Originally Posted by CheekySAUCISSON:
“ But something I have wondered is whether all these vindictive, shallow and cruel people who hurl abuse at her for her weight and find annnnnnything they can to slate her over.. if they have actually got to her? And hurt her?”
She's not a robot she's a human being and as much as you can try and ignore hate/haters the amount and relentless nature of the stuff that's been flung at or about Josie over the last 7 months would affect even the strongest of people to some extent. She presents this tough exterior to the world and she is resiliant and a survivor but there's a reason she builds walls 10 feet thick around her heart as a way of protecting herself against those who may seek to do her/it harm because she's the only one who truly knows how vunerable it is or can be.
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“That she feels she has to go to boot camp to get fit and healthy and lose some weight to escape the evil taunts of her being obese etc..”
If people are constantly taking the piss out of or trying to tear you down by attacking your looks of course that's going to affect you. The person who said 'stick and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me' was an idiot, cruel and hurtful words can stay with you long past the time it takes for bruises to heal or bones to mend, any kind of abuse physical or emotional is still abuse. John claims not to give a rip about what people think but look how he reacted to all the crabeyes stuff, to being called a little midget bullfighter at school by the cool/mean girls, look at how Josie reacted to all the taunts/comments by Sammy/Dave/John with regards to her weight. Look how insecure it made them both feel, how self concious.
People are so focused on looks/appearance/image these days, wow she/he's beautiful/handsome/fit I wish I looked like them

if I buy this product or that outfit or go to this place maybe I can be beautiful/handsome too?

jeez look how ugly/fat/weird looking they are

pmsl! guess I'm not so bad after all

I'm better than them anyhow

celebrity culture is all about putting people on pedestals then trying to knock them off and make them just as ordinary as us how many magazine pieces about this star or that in unflattering shots showing celulite, spots, bad hair days etc etc
It's one thing I never admired much about either John or Josie, how much attention they gave to their own and other peoples looks. It was a sign of their insecurities and created a lot of misunderstandings and unecessary hurt between them.
Originally Posted by CheekySAUCISSON:
“I don't think he was hoping for/expecting any media publicity but that he was simply lashing out in fury at what he considered to be Josie's gall ..”
Yep
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“ I think he wanted to humiliate her as she'd just said in the interview that she wanted NO contact with him.”
John tweeted BEFORE the article was posted up on the internet. I know some are claiming he had prior knowledge of the article but I doubt that's true. Why? well for one unless the laws changed since May there's no legal requirement for magazines to pre-notify celebs about stories coming out about them
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12154045
http://www.indexoncensorship.org/201...ification-bid/
Would an editor pre-notify a celeb in order to beef up a story, make it more balanced? sure if the content of the piece was newsworthy enough they might, or alternatively if they wanted to keep the celeb on side because at some future point they may want to do articles/interviews with them but can't really see either of those things applying in this case can you? the article wasn't about John, it was a throwaway dig at an ex who she parted from on less than friendly terms ie he was a shit bf who I don't want any contact with, hardly earth shattering stuff is it
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“Now this two sides is something entirely different,one side think they're defending her,the other side think they're defending him”
They're not defending anything except their own egos and views.
Originally Posted by bblover:
“So what's he's supposed to do about it?”
He's shown he doesn't WANT to do anything. As far as he's concerned if people are slating her for throwing a vase, choking someone, using a taser she's brought that on herself, it's nothing to do with him, he has no control over that, not my problem, I've had death threats, deal with your own shit I've had to deal with mine!
He's right upto a point because she is responsible and accountable for the things she says and does
But....
she isn't just dealing with the things she says and does though is she, she's also having to defend herself against the things he's said, implied or introduced into the mix too like the vase throwing and choking comments, was he being serious or just being an arse because he was ticked off? that's been his MO for a while though, drop a few hints/comments here or there, post a few lyrics, put up a video to imply certain stuff and some of his fans pick it up and run with it, in other words he loads their guns with the bullets and they shoot them on his behalf. Some of Josie's fans are just as bad as they pick up the comments she makes in the press and do exactly the same. The difference is Josie's on twitter regularly so the hate never stops, John these days just comes in for some of it when he makes the odd reappearance every now and again.
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“Do you really think if he asked them to stop they will?:.”
Sam did. Sam didn't stop laying into Josie because he suddenly became fond of her he did it because he looked up to John and John wasn't laughing at him anymore he was ticked off instead, it had gone too far and John was getting grief because of it. There's a lesson for the haters in there somewhere but I doubt they'll heed it.
If John truly was all the things people heap praise on him for whether or not Josie is someone he cares about anymore or not he would want the hate that's carried out in his name to stop. The fact that he apparently doesn't is disappointing.