[jjesso123]

Originally Posted by 2Dshmuplover

It's not just necessarily what's been said here Jesso with you defending the price point of the Vita (when many Sony fans worldwide are complaining about the price of the memory cards and inflated RRP for Ucharted) and launching into a history of Sony R&D while referencing "nice" 'articles from IGN outlining how cheap the whole 3ds is'.

You don't see how it looks from my side of the fence? lol You are always incredibly defensive and touchy over Sony. I don't actually have any problem with that as we all like/enthuse over different things and it's led into some quite interesting debates, but you are the one always pointing the finger at me calling me a fanboy, you've already done it here on this page saying "Anyone who read your past comments will know [I'm biased]". This is why I'm bringing it up now.

I'd like to know what I'm supposedly biased toward or a fanboy of exactly, because from past debates I've only ever spoken in terms of the facts which you nearly always get upset over and anything else I've said is merely my opinion/preference which you also appear to have major problems with. I don't think I'm really the one with the issue tbh.

I only brought that up because you questioned me on my comment about 3ds being cheap produce not ones twice.Then you went on ask if 3d tech is cheap produce. then you went on complain about ps vita not having 3d screen. You see you started this long drawn out debate not me. I was simply responding your comments.

Again jumping to conclusions. I've always expressed my anger over memory sticks in the other thread. I've not had chance express my anger over the game prices yet but tell you its pissed me off lot.

I was simply showing how its unlikely Sony will drop the price, simply because of much its probably being produced for. I've not said ones its worth buying. I was only stated from hardware perspective that vita justifies the price is placed at.

Please read back my firsts comments and you will see all was doing is explaining how Nintendo where able to cut 3ds price so much and how its very unlikely Sony could do same with hurting them really bad. you seem to had some kind misunderstanding here and jump the gun.

[MartinImber]

We will get one when it can support multiple PSN accounts.

[fastest finger]

Originally Posted by MartinImber

We will get one when it can support multiple PSN accounts.

It can, as long as you have multiple memory cards - 1 per account.

[Gormond]

Originally Posted by fastest finger

It can, as long as you have multiple memory cards - 1 per account.

And I don't see that changing anytime soon TBH

[Glasgowdude2011]

Hi well I feel the cost of the console is expected with Sony nit making much esp with the better links to ps3 and more but what is wrong is forcing us to buy new expensive memory's cards and some games as expensive as ps3 or dearer. The 16gb is not £44 on amazon it's £39 still expensive. I would say a 2gb starter memory card if you trade in memory sticks would be a good deal

[MartinImber]

Originally Posted by fastest finger

It can, as long as you have multiple memory cards - 1 per account.

I have heard it doesn't otherwise we would get one at launch

[jjesso123]

Originally Posted by MartinImber

I have heard it doesn't otherwise we would get one at launch

As the poster said as long as you buy individual flash cards, you can have different PSN accounts.

I can't believe Sony would be this stupid though, can't they see there shooting themselves in the foot with the game prices and memory cards.

I was buying the system on launch hardware price is not the problem for me.t would be £327.96 to get what I want at launch. £40 retail for UC:GA is way to much, and memory cards are way out of balance compared to sd. 16gb can be had for £10 that is 4x the price to get a vita one.

[Conroy]

Amazon was selling UC:GA for under £29 recently. I'm sure when the unit has launched, retailers will price the titles in a similar range to what 3DS games go for, afterall, who here bought any of the last 4 COD titles at their £54.99 RRP (for the standard edition) or any other PS3 game at £49.99?

As for sales in Japan, sales are lower because apart from Everybody's Golf, I don't think there are any well known Japanese titles out (Uncharted is not popular in Japan) and the Vita has competition from the 3DS (the 3DS launched without a direct competitor so anyone wanting to jump to the next generation of handheld gaming only had one option). If Capcom announce and release a Monster Hunter 4 and Sega did the same with a Yakuza game then sales will pick up.

