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ilovezenyatta
17-12-2011
does anyone find her singing good?
do you think she raps and sings in all her songs?
i know when rappers rap its hip hop but tbh i actually think since she puts r&B and pop in all her songs i actually find her to be more hip pop to be quite honest. what do u think?
happyperson93
17-12-2011
i think nicki minaj is brilliant! love her songs
SexiRokStarr
17-12-2011
Originally Posted by ilovezenyatta:
“does anyone find her singing good?
do you think she raps and sings in all her songs?
i know when rappers rap its hip hop but tbh i actually think since she puts r&B and pop in all her songs i actually find her to be more hip pop to be quite honest. what do u think?”

Not all the time.
Some rappers do more pop/dance songs than hip-hop, i.e. Flo Rida & Pitbull
Breakadawn
17-12-2011
She is DIRE.
Dizagaox
17-12-2011
On Pink Friday, she sings more than people realise.

http://youtu.be/TMMjX-oWz6I?t=40s
Dizagaox
17-12-2011
Obviously she flat out sings on Turn Me On:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmg...2195947_webcam
mimi123456
18-12-2011
I absolutely hate her singing/rapping. Most of the time I have to check the lyircs out to what she is hollering about as it's just mumbo jumbo.

I do like her though cos she is totally crazy. Complete and utter weirdo. Her outfits are just plain mad. And she comes out with some mental stuff when she does interviews. She makes Mariah Carey look like a little angel. LOL.
Eric_Blob
18-12-2011
I really like Nicki.

And it's not particularly unusual to put pop and RnB elements into hip hop songs. That has been, you know, the dominant sound in popular music over the past 10 years!

I wouldn't say Nicki has many RnB elements in her songs though. Mainly dance/electro and pop elements.
Nisior
19-12-2011
I like SuperBass and Fly but honestly when she raps I mostly have no idea what she's saying unless I watch a lyric video. It'll be interesting to see where she goes, will she be around for decades or will she fade like Lil Kim.
mimi123456
19-12-2011
Oh she will definitely be around for a long time. She is doing something right with all these awards she is winning. Strange though as she has not had any UK no 1s, or USA no 1s. Hmmmm, why is she winning all these awards then? I don't think she is "all that" in USA.
D.A.N.N.Y
19-12-2011
She started out as Hip Hop but now she is a pop artist

Full of stupid gimmicks

The hip hop world has turned its back on her
iseloid
19-12-2011
she's smart and makes rap seem popular. which it generally isnt. and if you listen to hardcore rappers you can easily understand nicki. lord you'd think she was rapping in spanish. if you think nicki's hard to understand, try reggaeton. I understand it (bi-lingual and all) but nicki's not difficult to get.

there hasnt been a rap artist with pop appeal like nicki, musically and fashion wise. she'll probably be the biggest female rapper in music history by the time she retires. how many rap artists get to sit next to anna wintour (she's a bitch by the way ) by INVITE?!?!
barlowconnor
19-12-2011
i like a few of her songs espically superbass
Eric_Blob
19-12-2011
Originally Posted by iseloid:
“she's smart and makes rap seem popular. which it generally isnt. and if you listen to hardcore rappers you can easily understand nicki. lord you'd think she was rapping in spanish. if you think nicki's hard to understand, try reggaeton. I understand it (bi-lingual and all) but nicki's not difficult to get.

there hasnt been a rap artist with pop appeal like nicki, musically and fashion wise. she'll probably be the biggest female rapper in music history by the time she retires. how many rap artists get to sit next to anna wintour (she's a bitch by the way ) by INVITE?!?!”

Well, um, Nicki does have the slight avantage in that she's FEMALE!!

And also, "rap" IS popular at the moment. It's "hip hop" that's not popular. There's loads of rappers popular at the moment, like LMFAO, Pitbull, Flo Rida, Ke$ha, etc, but they're not hip hop artists.
mialicious
19-12-2011
Originally Posted by iseloid:
“she's smart and makes rap seem popular. which it generally isnt. and if you listen to hardcore rappers you can easily understand nicki. lord you'd think she was rapping in spanish. if you think nicki's hard to understand, try reggaeton. I understand it (bi-lingual and all) but nicki's not difficult to get.

there hasnt been a rap artist with pop appeal like nicki, musically and fashion wise. she'll probably be the biggest female rapper in music history by the time she retires. how many rap artists get to sit next to anna wintour (she's a bitch by the way ) by INVITE?!?!”

get real
Eric_Blob
19-12-2011
Originally Posted by mimi123456:
“Oh she will definitely be around for a long time. She is doing something right with all these awards she is winning. Strange though as she has not had any UK no 1s, or USA no 1s. Hmmmm, why is she winning all these awards then? I don't think she is "all that" in USA.”

To be fair to Nicki, you say she hasn't had a #1, but Super Bass has been bigger than a lot of #1s in the UK, and most #1s in the US. Where Them Girls At has also been bigger than a lot of #1s int he UK this year too.
mialicious
19-12-2011
Originally Posted by Eric_Blob:
“Well, um, Nicki does have the slight avantage in that she's FEMALE!!

