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Beyoncé flopping
I can't believe how poorly her album "4" has performed, only sporting one successful top ten hit to date in the form of Best Thing I Never Had. What has gone wrong?
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The album leaked
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The album isn't doing amazingly well but it was never really supposed to. It's the least commercial album she's released. It was a big risk releasing '4' because although the tracks are fine, none of them are mainstream enough to sell alone or sell the album.
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The album isn't doing amazingly well but it was never really supposed to. It's the least commercial album she's released. It was a big risk releasing '4' because although the tracks are fine, none of them are mainstream enough to sell alone or sell the album.
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The words Beyonce and Flopping don't go together. It's still been a success even if it hasn't done as well as her previous albums.
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well in the u.s. the best thing i never had peaked in at no.16. it failed to be a top 10 hit probably due to the lyrics maybe. but i think the 4 album is probably her best work to date imho. well it is a flop but maybe a few singles can save the album.
i'd like to say that when janet jackson released the velvet rope album in late 1997 which artistically her best work yet. her first single flopped. but her 2nd single together again saved the album from flopping. and together again is the biggest song in her career to date. |
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so sad she spent a 2 year break getting reinspired for this album
all that time gone to waste lmao! whereas she recorded b'day in such a short space of time (in six months or something) like she wasn't even bothered and that was way more successful (cos its way better) WEIRD :S |
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The album isn't doing amazingly well but it was never really supposed to. It's the least commercial album she's released. It was a big risk releasing '4' because although the tracks are fine, none of them are mainstream enough to sell alone or sell the album.
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Shes at a point now where shes doesnt NEED massive selling commercial sounding albums.
Im glad she released 4.. shows she still cares about MUSIC and not friggin youtube views/sales etc (Lady GaGa/ Rihanna etal) It didnt 'flop' it just didnt do as her previous albums did.. which is expected because '4' isnt like her previous albums. |
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No, she's not flopping.She's underperforming, there is a difference.She's sold 1,4 million worldwide or something and since there are only 25-30 other artists who can sell more than this right now, that means she's doing moderately well for the industry's standards, even though for her standards she's doing pretty bad, but still not bad enough to be labelled as a flop
![]() HOWEVER, If I hear one more Beyonce fan claim that she didn't care about commercial success with this album, I'll start punching myself in the head!
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No, she's not flopping.She's underperforming, there is a difference.She's sold 1,4 million worldwide or something and since there are only 25-30 other artists who can sell more than this right now, that means she's doing moderately well for the industry's standards, even though for her standards she's doing pretty bad, but still not bad enough to be labelled as a flop
![]() HOWEVER, If I hear one more Beyonce fan claim that she didn't care about commercial success with this album, I'll start punching myself in the head! ![]() b) She is working with the Dream again. |
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It is not as good as her other albums. 16 isnt that good for her at all
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According to The Dream she is already recording new music, presumably for her 5th album and her Magnum Opus
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Because the album is terrible.
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It is because her father does not manage her anymore. He was the driving force behind her an excellent manager, I think she should rehire him
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According to The Dream she is already recording new music, presumably for her 5th album and her Magnum Opus
![]() the dream is terrible! he cannot produce music at all. he wrecked mariah's career with memoirs of an imperfect whale. |
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nonono!
the dream is terrible! he cannot produce music at all. he wrecked mariah's career with memoirs of an imperfect whale.
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It's not surprising, bar a couple of tracks the album kind of merges into one.
It's instantly dated because it's just a bit of a rehash of oldschool rnb, not very original, not groundbreaking. Something Beyoncé obviously likes and is at a point in her career she can take time out from being super successful to just release an album because she wants to. Her Performances this era have been spectacular though, her festival performances were outstanding, TITP easily the best £250 I've spent, she was flawless. She's upped her profile in general I think, whilst maybe not quite upping her music sales. Next era she'll be back with a bang, since this era hasn't exactly been original, I reckon she'll have double the amount of originality and will come out with something fresh rather than dated next time. |
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I'm not surprised to hear she's recording a new album already.
I don't think she'll need too much time off after her ''pregnancy''.
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It's not surprising, bar a couple of tracks the album kind of merges into one.
It's instantly dated because it's just a bit of a rehash of oldschool rnb, not very original, not groundbreaking. Something Beyoncé obviously likes and is at a point in her career she can take time out from being super successful to just release an album because she wants to. Her Performances this era have been spectacular though, her festival performances were outstanding, TITP easily the best £250 I've spent, she was flawless. She's upped her profile in general I think, whilst maybe not quite upping her music sales. Next era she'll be back with a bang, since this era hasn't exactly been original, I reckon she'll have double the amount of originality and will come out with something fresh rather than dated next time. Although commercially this hasn't been her best period, I don't think it has had an impact on her and her media depiction half as much as it would other artists (although concede her pregnancy may have helped on this front) and would say this has still definitely been a successful year for her. |
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I'm not surprised to hear she's recording a new album already.
I don't think she'll need to much time off after her ''pregnancy''. ![]() |
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It's not surprising, bar a couple of tracks the album kind of merges into one.
It's instantly dated because it's just a bit of a rehash of oldschool rnb, not very original, not groundbreaking. Something Beyoncé obviously likes and is at a point in her career she can take time out from being super successful to just release an album because she wants to. Her Performances this era have been spectacular though, her festival performances were outstanding, TITP easily the best £250 I've spent, she was flawless. She's upped her profile in general I think, whilst maybe not quite upping her music sales. Next era she'll be back with a bang, since this era hasn't exactly been original, I reckon she'll have double the amount of originality and will come out with something fresh rather than dated next time. I personally love the album apart from 1+1 and Run The World, what was she thinking? |
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The album isn't doing amazingly well but it was never really supposed to. It's the least commercial album she's released. It was a big risk releasing '4' because although the tracks are fine, none of them are mainstream enough to sell alone or sell the album.
I wouldn't really call the album "a big risk" since it's still pop, soul and R&B and has a current sound. A lot of the tracks are really not that much different to what she did on "I Am...Sasha Fierce". Some of the tracks also have a similar vibe to those on Rihanna's "Talk That Talk". The album and the singles haven't done as well because they're not as good as her past efforts. It's nothing to do with taking supposed risks etc., it's more to do with there not being strong material like "Halo" and "Single Ladies" on this album. People just aren't as interested. |
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I don't think it did well because she seems to have given up on the whole thing for her pregnancy. None of her album eras start out huge and just as she would've been building up to push it high, she pulled back to rest/relax.
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