The Metal Gear Solid HD Collection should see a units flying off the shelves soon, as will Final Fantasy X.

Originally Posted by jjesso123

16gb can be had for £10 that is 4x the price to get a vita one.

Out of curiosity, what class would that card be? The Vita cards have to be very fast if they are to stream so much data successfully without any kind of lag.

[misawa97]

The memory card prices are a joke. I already have a 3ds and I ain't buying the vita at launch. The hardware plus a 16gb or 32gb card plus two games is silly money.

I noticed in Japan the 2nd week sales dropped off big time. Not sure what Sony are going to do as from what I see they don't have killer must have software.

Everybody knew ninty would be alright once Mario Kart and mario came out. They still have a new monster hunter, dragon quest and pokeman to release as well.

For me no gaming handheld should cost more than £199.00

[Flawed-Tactics]

Originally Posted by Ash_735

Like any of this matters, the Vita's bombed harder than the 3DS in Japan, one good week of sales and then a flop in the week DURING X-MAS, oh dear Sony, and with news that Hackers have already manipulated the PSP Emulator it to get into the device and run Homebrew, it won't be long before Linux is on the Vita, ...I mean, the Vita gets fully hacked, and it's STILL not even out over here nor in America.

By the time February comes, the hackers would have ripped apart the Vita and Sony is left with the choice to remove the PSP Emulator or just let it happen, and both options arn't exactly good!

edit: @jjesso123, don't worry, 2D could argue with a tree if he thought it lent slightly the wrong way!

Why do Sony always leave the door slightly open and allow hackers easy entry.

[misawa97]

Sony are trying to push this as a portable ps3. However I don't need a handheld which allows me to play the same games at home on a TV.

Nintendo are different in the sense they don't have a problem in only giving you certain killer games on there handheld. You want Pokemon buy the handheld. You want dragon quest buy the handheld. You want the new Mario Kart buy the handheld.

Are Sony prepared to only release there big titles on the vita and not ps3. I don't think they are.

[CSI-uk]

At those prices only PS3 owners will be buying the Vita. Given the choice PS3 or Vita? The handheld would lose out most of the time I would have thought.

[The Sack]

ill think about getting one when i see if the analogue stick are as shit as they are on the dual shock 3. Its bad enough having to lob a pad every 8 or 9 months because the left stick has worn that bad its in to the D Pad, dont fancy having to chuck an expensive console because of the same reason.

[ags_rule]

Originally Posted by The Sack

ill think about getting one when i see if the analogue stick are as shit as they are on the dual shock 3. Its bad enough having to lob a pad every 8 or 9 months because the left stick has worn that bad its in to the D Pad, dont fancy having to chuck an expensive console because of the same reason.

What way do you use your controllers?!

I've owned every Sony console and one thing that has always been consistent for me has been the excellent build quality of the controllers, never had any problems.

[jjesso123]

Originally Posted by Conroy

Amazon was selling UC:GA for under £29 recently. I'm sure when the unit has launched, retailers will price the titles in a similar range to what 3DS games go for, afterall, who here bought any of the last 4 COD titles at their £54.99 RRP (for the standard edition) or any other PS3 game at £49.99?

As for sales in Japan, sales are lower because apart from Everybody's Golf, I don't think there are any well known Japanese titles out (Uncharted is not popular in Japan) and the Vita has competition from the 3DS (the 3DS launched without a direct competitor so anyone wanting to jump to the next generation of handheld gaming only had one option). If Capcom announce and release a Monster Hunter 4 and Sega did the same with a Yakuza game then sales will pick up.

The Metal Gear Solid HD Collection should see a units flying off the shelves soon, as will Final Fantasy X.

Out of curiosity, what class would that card be? The Vita cards have to be very fast if they are to stream so much data successfully without any kind of lag.

Its actually £28 they changed there prices when Sony announced there proper price point. Amazon's price simply place holder price.

