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Old 16-12-2011, 12:39
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I think you underestimate the viewers!

Having said that, I wouldn't vote for Chelsee - unless the other 2 finalists were completely dire or fell over - because I don't think she's been as committed or worked as hard as Harry (or Jason come to that)

Harry for me is the better dancer, and I also think his attitude throughout has been exemplary.

Chelsee also has the advantage of being the woman in the partnership and being led by Pasha - I know she can't help that but it's still a fact.

Harry and Jason have to lead the dances, physically perform and control the lifts - it;'s much more difficult for the male celebs.

Whatever the result, it'll be a great final
Harry and Jason had no other work commitments and could thus concentrate only on SCD - whereas Chelsee managed to combine filming Waterloo Road with Strictly - yet you somehow appear to think there's something lacking in her commitment and work ethic?

As for the woman in the partnership having an easier ride - although Kristina has packed her routines for Jason full of some very advanced choreography - I do recall a number of occasions when all Harry had to do was stand sway whilst Aliona danced around him. Not his fault of course, but fact nevertheless.

Very confused.
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Old 16-12-2011, 12:40
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So you're voting for them because of the Aliona factor then?! I knew when she wore that outfit for the charleston (and let's face it it was hardly a typical charleston outfit) that she was going directly for the straight male vote.

Nice to see her efforts weren't wasted.

(With that and the underwear photoshoot for the gay mag., they really have all their bases covered).
Ive also enjoyed harry and alionas QS, Jive, WV, Charleton and AT and cant wait for the AS

WIth Chelsee Ive only enjoyed her Waltz, QS and AT
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Old 16-12-2011, 12:44
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Im not a mcfly fan, Im not gay, and Im not a teenage girl (being I am a male), and Im still voting for Harry and Aliona
I'm also not a McFly fan.....Too young for me lol

I'm a 41 yr old straight female who will be phone voting for Harry and Aliona because I simply believe they are the best

So you're voting for them because of the Aliona factor then?! I knew when she wore that outfit for the charleston (and let's face it it was hardly a typical charleston outfit) that she was going directly for the straight male vote.

Nice to see her efforts weren't wasted.

(With that and the underwear photoshoot for the gay mag., they really have all their bases covered).
They are getting my vote because both of them have danced superbly. Nothing at all to do with being Gay, underwear photos....etc.

It is possible they are liked for their dancing you know...
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Old 16-12-2011, 12:47
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Harry and Jason had no other work commitments and could thus concentrate only on SCD - whereas Chelsee managed to combine filming Waterloo Road with Strictly - yet you somehow appear to think there's something lacking in her commitment and work ethic?

As for the woman in the partnership having an easier ride - although Kristina has packed her routines for Jason full of some very advanced choreography - I do recall a number of occasions when all Harry had to do was stand sway whilst Aliona danced around him. Not his fault of course, but fact nevertheless.

Very confused.
I even noticed some of that in the clips of the showdances they showed on ITT, while Jason and Chelsee were moving the whole time there was a section where Harry was static while Aliona danced around him. Seems a shame.
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Old 16-12-2011, 13:22
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Harry is a technician and those dances that Aliona picked for their final will showcase Harry at his best (i.e. mimimal hip movements in latin, in fact, no cha-cha-salsa-samba type dance for Harry).

So I believe he'll be the top scorer in the final.

Chelsee will continue to dance very well and naturally and will always be my winner. I will vote for her, but I fear she will not top the leaderboard nor capture the majority viewers votes.
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Old 16-12-2011, 13:40
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Not forgetting if you see someone as a brother it is very hard to get the passion as it feels somewhat incestuous and therefore totally wrong. Yet you can still be affectionate and happy together.
That's the one thing I can't understand about Chelsee - she's an actress, yet on the dancefloor she doesn't seem to be able to act romance or passion at all. It doesn't have to be real, as an actress it's her job to make something that isn't real believeable. I'm sure I would have enjoyed some of her dances more if she actually used the acting skills I'm sure she has...
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Old 16-12-2011, 13:40
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I don't see why people should necessarily vote for the best dancer in the final. I liked Matt and Alesha both as dancers, and thought he out-danced her in the final, but voted for her to win, because I liked her more as a dancer and thought she'd produced a better standard of dancing over the series. The same with Kara and Matt last year (except I didn't really like him as a dancer) after she crocked herself in the showdance.
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Old 16-12-2011, 13:44
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That's the one thing I can't understand about Chelsee - she's an actress, yet on the dancefloor she doesn't seem to be able to act romance or passion at all. It doesn't have to be real, as an actress it's her job to make something that isn't real believeable. I'm sure I would have enjoyed some of her dances more if she actually used the acting skills I'm sure she has...
That's subjective, though. I don't see much passion or personality in Harry's dances, but I will acknowledge that many do. Len didn't but Craig did for his AT. Horses for courses.

