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10 Reasons Why an American Version of Doctor Who Would Be a Brilliant Idea
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Lazlo Wolf
16-12-2011
Oh yes, I can positivise anything to do with the best TV program ever. Not a hoax! Not a trolling attempt! Think you don’t want WhoSA as well as WhoK? Prepare to change your mind.[LIST=1][*]There would be a ton of it – Twenty-odd new episodes of Doctor Who per year? How on Earth could that be a bad thing? Even if it’s films, you know that the first one will be called Doctor Who: Something of the Somethings, ready for a sequel. Heck, film three at the same time.

[*]It wouldn’t affect WhoK - Remember how nobody talks about the original ‘The Office’ now the American version is so popular? Or how Fawlty Towers was ruined by the poor American version ‘Amanda’s’? No? That’s because those things did not happen.

On the film side of things, do you really want a whole year’s production time and budget to go into two hours of Who? Let America take the strain on that, and BBC Wales can produce a whole new series at the same time.

[*]It might be great – You know your favourite American writers of TV SciFi? Fiver says they are massive Doctor Who fans and thought they’d never get to write for it due to the British focus. They’ll be battering down the studio’s door. Same with films.

[*]It might be terrible – Come on, admit it, you like a bit of wonky not-quite-Who as much as I do. Peter Cushing on a drizzly Sunday? Perfect. Studio interference could leave it like blue cheese. You know it doesn’t taste nice, but you can’t keep away.

[*]It would be different – Okay, this one only really works if, like me, you like the fact that Doctor Who almost completely changes every five years or so. But if that is that case, having two different versions running at the same time is exponentially enjoyable.

[*]Think of the crossovers – Companions! Enemies! Doctors! (On anniversaries and the like.) This ties in to my firm belief that all countries should have their own Doctor. A hundred different timelines cross-fertilising!

[*]Think of the merchandising – Yes, there’s a lot now, but imagine it cranked up to Hollywood levels. Proper Lego! Halfway-decent videogames! Cuddly every-damn-thing! Probably not Happy Meals, but a fellow can dream.

[*]It would get American kids interested – Doctor Who is a show for kids. Kids and their families, yes, but without the kids you might as well not bother. In America it’s currently only being pushed to geeks. Let’s fix that.

[*]It would cement The Doctor as an archetypal character – Sherlock Holmes, Robin Hood, Batman, Spider-Man. What do they all have in common? A bajilion screen versions. A new one for every age. Did anybody moan that Tim Burton’s Batman didn’t tie up with the ‘60s TV series? If they did, they were silly people.

[*]It might stop Americans watching WhoK – Okay, so you just don’t like the idea of WhoSA existing, that’s fine. This one’s for all the moaners about ‘our’ show being broadcast the same week in the States or filmed there to ‘suck up to’ America. What if it acts as containment facility for American Who fans? What if they’re as insular as you are and decide to stick to their home-grown version? You might never have to read the phrase ‘Tom Baker on PBS when I was a kid’ ever again!

(Disclosure – I don’t really think this last one, but I’m willing to offer an olive branch to these oddly parochial followers of the most all-embracing of TV shows.)[/LIST]So, there you go. I have conclusively proved that it would be great.Hopefully my plane ticket to LA to act as a consultant won't be too held up by the Christmas post.
andy1231
16-12-2011
I do hope this post was a joke
allen_who
16-12-2011
I've said it before and I'll say it gain...

The Amercians can't do Doctor Who in the same way we can't do Baywatch...

Their Doctor Who would have a gun and shoot everyone - they just don't get it!

Our Baywatch would be in Blackpool and we'd have turds floating in the ocean and teenagers vomiting, urinating and copulating in the streets
Amyy.
16-12-2011
In the words of the famous youtube cat, no no no no no!
dalekaddison
16-12-2011
Lazlo, you are right.

As long as our Doctor Who remains intact, I couldn't give a Monkey's Uncle. Make as many movies as you like. It might actually make me want to watch new movies again as all the current stuff is rubbish.

Bring it on!

And the Crossover potential...

Bit concerned about each country having a Doctor though. Just seems a bit odd. Like Top Gear in a way. Doctor Who (We wouldn't need a country name ), Doctor Who USA, Doctor Who Australia, Doctor Who Germany etc. I'm a bit worried by that. How would I be able to watch them ALL! But you know I would be able too.

