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Old 16-10-2004, 12:24
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So as not to spoil the U2 thread and their appreciation of the band, I thought I'd start a new one for people who think they're really overated... I just find them to be a pop band... They're not the modern day Beatles... Hell, they can't even match up to REM.
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Old 16-10-2004, 13:18
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I can confirm that U2 are indeed overrated.
But as there aren't any good pop/rock bands in the Northern hemisphere
people tend to think they are god's gift.
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Old 16-10-2004, 13:41
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I have to agree. I think they are talented, and I like some of their music. But yes, somewhat over-rated in many circles, imho.
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Old 16-10-2004, 14:18
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I think you need to take their career as a whole when judging how good they are. With such a long career, of course not everything is going to be good but they have written plenty of excellent songs. As well as the 2 obviously brilliant earlier albums, how many bands could release two greatest hits albums, one for the 80's and one for the 90's, as good as U2's?

I'm not their greatest fan but I have alot of respect for them.....and 'One' is still one of my favourite songs of all time.....
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Old 16-10-2004, 14:19
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Terribly overrated. Bono is a creep. REM are overrated as well.
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Old 16-10-2004, 17:03
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U2... overated...definitely!
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Old 16-10-2004, 21:59
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why is it ok to say u2 are overated and not get abuse!!but if you say will young is overated the abuse is out of hand.
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Old 16-10-2004, 22:25
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I can put REM and Radiohead above U2 easily.How are U2 overated,they only put an lp out every 4 years so we hardly hear too much about them.When a band such as U2 and say Depeche Mode put out an lp it should be appreciated because it could be their last
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Old 16-10-2004, 23:41
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They are one of the select few old style rock acts left in the business. My type of music personally. Not sure there are too many bands around these days that could take their place.
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Old 16-10-2004, 23:45
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i don't know how overrated they are really. similarly REM - they have both been putting out consistently good music for over 20 years. in that respect as much as anything else, i don't think many come close. and U2 especially have been a great live act over that time, the highlight being the Zoo TV shows, which were just amazing.

if you think back to the late 80s, U2 and simple minds were almost always mentioned in the same breath, but after *once upon a time* simple minds lost it completely. perhaps *sons and fascination* was their *achtung baby*, but less well timed. U2 on the other hand brought out *achtung baby* at exactly the right time, and having already had the huge success of *the joshua tree*, to then go in such a different direction, and produce possibly their finest album, and accompany it with some of the best live shows ever, was really quite something.

sure, there are other great bands around - the last couple of years or so has been a great time for music, but time will tell how many of them are still cranking out great albums in 20 years time.

and i don't care what anyone says - bono has an amazing voice.

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Old 17-10-2004, 13:26
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Originally Posted by iain
i don't know how overrated they are really. similarly REM - they have both been putting out consistently good music for over 20 years.
They've got about 5 good songs between them imo.


in that respect as much as anything else, i don't think many come close. and U2 especially have been a great live act over that time, the highlight being the Zoo TV shows, which were just amazing.
This is where I begin to despise Bono though. It was the most ridiculous, over the top, self indulgent, pretentious mess I've ever seen... Just play your ****ing songs, and stop dressing up like Satan.
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Old 17-10-2004, 13:27
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For a band to last as long as they have and still be relevant, tour and not have to resort to a greatest hits type show, sell as many records and tickets and still get critical acclaim is very rare indeed.

Wait untill you hear "City of Blinding Lights" - it could easily be U2'S biggest ever track.
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Old 17-10-2004, 13:28
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Originally Posted by Sara & Emma




This is where I begin to despise Bono though. It was the most ridiculous, over the top, self indulgent, pretentious mess I've ever seen... Just play your ****ing songs, and stop dressing up like Satan.
Have you heard of irony then? Didn't you think the Bee Gee's were better songwriters than the Beatles?
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Old 17-10-2004, 14:00
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Have you heard of irony then? Didn't you think the Bee Gee's were better songwriters than the Beatles?
ha ha ha yes she did,and was nasty over me saying will young was over rated.
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Old 17-10-2004, 14:04
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Originally Posted by Sara & Emma
They've got about 5 good songs between them imo.......
LOL. I'm intrigued to know what you actually consider to be good music then?
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Old 17-10-2004, 14:44
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Originally Posted by Smudged
LOL. I'm intrigued to know what you actually consider to be good music then?
she likes will young.
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Old 17-10-2004, 16:09
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Originally Posted by Sara & Emma
They've got about 5 good songs between them imo.
perhaps - but the general consensus is that between them they have way more than 5 good songs. and to have been putting out such a consistantly strong body of work for so many years is, i think, testament to both bands talents, and as such i think they do stand above most other bands.