For me, Chelsee has been one of the few that has conveyed emotion in the majority her dances.
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Old 16-12-2011, 13:45
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That's the one thing I can't understand about Chelsee - she's an actress, yet on the dancefloor she doesn't seem to be able to act romance or passion at all. It doesn't have to be real, as an actress it's her job to make something that isn't real believeable. I'm sure I would have enjoyed some of her dances more if she actually used the acting skills I'm sure she has...
Looking forward to their Rumba to see how far she has come then
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Old 16-12-2011, 14:22
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I think that we all thought Chelsee would be useless at the very start and she didnt come across too well in the intro show, but my goodness she has shocked I would say most of us even the Judges

Harry will win, but think Chelsee is the better dancer, but Harry will be a better person to "fly the Flag" for SCD as opposed to Chelsee am afraid
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Old 16-12-2011, 14:31
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With Harry in recent weeks, I reckon if I didn't know who he was I wouldn't be able to tell who the celeb was between him & Aliona. In fact when they did the Swingathon my father couldn't spot him because he mistook him for one of the pros until he saw his face.

Chelsee has been very good too, but I wouldn't say she looks like a Pro yet. Definitely a brilliant female dancer though. The two of them deserve to be the final 2, but Harry's the winner for me.
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Old 16-12-2011, 14:34
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Harry and Jason had no other work commitments and could thus concentrate only on SCD - whereas Chelsee managed to combine filming Waterloo Road with Strictly - yet you somehow appear to think there's something lacking in her commitment and work ethic?

As for the woman in the partnership having an easier ride - although Kristina has packed her routines for Jason full of some very advanced choreography - I do recall a number of occasions when all Harry had to do was stand sway whilst Aliona danced around him. Not his fault of course, but fact nevertheless.

Very confused.
That's not the kind of committment I'm referring to - the hours that Chelsee was available to rehearse were out of her control. I'm talking about committment while she was in the training room.

There may have been occasions where Harry stood still during a routine, but it's clear that once he starts to move, he's dynamite! Even Craig has been impressed!

However as I said before, if I vote in the final, it'll be for the couple I consider to have danced the best and entertained me the most. - regardless of how I feel at this moment.
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Old 16-12-2011, 14:43
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That's not the kind of committment I'm referring to - the hours that Chelsee was available to rehearse were out of her control. I'm talking about committment while she was in the training room.

There may have been occasions where Harry stood still during a routine, but it's clear that once he starts to move, he's dynamite! Even Craig has been impressed!

However as I said before, if I vote in the final, it'll be for the couple I consider to have danced the best and entertained me the most. - regardless of how I feel at this moment.
True - but he's been even more impressed with Chelsee to whom he gave a perfect 10 last week.

Considering the standard Chelsee has reached on limited training, the speed with which she's picked up some very complicated choreography and her natural grace (Craig is blown away by her 'armography') I think she is by far the better dancer. Furthermore I have never seen her standing still whilst Pasha dances around her; on the contrary he has such faith in her ability that she has performed more solo dancing than any other contestant.

I think the correct 3 reached the final; the eventual champion will be decided on the public vote and whoever emerges the winner will deserve the accolade.

I happen to hope that is Chelsee.
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Old 16-12-2011, 14:47
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True - but he's been even more impressed with Chelsee to whom he gave a perfect 10 last week.

Considering the standard Chelsee has reached on limited training, the speed with which she's picked up some very complicated choreography and her natural grace (Craig is blown away by her 'armography') I think she is by far the better dancer. Furthermore I have never seen her standing still whilst Pasha dances around her; on the contrary he has such faith in her ability that she has performed more solo dancing than any other contestant.

I think the correct 3 reached the final; the eventual champion will be decided on the public vote and whoever emerges the winner will deserve the accolade.