And the Crossover potential...

"Hey guys, next week there is going to be a crossover between Doctor Who Japan and Doctor Who Spain!" Oh the excitement!

(Is it wrong I don't want Steven Moffat to have anything to do with this movie? )
Paradise_Lost
16-12-2011
Because it has worked wonders for Torchwood.

I think it's a bit patronising towards Americans. It has become popular there already. The most popular British programme in fact. Part of the reason they watch it is because of it's Britishness. The Yanks expect it to be British. Harry Potter films have done quite well in the states and there's not an American in sight.
TEDR
16-12-2011
Originally Posted by allen_who:
“Their Doctor Who would have a gun and shoot everyone - they just don't get it!”

Yeah, or he'd be really good at kung fu and 75% of his episodes would be filled primarily with routinely shot car chases and pedestrian military action sequences.

Oh, wait, that was one of 'our' Doctors.
andy1231
16-12-2011
Originally Posted by Paradise_Lost:
“Because it has worked wonders for Torchwood. ”

I do hope you are being sarcastic !
TheSilentFez
16-12-2011
Originally Posted by Amyy.:
“In the words of the famous youtube cat, no no no no no! ”

INDEED!

I'd rather watch grass die than watch an American Doctor Who.
...but that's just me.
Corwin
16-12-2011
Whilst I wouldn't want to see an actual American version of DW it could be interesting to see a big Space Opera type show set in the Whoverse.

Maybe "The Abslom Daak Dalek Killer Chronicles" or if Alex K wants to go back to the U.S "The River Song Adventures."

Maybe even a Jack Harkness show, either when he was still a Time Agent or set a few 1000 years post Torchwood.
martine93
17-12-2011
This better be a joke.
pajs1000
17-12-2011
Has this thread "timeslipped" from the 1st April?
CAMERA OBSCURA
17-12-2011
Ohhh....urrgggghhh....I just did a little sick in my mouth.

Sorry Lazlo, I found the flat one dimensional and emotionally stunted characterisation of the last series too US sci fi as it was.

To quote Darth Vader.

'The force is strong in th....' hang on wrong quote.

What was it? ah yes..

'NOOOOOOOoooooooooo'


I truly cannot think of anything worse that could happen to the show than for it to go all US sci fi, God I hate most, if not all US Tv sci fi, and I rarely if at all use the word hate so that's how much of a bad idea I personally think it is.
Lazlo Wolf
17-12-2011
I'd like to post a response to the well-reasoned counter-arguments to my post.

...

But in the absence of any, I'll just deal with the responses I got:
[LIST][*]Do not assume opinions that you do not agree with are a joke. Surprisingly, people genuinely can have these.

[*]The UK can't do Baywatch because of a lack of sunny golden beaches. I believe that both quarries and film studios exist in America. The idea that all American TV shows are about a guy with a gun, who shoots people, doesn't really stand up to scrutiny.

[*]"A crossover between Doctor Who Japan and Doctor Who Spain!" You mean El Médico Misterioso and Enigmatic Time Gentleman Who are teaming up? I will watch that bad-boy in both languages.

[*]An American spin-off set in the same Who universe would work about as well as an all-swearing-and-bonking spin-off. Ahem.

[*]And if you only use 'hate' for US SF TV shows, you're this close to not having to use it all. Make that final leap. Unless Warehouse 13 killed your puppy, in which case: I'm sorry, I'm so so sorry.[/LIST]
Mystical123
17-12-2011
I'm hoping and thinking that this is an absolute joke, but seeing as you wanted well-reasoned responses, I'll try my best, although I might run out of steam towards the end

Originally Posted by Lazlo Wolf:
“Oh yes, I can positivise anything to do with the best TV program ever. Not a hoax! Not a trolling attempt! Think you don’t want WhoSA as well as WhoK? Prepare to change your mind.[LIST=1][*]There would be a ton of it – Twenty-odd new episodes of Doctor Who per year? How on Earth could that be a bad thing? Even if it’s films, you know that the first one will be called Doctor Who: Something of the Somethings, ready for a sequel. Heck, film three at the same time. Easily a bad thing - lack of quality springs to mind. Even decent programmes like Lost ended up being rubbish after about 3 seasons of 20+ episodes as the ideas simply weren't there. Less is more...