And also, "rap" IS popular at the moment. It's "hip hop" that's not popular. There's loads of rappers popular at the moment, like LMFAO, Pitbull, Flo Rida, Ke$ha, etc, but they're not hip hop artists.”

hip hop is a style of music..rapping or rap is a style of performing

all those 'rappers' you mention are cack
snickerdoodle
19-12-2011
her songs are awesome
pink friday is most definitely one of the best albums of the year
shes even got a duet with natasha bedingfield on it!!!
Eric_Blob
19-12-2011
Originally Posted by mialicious:
“hip hop is a style of music..rapping or rap is a style of performing

all those 'rappers' you mention are cack”

Thanks for repeating basically what I said.

I was saying that rappers are popular today. Flo Rida, Pitbull, etc. are rappers.

But they're not hip hop artists, they're dance artists, like Lady Gaga is,
iseloid
19-12-2011
Originally Posted by mialicious:
“get real”

No I'm being serious. Nickis nearly outsold missy elliott, she'll easily outsell Lil' Kim, dont even start with Lil' Mama. SO I am being real.
iseloid
19-12-2011
Originally Posted by Eric_Blob:
“Thanks for repeating basically what I said.

I was saying that rappers are popular today. Flo Rida, Pitbull, etc. are rappers.

But they're not hip hop artists, they're dance artists, like Lady Gaga is,”

because thats where the money is. Nicki's highest charting song is super bass. sad seeing as most of her really good stuff was at best top 30 and moment 4 life and your love were top 20. (US positions of course).

dance music is massively.
ScotchMisst
19-12-2011
Originally Posted by ilovezenyatta:
“does anyone find her singing good?
do you think she raps and sings in all her songs?
i know when rappers rap its hip hop but tbh i actually think since she puts r&B and pop in all her songs i actually find her to be more hip pop to be quite honest. what do u think?”

i absolutely hated her when I heard Super Bass thought she was awful until I saw and heard the one she did with David Guetta was it (Where them girls at?). Wow that was fab, she was great, I love her solo bits, and strangely it's made me like her and all the rest she has done!
So I am glad I can be open minded and admit I was wrong - I totally changed my mind!!
iseloid
19-12-2011
Originally Posted by ScotchMisst:
“i absolutely hated her when I heard Super Bass thought she was awful until I saw and heard the one she did with David Guetta was it (Where them girls at?). Wow that was fab, she was great, I love her solo bits, and strangely it's made me like her and all the rest she has done!
So I am glad I can be open minded and admit I was wrong - I totally changed my mind!!”

for most hip hop/rap fans, super bass is her worst single. i prefer roman's revenge/did it on em/moment 4 life/your love. absolute tunes and great lyrics.
mialicious
19-12-2011
Originally Posted by iseloid:
“No I'm being serious. Nickis nearly outsold missy elliott, she'll easily outsell Lil' Kim, dont even start with Lil' Mama. SO I am being real.”

Minaj is a sub standard rip off of what missy elliot was doing 20 years ago!.. singing and rapping, crazy outfits, blinking and jerking movments in her music videos.
there have been loads of rappers with 'pop appeal' as you put it.. MC hammer was a household name in his heyday and sold millions as was LL cool J.
The biggest selling female rapper(s) of all time are salt n pepa who are multi paltinum...and easily outsold missy and lauryn and lil kim and every other female rapper.

Minaj dosnt set any precedents with fashion as well...besides the fact she is ripping off missy all she does is dye her hair weird colours.
hip hop fashion is every where, when you see someone wearing a pair of trainers for somthing other than sport that is hip hop when you see kids wearing there jeans round there knees and a basball cap that is hip hop.
Nearly every pop boyband/girl band uses hip hop fashion at some point look at the latest ones little mix..Even east 17 used to dress in a 'hip hop style'
Tommy hillfiger used to pay rappers to wear his clothes becuase when they did it sold. Adidas paid run dmc to wear there clothes.
Wu tang clan have there own fashion label wu wear which has been going for years as does jay z
iseloid
19-12-2011
Originally Posted by mialicious:
“Minaj is a sub standard rip off of what missy elliot was doing 20 years ago!.. singing and rapping, crazy outfits, blinking and jerking movments in her music videos.
there have been loads of rappers with 'pop appeal' as you put it.. MC hammer was a household name in his heyday and sold millions as was LL cool J.
The biggest selling female rapper(s) of all time are salt n pepa who are multi paltinum...and easily outsold missy and lauryn and lil kim and every other female rapper.

Minaj dosnt set any precedents with fashion as well...besides the fact she is ripping off missy all she does is dye her hair weird colours.
hip hop fashion is every where, when you see someone wearing a pair of trainers for somthing other than sport that is hip hop when you see kids wearing there jeans round there knees and a basball cap that is hip hop.
Nearly every pop boyband/girl band uses hip hop fashion at some point look at the latest ones little mix..Even east 17 used to dress in a 'hip hop style'
Tommy hillfiger used to pay rappers to wear his clothes becuase when they did it sold. Adidas paid run dmc to wear there clothes.
Wu tang clan have there own fashion label wu wear which has been going for years as does jay z”

sub standard but she has more appeal. she has the ability to be a hardcore rap artist with pop appeal. I didnt mean hip hop fashion, I meant fashion in general.thats mainly male hip hop fashion, and 90s fashion at that.
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