Looking around for 16gb SD you can get a class 4 for £10 and class 10 for £15.

My mums away in feb, in Florida so tempted to ask her pick one that would shave £100 of the cost everything I want over here.

[misawa97]

Originally Posted by jjesso123

Its actually £28 they changed there prices when Sony announced there proper price point. Amazon's price simply place holder price.

Looking around for 16gb SD you can get a class 4 for £10 and class 10 for £15.

My mums away in feb, in Florida so tempted to ask her pick one that would shave £100 of the cost everything I want over here.

U can't use standard sd cards. Amazon's are charging £40 for the vita 16gb card.

[jjesso123]

Originally Posted by misawa97

U can't use standard sd cards. Amazon's are charging £40 for the vita 16gb card.

Yes I know I was comparing the prices, to show have much of rip they are

[misawa97]

Originally Posted by jjesso123

Yes I know I was comparing the prices, to show have much of rip they are

Total rip off.

[jjesso123]

Originally Posted by misawa97

Total rip off.

Hopefully the Chinese will get on making cheaper clones as fast as possible.

[Conroy]

New technology always has been and always will be expensive. I remember when the PSP launched in the UK, I paid £95 for a 1GB SanDisk Gaming Pro Duo memory stick and that was cheap at the time (the RRP was a bit more).

[misawa97]

Originally Posted by Conroy

New technology always has been and always will be expensive. I remember when the PSP launched in the UK, I paid £95 for a 1GB SanDisk Gaming Pro Duo memory stick and that was cheap at the time (the RRP was a bit more).

But they could of just went with a standard SD format but decided not to. No excuses!!

[MD1500]

While I tend to prefer Nintendo, I want the Vita to succeed because competition is good. In fact, until I heard about the memory cards, I was thinking about buying one.

They really need to include a small memory card as standard. If you buy an expensive dedicated handheld and a game, you should be able to play it, without forking out even more money.

If Nintendo can include a 2GB card as standard with the 3DS - why can't Sony?

[The Sack]

Originally Posted by ags_rule

What way do you use your controllers?!

I've owned every Sony console and one thing that has always been consistent for me has been the excellent build quality of the controllers, never had any problems.

Arent you the lucky boy then. My original six axis pads are still fine, showing no signs of wear other than knackered batteries. However every DS3 i have owned ends up with a highly worn left stick thanks to COD etc. Where the pad case meets the stick ends up just wearing each other away.

The DS3 is clearly made to a poorer standard than the original six axis. There was a thread about it on here and its not just me, a number of people i know in real life have the same problems.

[jjesso123]

Originally Posted by MD1500

While I tend to prefer Nintendo, I want the Vita to succeed because competition is good. In fact, until I heard about the memory cards, I was thinking about buying one.

They really need to include a small memory card as standard. If you buy an expensive dedicated handheld and a game, you should be able to play it, without forking out even more money.

If Nintendo can include a 2GB card as standard with the 3DS - why can't Sony?

Its hard to tell why Sony have chosen to this, apparently from them its to do with supper fast cards, still does not explain the cost as I can't see them being any faster then class 10 SD's, or even why they could noy include 4gb card.

In my opinion I think Sony are really going to struggle, Its £284.97 for a 16gb Memory card, vita ,UC in amazon.

[rosetech]

Originally Posted by Ash_735

...and with news that Hackers have already manipulated the PSP Emulator it to get into the device and run Homebrew, it won't be long before Linux is on the Vita, ...I mean, the Vita gets fully hacked, and it's STILL not even out over here nor in America.

By the time February comes, the hackers would have ripped apart the Vita and Sony is left with the choice to remove the PSP Emulator or just let it happen, and both options arn't exactly good!

The vita supports official homebrew via ps-suite No need to hack it, Sony have already indicated the vita will have similar SDK to that of Android and IOS devices, so anyone can start developing apps (for Vita and any devices which support ps-suite - which may include the PS3).