[*]It wouldn’t affect WhoK - Remember how nobody talks about the original ‘The Office’ now the American version is so popular? Or how Fawlty Towers was ruined by the poor American version ‘Amanda’s’? No? That’s because those things did not happen.

On the film side of things, do you really want a whole year’s production time and budget to go into two hours of Who? Let America take the strain on that, and BBC Wales can produce a whole new series at the same time. What about those of us who don't ever want to see a film about Who? One of the great things about DW is that it's a British show that's popular in America. I'm sure it wouldn't get such a rapturous reception at Comic-Con if it was an American imitation...

[*]It might be great – You know your favourite American writers of TV SciFi? Fiver says they are massive Doctor Who fans and thought they’d never get to write for it due to the British focus. They’ll be battering down the studio’s door. Same with films. Not an American sci-fi fan, so I wouldn't know if they're actually good or not, but why ignore British talent which doesn't have as many opportunities as those in the US already do?

[*]It might be terrible – Come on, admit it, you like a bit of wonky not-quite-Who as much as I do. Peter Cushing on a drizzly Sunday? Perfect. Studio interference could leave it like blue cheese. You know it doesn’t taste nice, but you can’t keep away. No, any Who episodes I don't like never get watched again, and I'm left with the feeling that an episode has been wasted. I don't particularly want to have that feeling 13 times a series...

[*]It would be different – Okay, this one only really works if, like me, you like the fact that Doctor Who almost completely changes every five years or so. But if that is that case, having two different versions running at the same time is exponentially enjoyable. Nope, no thanks. And honestly, do you really think 2 different versions of the same show running at the same time would work? This show depends on the constant that is the Doctor. Having 2 just wouldn't work - there are already enough parallel universes going on!

[*]Think of the crossovers – Companions! Enemies! Doctors! (On anniversaries and the like.) This ties in to my firm belief that all countries should have their own Doctor. A hundred different timelines cross-fertilising! I. Hate. Crossovers.

[*]Think of the merchandising – Yes, there’s a lot now, but imagine it cranked up to Hollywood levels. Proper Lego! Halfway-decent videogames! Cuddly every-damn-thing! Probably not Happy Meals, but a fellow can dream. I'm not a child, so merchandising is irrelevant. I watch it as a TV show, not a branding machine

[*]It would get American kids interested – Doctor Who is a show for kids. Kids and their families, yes, but without the kids you might as well not bother. In America it’s currently only being pushed to geeks. Let’s fix that. It's not only being pushed to geeks, it's on BBC America. In all the footage of Matt, Karen and Arthur in the US there were plenty of kids at all the screenings...

[*]It would cement The Doctor as an archetypal character – Sherlock Holmes, Robin Hood, Batman, Spider-Man. What do they all have in common? A bajilion screen versions. A new one for every age. Did anybody moan that Tim Burton’s Batman didn’t tie up with the ‘60s TV series? If they did, they were silly people. We've had 11 versions of the Doctor already, so this is frankly a non-argument.

[*]It might stop Americans watching WhoK – Okay, so you just don’t like the idea of WhoSA existing, that’s fine. This one’s for all the moaners about ‘our’ show being broadcast the same week in the States or filmed there to ‘suck up to’ America. What if it acts as containment facility for American Who fans? What if they’re as insular as you are and decide to stick to their home-grown version? You might never have to read the phrase ‘Tom Baker on PBS when I was a kid’ ever again! I'm quite happy for it to be broadcast in America, and I don't know anyone who thinks otherwise....

(Disclosure – I don’t really think this last one, but I’m willing to offer an olive branch to these oddly parochial followers of the most all-embracing of TV shows.)[/LIST]So, there you go. I have conclusively proved that it would be great.Hopefully my plane ticket to LA to act as a consultant won't be too held up by the Christmas post.”

So there you go, I have conclusively proven that none of your arguments are infallible
Lazlo Wolf
17-12-2011
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“I'm hoping and thinking that this is an absolute joke, but seeing as you wanted well-reasoned responses, I'll try my best, although I might run out of steam towards the end

So there you go, I have conclusively proven that none of your arguments are infallible ”

I never said they were. I leave that to my followers. :sleep:
[LIST=1][*]More is more. I've checked. If less was more, people would have been overjoyed at the Year o' Specials, and would be really hoping that Series 7 is spilt 2012/2013.

