap there is Emmerdale. Now that's not surprising. |
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That's a rather simplistic view though. I'm in the north west and I'd say EastEnders is quite popular and probably more popular than Corrie among the younger audience, but you're perhaps right that the older viewers would opt for Corrie - and they do make up the bulk of the television audience.
As I pointed out in an earlier post, CS biggest following is in what used to be the Granada, Border and Yorkshire regions and also it's a big deal in Northern Ireland. This isn't knocking the show at all- it's just I never warmed to it, maybe because my family put it on instead of Blake#s 7.
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EE is one of the BBC's evergreens, always doing well for them, and seems to have better demos than the two big ITV soaps. Yet the characters and actors have never been held in the same affection as the classic Coronation St cast. I would much rather have a pint with Johnny Briggs than Leslie Grantham.
I am not sure if I would like to meet a soap actor in real-life.I hope EE rated well against HP, but sub 10m please so I can score some points in the RPG.
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In the past EE has some very memorable moments, but maybe because I live in Corrieland( NW England) it doesn't have the same devoted following here. However, it does seem to trend younger in the North than Coronation St, but on balance EE is the second soap here.
It's a distant third, behind Emmerdale which seems to have just as devoted a following as Corrie. Massive disappointment from BBC1 tonight. As miserable an episode of Eastenders as I have ever seen, padded out to 70 tortuous minutes. An utterly incomprehensible and turgid episode of Sherlock, much too clever for it's own good, which makes me wonder what all the fuss was about. Then an almost laugh free episode of AbFab which wasn't a patch on the Christmas Day one. I might have to revise down even my lowish ratings expectations. It was as disappointing a trio of shows from BBC1 as I have seen in a long time. I hope ITV1 has taken them to the cleaners. |
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As the second is a convicted murderer with a penchant for web-cams - you are right to choose the former
I am not sure if I would like to meet a soap actor in real-life.Soap actors will be like anyone else, some will be fine, some will be horrible, but I do feel sorry for them when they are sacked from a soap as they're often typecast. I know that Len Adamson( Len Fairclough) ended up bankrupt and the actor who played Ernest Bishop never worked in television again. |
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Should be a huge night for the Beeb. Great stuff.
11m+ for EastEnders and around 9m for Sherlock. (I'm quite looking forward to that YouTube vid Robbie! )
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I am not sure if I would like to meet a soap actor in real-life.
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Really what is the point in a celebrity if you take them out the bubble you have placed them in and let them disappoint you. |
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Massive disappointment from BBC1 tonight. As miserable an episode of Eastenders as I have ever seen, padded out to 70 tortuous minutes. An utterly incomprehensible and turgid episode of Sherlock, much too clever for it's own good, which makes me wonder what all the fuss was about. Then an almost laugh free episode of AbFab which wasn't a patch on the Christmas Day one. I might have to revise down even my lowish ratings expectations. It was as disappointing a trio of shows from BBC1 as I have seen in a long time. I hope ITV1 has taken them to the cleaners. ![]()
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Massive disappointment from BBC1 tonight. As miserable an episode of Eastenders as I have ever seen, padded out to 70 tortuous minutes. An utterly incomprehensible and turgid episode of Sherlock, much too clever for it's own good, which makes me wonder what all the fuss was about. Then an almost laugh free episode of AbFab which wasn't a patch on the Christmas Day one.
I might have to revise down even my lowish ratings expectations. It was as disappointing a trio of shows from BBC1 as I have seen in a long time. Quote:
I hope ITV1 has taken them to the cleaners.
We all believe you....... ![]() You have been more negative about the Beeb this Christmas than GeorgeS has been for all of last year. |
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I hope ITV1 has taken them to the cleaners.
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I'm Lancashire born and bred and still live here. I can assure you EE does not play second fiddle to Corrie.
It's a distant third, behind Emmerdale which seems to have just as devoted a following as Corrie. Massive disappointment from BBC1 tonight. As miserable an episode of Eastenders as I have ever seen, padded out to 70 tortuous minutes. An utterly incomprehensible and turgid episode of Sherlock, much too clever for it's own good, which makes me wonder what all the fuss was about. Then an almost laugh free episode of AbFab which wasn't a patch on the Christmas Day one. I might have to revise down even my lowish ratings expectations. It was as disappointing a trio of shows from BBC1 as I have seen in a long time. I hope ITV1 has taken them to the cleaners. As for Ab Fab, not impressed with the Christmas Day episode, and that Baron character with an awful mockney accent was just an embarassment. If EE gets 11 million, all well and good. |
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Just adding to Robbie's point, I can believe what he says about Corrie's popularity in Lancashire as its the soap's homeland. Anyone older on here know if Crossroads beat CS in the ATV region?
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Andy23 is right, there is no need to diss Corrie tonight, EE deserves nothing but praise, and too diss Corrie or even Cheryl Cole off the back of it is wrong.
Really kinda hoping David sticks around, nice to see Bianca spend some time with him, even if you know he has to go back to Holby at some point. |
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David is around untill the Funeral on Friday 13th Jan at least (thats a 40min special)
On the general point that the North likes Corrie more, yeah I can see that being true, but lets not turn it into a big thing. |
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I hope we see something good between him and Bianca.
On the general point that the North likes Corrie more, yeah I can see that being true, but lets not turn it into a big thing.
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If EE gets 11 million out of its regular slot, then this is a massive achievement.
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GlennA- Coronation Street isn't as old-skewing as you might think. About 30% of its audience is aged 65+, obviously that's higher than EastEnders which is quite a young skewing programme. But 30% in the 65+ demo in general BBC1/ITV1 terms is not that high. Programmes which are proper old-skewing shows are things like Countryfile, Antiques Roadshow, crime dramas like Midsomer Murders where almost 50% of the audience is aged 65+!
Here's some soap demo skews from 1988, including Neighbours and Brookside, which I'm sure you'll be interested in . Go on this page: http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/htt...120/soaps.html , click on a blue date and scroll down to near the bottom for those old demos.
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GlennA- Coronation Street isn't as old-skewing as you might think. About 30% of its audience is aged 65+, obviously that's higher than EastEnders which is quite a young skewing programme. But 30% in the 65+ demo in general BBC1/ITV1 terms is not that high. Programmes which are old-skewing are things like Countryfile, Antiques Roadshow, some crime dramas where almost 50% of the audience is aged 65+!
Here's some soap demo skews from 1988, including Neighbours and Brookside, which I'm sure you'll be interested in. Scroll down this page:http://web.archive.org/web/201005290...120/soaps.html |
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I do know CS trends quite well in the middle aged age group here, and thanks for this link. Happy New year!
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The south is bigger than the North
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If EE gets 11 million out of its regular slot, then this is a massive achievement.
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