Its a good thing this album at least receives recognition from the grammys

I didn't like much, apart from some songs and videos.

BTW and Y&I as singles were bad choices, the album cover is horrific and the album as a whole is dark but bland, and I usually love dark music; although it needs an edge.

I think TEOG could have turned the albums fortunes around more than it did. Didn't it just start out as a promotional single before the album came out? Perhaps a full on, official release as second single with an amazing video would have worked wonders. When I first heard it, it screamed HIT!

Judas was like a cheap mimic of what made Gaga great and probably shouldn't have been released. It put me off purchasing the album for a while...

I agree. Had TEOG been the 2nd single, things would have played out very differently.

They really f*cked up there with Judas and the unnecessary promo singles.

I think that Born This Way, Judas, You And I and Marry The Night have all been horrific single choices. Born This Way chances of success were dented by the fact that it sounded a bit like Express Yourself. Judas and You And I are great album tracks but just do not work as a singles. Whilst Marry The Night is just so over hyped by literally everyone. I would haave liked to see the era go like this:
1. Scheisse - February (Promotional)
2. The Edge Of Glory - May (First Official)
Born This Way: The Album - May
3. Americano - August (Second Official/Follow up to the "Telephone"/"Paparazzi" videos)
4. Bloody Mary - November (Third Official and Remix released alongside it)
Born This Way: The Remix Album - November
5. Hair - January (Fourth Official)
6. Highway Unicorn - April (Fifth Official)

I loved the first era but this one has been crap. I think Born This Was is awful and the songs below par for the standard she is supposed to be capable of.

I don't know if its because I have discovered artists like Janelle Monáe and Lana Del Rey. Both of whom make Gaga look like some overhyped, desperate attention seeker or not but the magic I think is lost.

Or perhaps Gaga just peaked too soon and like Prince her career from here on here will never match her debut era.

her current single marry the night is still performing and its started go up a little bit on the itunes charts at one point it was at #53. now its at #37 in america. so there's still hope that mtn can still be a hit. the farthest mtn has peaked in america is at #29. so can mtn chart at least better than judas?

A bit premature but I'm gonna say it anyway. I think she's lost 'it'.

She could come out with her head literally cut off and nobody would be shocked because we're always expecting to be shocked by her which means she no longer has that factor.

I think she should take a year out - she shouldnt even tour this album as most of the songs are below par anyway imo... Take a year out, do another album and see how that pans out. She needs to leave Jesus/religion out of her music though as it's what made this album quite boring as she kept it as a running theme on most of the tracks. It's been done before by artists long before her time who did it in much more stylish, thought provoking ways. And she seriously needs to work on her melodies. "Hair" has the chance to be the best track on BTW and the intro started off with an epic intro, then just lost it afterwards and the melody was really lost in amongst the rest of the song.

She deserves it anyway. Nomatter how good the album was, it was always going to be picked apart after she said it was the voice of a generation and a masterpiece etc. So it's her own fault! Dont believe your own hype Gaga!!

well its obvious that she wants to shock everyone the way madonna did. each time madonna would release something.

she should finish the era with 'Americano' in Spring and possibly a remix with Beyonce

americano would be a good single. that could be her version of madonna's la isla bonita. even though her video for alejandro kind of reminded me of la isla bonita

Is Born This Way really considered widely to be a 'bad' album? I disagree with most people in this thread, as I thought it was absolutely solid. Two thirds of the songs on the album are worthy of 8 or 9/10's (Marry the Night, Judas, Scheiße, Government Hooker, Americano, Bloody Mary, Heavy Metal Lover, Edge of Glory).

Not sure what people here see in The Fame (not Monster, that was a great album). It's front-loaded, and the songs after the four singles are mediocre to utter rubbish. Money Honey sounds like a phoned-in version of Poker Face.

well born this way might be her artistically best album due to the sounds of the album as its really tbqh that the sounds are from the 80's with pop/rock and re-hash of madonna in it. the critics will say the fame monster is her best work.

lady gaga was ranked the 4th best selling digital artist of all time to date. actually thats good with sales of 42,078,000. that's good and her albums sell as well. she's sold over 25 million records with just 3 years into music and her albums sell much quicker than some artists that are out today. if you notice half of the sales are from just dance, poker face and bad romance. but since those hits came along people have started to buy her albums and decided she's an albums artist and one of the few artists today who has talent.

I don't think it's widely seen as 'bad' at all, online forums rarely reflect general opinion. Particularly not when concerning someone like Gaga who attracts just as many detractors as she does fans into threads.

It's certainly not been as universal as TF or TFM though, but that's to be expected really when you consider how easily accessible they were compared to BTW. When you see the kind of songs the public are loving right now ('Party Rock Anthem', 'We Found Love', 'Moves Like Jagger', Adele etc), it doesn't really match with these weird, dark, 80's throwback songs about hookers, religion, unicorns and death.

That being said, it has a good Metacritic score (despite one critic immaturely scoring her a '0'), and of course the sales are strong...so it's obviously not as 'bad' as the negativity likes to imply. I think BTW just isn't for everyone, but people have interpreted that as 'poor' or 'bad'.

I personally agree with you (as do many, many others I have spoken to might I add) that The Fame was fine, the singles are killer pop songs and it has a few good album tracks...but it's overrated beyond that. It's good by pop standards, don't get me wrong, but when you have The Fame Monster and Born This Way to compare it to - in hindsight, it's her clear weakest. That part of her career was amazing because of her being fresh and exciting, not the album.

I love TFM, but BTW has more amazing-to-ok song ratio and I find it somewhat staggering that people can prefer TF over it. It's a stronger body of work, it had more to say, musically, thematically and stylistically it had more creativity in one track, and she demonstrated her potential as an artist. But, different strokes, for different folks though I guess.

I think - or rather, I hope - that in time to come more people will appreciate BTW. It's underrated somewhat by being overrated, if that makes sense?

No modern pop star has "eras"

Well all 3 of her releases have met with similar success so far!! Even born this way too!! With just only 2 mega hits like the title track and the edge of glory