[*]You don't need to watch an American Who film. Much like I don't watch the Australian K-9 series. None of it is compulsory. Who gets a good reception in the US for being a British novelty. I'd like them to have their own equivalent cultural icon version.

[*]American writers for the American version. British writers for the British version. Everybody's happy.

[*]Fortunately whatever happens over the Atlantic, you still get your usual quota from Wales. Nothing's wasted.

[*]It doesn't seem to be harming Being Human. Either version.

[*]All crossovers? Even Dimensions in Time? Takes all sorts I suppose.

[*]So you agree that the kids should get lots of enjoyable 'stuff'? Great!

[*]BBC America is a niche channel that costs a bomb to subscribe to. This year's Christmas Special is on at 8PM at the earliest. America gets a Comic-Con panel. The UK gets a tour of schools. It's quite telling.

[*]We've had one version of the Doctor with one continuous story, played by 11 actors. Not remotely the same thing.

[*]Really? Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your first post! Trust me, there's a very vocal minority that don't want to share their toys.[/LIST]
eleya
17-12-2011
Originally Posted by allen_who:
“I've said it before and I'll say it gain...

The Amercians can't do Doctor Who in the same way we can't do Baywatch...

Their Doctor Who would have a gun and shoot everyone - they just don't get it!

Our Baywatch would be in Blackpool and we'd have turds floating in the ocean and teenagers vomiting, urinating and copulating in the streets”

I've said it before and I'll say it gain...

The Welsh can't do Doctor Who in the same way the English can't do Belonging...................

Actually does it really matter who makes it or where Doctor Who is made, so long as its good and we can watch it on the BBC?
allen_who
17-12-2011
Originally Posted by eleya:
“I've said it before and I'll say it gain...

The Welsh can't do Doctor Who in the same way the English can't do Belonging...................

Actually does it really matter who makes it or where Doctor Who is made, so long as its good and we can watch it on the BBC?”

Ha ha, why can't more people on here be like you? Take the p**s by all means but do it in a respectful way.

I probably did get carried away with my argument and to be honest I'm not that committed to my views. I just feel protective of Dr Who and feel the yanks would handle it badly. I've no objection to them having one more go with a small screen movie, so long as any big screen movie is handled by the British
eleya
17-12-2011
Originally Posted by allen_who:
“Ha ha, why can't more people on here be like you? Take the p**s by all means but do it in a respectful way.

I probably did get carried away with my argument and to be honest I'm not that committed to my views. I just feel protective of Dr Who and feel the yanks would handle it badly. I've no objection to them having one more go with a small screen movie, so long as any big screen movie is handled by the British”

I always enjoy your posts, and it is easy to get carried away by something you are so passionate about

Actually seeing as I mentioned Belonging, perhaps I should also add that it features Eve Myles, so it does have a tenuous link to Doctor Who
sandydune
17-12-2011
I think there would be a problem with the phrases used, for example

"I am the Doctor"

"I am the Medic"

it wouldn't work.
pajs1000
17-12-2011
Originally Posted by sandydune:
“I think there would be a problem with the phrases used, for example

"I am the Doctor"

"I am the Medic"

it wouldn't work.”

sandydune
17-12-2011
but just a thought, there was the Doctor and The Medics, liked them
Lorelei LaFleur
17-12-2011
People are too precious about Doctor Who but I don't know how they can be anymore - it's been screwed with so much.
I'd watch an American Doctor Who with an open mind - the chances are I wouldn't like it, but I'd watch it to find out.
My favourite TV show of all time is American, my favourite film of all time is American, my favourite band of all time is American.
In fact, now that I think about it more, I would love there to be US Who - bring it on.
BibaNova
17-12-2011
John Noble would be my choice as The Doctor. He plays Walter Bishop on Fringe. He has Doctorish qualities:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIeDWzls3gs
allen_who
18-12-2011
Originally Posted by Lorelei LaFleur:
“People are too precious about Doctor Who but I don't know how they can be anymore - it's been screwed with so much.
I'd watch an American Doctor Who with an open mind - the chances are I wouldn't like it, but I'd watch it to find out.
My favourite TV show of all time is American, my favourite film of all time is American, my favourite band of all time is American.
In fact, now that I think about it more, I would love there to be US Who - bring it on.”

My god, who is your favourite band of all time that is American? Twisted Sister were great but that's all I can think of??
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