This is where I begin to despise Bono though. It was the most ridiculous, over the top, self indulgent, pretentious mess I've ever seen... Just play your ****ing songs, and stop dressing up like Satan.
weren't they getting a bit pretentious around *the joshua tree*, and then they did a pretty amazing job of reinventing themselves around *achtung baby*. i think during the former they were perhaps guilty of taking themselves too seriously, but since the later they certainly weren't. it was all just a bit entertaining irony. (although i think they overdid it on the *pop* tour)

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Old 17-10-2004, 19:06
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Originally Posted by Kevin Harrison
Have you heard of irony then?
Yes, but what's that got to do with me finding the show a pretentious, self indulgent load of shit?

Didn't you think the Bee Gee's were better songwriters than the Beatles?
Have you heard of ignorance then?

I certainly never said it. And I don't believe Sara did either. Infact...

Originally Posted by Sara & Emma
I think Sgt. Pepper is really overrated.

But "Too Much Heaven" is one of my favourite songs ever

Sara.
Now if Sara saying she thinks Sgt. Pepper is really overrated, and then mentions that one song by the Bee Gees is one of her favourite songs, how does that end up in your head as her saying the Bee Gees are better writers?


Reading through that thread...


Originally Posted by SOS Mikey
Quote from Bee Gees biographer on their official site

"Only last week, my wife and I were having dinner with Brian Wilson. When we asked him to choose dinner music, he asked for the Bee Gees. While one of their CDs played, I asked him where he ranked the group in his personal top ten. Very softly but definitively, he said "Number One." We said, "Ahead of the Beatles?" He said, "Yes." We said, "Ahead of the Beach Boys?" Again, he said, "Yes."
Ah, so it wasn't Sara, or me who said that the Bee Gees were better... It was only the musical genius that is Brian Wilson. Ha! Take it up with him.
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Old 17-10-2004, 19:13
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Originally Posted by Smudged
LOL. I'm intrigued to know what you actually consider to be good music then?
I like The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, The Beach Boys, Bob Dylan, Richard Thompson, Fleetwood Mac, Otis Redding, Neil Young, Aimee Mann, Sarah McLachlan and Jimi Hendrix, amongst others.

And I spent most of my teenage years, off my face, listening to The Wall. Which was also self indulgent and pretentious, but done by people who were still interesting, and were fine players.

If it makes people feel better though, I quite liked Johnny Cash singing "One"
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Old 17-10-2004, 19:20
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ha ha ha yes she did

ha ha ha no she didn't


and was nasty over me saying will young was over rated.
ha ha ha good.
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Old 17-10-2004, 22:14
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Over Rated? They are now. Thier latest single is shite
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Old 17-10-2004, 22:17
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Originally Posted by Sara & Emma
ha ha ha no she didn't




ha ha ha good.
ha ha you have bad tast in music
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Old 17-10-2004, 22:22
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I just can't understand why on Vertigo he says (in spanish obviously)
1, 2, 3, 14....
i mean wtf?!

and as much as it pains me to back up Sara & Emma, their music taste isn't actually that bad...

Well except Will Young!
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Old 17-10-2004, 22:34
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Originally Posted by Peej Kerton
I just can't understand why on Vertigo he says (in spanish obviously)
1, 2, 3, 14....
i mean wtf?!

and as much as it pains me to back up Sara & Emma, their music taste isn't actually that bad...

Well except Will Young!
ha ha nice one
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Old 17-10-2004, 22:43
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Originally Posted by Sara & Emma
I like The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, The Beach Boys, Bob Dylan, Richard Thompson, Fleetwood Mac, Otis Redding, Neil Young, Aimee Mann, Sarah McLachlan and Jimi Hendrix, amongst others......
Hmmm....I think that explains it then.......
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