I happen to hope that is Chelsee.
I agree with you and I really hope Chelsee wins. I think Harry will though because alot of people I talk too want him to win although on here it appears to be the opposite.
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Old 16-12-2011, 14:47
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I think that we all thought Chelsee would be useless at the very start and she didnt come across too well in the intro show, but my goodness she has shocked I would say most of us even the Judges

Harry will win, but think Chelsee is the better dancer, but Harry will be a better person to "fly the Flag" for SCD as opposed to Chelsee am afraid
I know what you're getting at and sadly have to agree with you. Aww, poor Chelsee and Pash
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Old 16-12-2011, 14:48
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So if work ethic is enough to win the glitterball anyone who has natural talent or ability should just walk away from the competition as they wont need to practice enough to satisfy you.
You forgot that she hasnt "embraced the experience" either (whatever that means).
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Old 16-12-2011, 14:49
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I don't think that's a foregone conclusion! Anybody can have a bad night.
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Old 16-12-2011, 14:49
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True - but he's been even more impressed with Chelsee to whom he gave a perfect 10 last week.

Considering the standard Chelsee has reached on limited training, the speed with which she's picked up some very complicated choreography and her natural grace (Craig is blown away by her 'armography') I think she is by far the better dancer. Furthermore I have never seen her standing still whilst Pasha dances around her; on the contrary he has such faith in her ability that she has performed more solo dancing than any other contestant.

I think the correct 3 reached the final; the eventual champion will be decided on the public vote and whoever emerges the winner will deserve the accolade.

I happen to hope that is Chelsee.
Its different when its a man though, some dances do require them to sometimes be quite still at times. Its more about directing the woman. I can't really think of the same instances for a woman.

Harry and Chelsee are hard to compare because the requirements for each are different. Some claim its harder for a man because he has to lead (which Harry does amazingly well), but of course there's still a lot of control involved for the women.
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Old 16-12-2011, 14:57
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I believe Chelsee has as much chance of winning as Harry does....I also believe Chelsee would do just a good a job of flying the strictly flag as Harry would.

If I remember rightly Kara wasnt favourite to win and she made mistakes in her final dances and still won so, I believe anything can happen.
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Old 16-12-2011, 15:04
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Looking forward to their Rumba to see how far she has come then
I think she's come a long way. Her AS last Saturday had much of the emotion of a typical rumba so all she has to do is the same again and she should have enough passion to make the judges (and voters) happy.
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Old 16-12-2011, 15:14
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Do you have to be so rude? She dosent have to say anything her dancing speaks for her!
I've given up quoting this poster - he makes so many bigotted comments I'd be forever repeating his remarks.
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Old 16-12-2011, 15:19
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Chelsee is the best dancer but being shorter and 'mis-shaped' - sorry but it's my opinion, she does not look as elegant and graceful as she could.
I want her to win because she is the one who appears to be the most humble and would be shocked if she did.
Jason has had a reality check and may not expect to win anymore, but he seems to think he is the hardest working and deserves it.

Harry appears nice but I don't like Aliona and I'm sure she expects to win - hoping to see her get second again!
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Old 16-12-2011, 15:23
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I've given up quoting this poster - he makes so many bigotted comments I'd be forever repeating his remarks.
The ignore button is your friend Just a nuisance when people quote such vile characters...... And breathe!
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Old 16-12-2011, 15:36
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That's the one thing I can't understand about Chelsee - she's an actress, yet on the dancefloor she doesn't seem to be able to act romance or passion at all. It doesn't have to be real, as an actress it's her job to make something that isn't real believeable. I'm sure I would have enjoyed some of her dances more if she actually used the acting skills I'm sure she has...
I think because conveying an emotion through dance is not the same as acting, especially TV acting which is Chelsee's main experience, which is much more to do with the voice and the eyes. I don't think there's any reason to suppose an actor would be better at dancing than someone else, just as I wouldn't expect any of the pros to be necessarily good at acting. They say a lot about Jason's performance because he's an actor, but I find - apologies to Jason fans - his facial expressions distracting and I think I'd like his dancing much more if he toned them down a little. It's all personal taste.

Chelsee is the one for me who, at her best, actually seems to be dancing to the music. Jason and Harry, for me, excellent as they are, are always doing what they've been taught to do in order to win a competition, but they've yet to dance in a way that seems to come from their gut. It's hard to put into words, and I know others would disagree. One is a singer and one is a musician but, imo, their dancing is less musical than Chelsee's.
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Old 16-12-2011, 15:41
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She doesn’t have to say anything, her dancing speaks for her!
I agree with this, sort of. Her trademark has been to be "lost for words" and it has become endearing. And of course she is a good dancer, though if one more person comments on her exquisite arms I will fall asleep.

Two more reasons why I think Chelsee will win:
1, Her partner is going to attract a shedload of votes
2, I feel her waterworks will come on after the rumba (whereas Harry is a bit of a cold fish)
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