Beyonce, all the way.
Beyonce or Britney?
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Originally Posted by CSweeet7:
“And I am really unsure as to why everyone claims that Beyonce is a fantastic performer
She just wails all the time, shakes her head around and crawls around on the floor!”
“And I am really unsure as to why everyone claims that Beyonce is a fantastic performer
She just wails all the time, shakes her head around and crawls around on the floor!”
Exactly!!Her fans/stans seem to regard her as an exceptional performer who can do no wrong, but what about THIS??
She's consistent, yes, but what she's consistent at is mediocrity, she's by no means as excellent as she's made out to be 
She could get there possibly, though, but not yet...
Originally Posted by O.Michel:
“Exactly!!Her fans/stans seem to regard her as an exceptional performer who can do no wrong, but what about THIS?? She's consistent, yes, but what she's consistent at is mediocrity, she's by no means as excellent as she's made out to be She could get there possibly, though, but not yet...”
“Exactly!!Her fans/stans seem to regard her as an exceptional performer who can do no wrong, but what about THIS??
She's consistent, yes, but what she's consistent at is mediocrity, she's by no means as excellent as she's made out to be She could get there possibly, though, but not yet...”
I understand that some fans or 'stans' do go a bit overboard but surely if she 'screams' through her performances, she wouldn't be able to garner as much respect from the industry? and would her screaming make her less of a role model compared to Britney who doesn't even make an effort to sing live?
Originally Posted by qwerty444:
“I understand that some fans or 'stans' do go a bit overboard but surely if she 'screams' through her performances, she wouldn't be able to garner as much respect from the industry? and would her screaming make her less of a role model compared to Britney who doesn't even make an effort to sing live?”
“I understand that some fans or 'stans' do go a bit overboard but surely if she 'screams' through her performances, she wouldn't be able to garner as much respect from the industry? and would her screaming make her less of a role model compared to Britney who doesn't even make an effort to sing live?”
I don't think she's screaming.Her runs and melisma are over the top many times and she tends to show off and fail spectacularly by ruining the melody, but those flaws cannot change the fact that her technique is flawless.She's a great vocalist.The video I posted, however, shows that she's by no means a seasoned performer yet.Those "moves" are just ridiculous and this video, even if it lasts 30 seconds, is the reason why I always cringe a bit when she's billed as an excellent dancer.The fact that she's better than the other current acts doesn't mean she's anything to rave about.
Originally Posted by O.Michel:
“I don't think she's screaming.Her runs and melisma are over the top many times and she tends to show off and fail spectacularly by ruining the melody, but those flaws cannot change the fact that her technique is flawless.She's a great vocalist.The video I posted, however, shows that she's by no means a seasoned performer yet.Those "moves" are just ridiculous and this video, even if it lasts 30 seconds, is the reason why I always cringe a bit when she's billed as an excellent dancer.The fact that she's better than the other current acts doesn't mean she's anything to rave about.”
“I don't think she's screaming.Her runs and melisma are over the top many times and she tends to show off and fail spectacularly by ruining the melody, but those flaws cannot change the fact that her technique is flawless.She's a great vocalist.The video I posted, however, shows that she's by no means a seasoned performer yet.Those "moves" are just ridiculous and this video, even if it lasts 30 seconds, is the reason why I always cringe a bit when she's billed as an excellent dancer.The fact that she's better than the other current acts doesn't mean she's anything to rave about.
”
Who would you say is a better role model today then, Beyonce or Britney?
Originally Posted by qwerty444:
“Who would you say is a better role model today then, Beyonce or Britney?”
“Who would you say is a better role model today then, Beyonce or Britney?”
It depends.I think, in a way, they both are.Beyonce is a hard worker and Britney is a true hustler.People probably don't see it but it's very strange that she is happy now after being taken advantage of for so many years and after such an epic breakdown, but she's probably made it now, so she's a rolemodel too.
The thing is that Beyonce gets huge love from the media since the beginning of DC's career, while Britney obviously got plenty of shade back in 2003/2004 and then her breakdown made her a laughing stock, so people would just say that Beyonce is a rolemodel while Britney isn't, but it isn't entirely true.I can tell that they both mean a lot to their respective fanbases
Originally Posted by O.Michel:
“Exactly!!Her fans/stans seem to regard her as an exceptional performer who can do no wrong, but what about THIS?? She's consistent, yes, but what she's consistent at is mediocrity, she's by no means as excellent as she's made out to be She could get there possibly, though, but not yet...”
“Exactly!!Her fans/stans seem to regard her as an exceptional performer who can do no wrong, but what about THIS??
She's consistent, yes, but what she's consistent at is mediocrity, she's by no means as excellent as she's made out to be She could get there possibly, though, but not yet...”
She probably put more effort in that than what Britney does in a whole show
. Plus she was clearly having a bit of fun. We see how well she dances in other performances.People can't come at Beyoncé's performance skills and not say nothing about Britney.
And I know you didn't say it, but Beyoncé doesn't scream. I'd rather hear 'screaming' then hear someone mime a full show (not here for singing one song live or whatever
)..It seems some people praise Britney because she's comeback from her breakdown, which is great and her fans should be proud about that, but I also find it admirable that Beyoncé hasn't had a breakdown, has her head screwed on tight and has been able to handle the pressure of fame throughout her whole life.
Originally Posted by CSweeet7:
“And I am really unsure as to why everyone claims that Beyonce is a fantastic performer She just wails all the time, shakes her head around and crawls around on the floor!”
“And I am really unsure as to why everyone claims that Beyonce is a fantastic performer
She just wails all the time, shakes her head around and crawls around on the floor!”
Sounds good to me
Beyonce without a doubt. I actually can't see a reasoned argument as to how Britney could possibly be described as a better role model (bouncing back from her breakdown aside, which is admirable and I am happy for her). The only way Britney could be described as a role model is as a poster girl for becoming a musical icon with little, or no musical talent to speak of.
Originally Posted by iseloid:
“beyonce.she's had to work very hard to earn $27m minimum a year, businesses, ads, record sales, public rep. and not forgetting how hard her and DC had to work to get a deal. she's worked FAR harder than most in the industry today. it takes ages to get a voice like hers and performance skills. Ive seen her i am tour, and the work she put into it almost 2 years before the first rehearsal to make sure it was all perfect. britney mimes and B does it all live. Look at the influence. who has britney influenced who's in the industry? no one. thats because she's had nothing to show. beyonce's inspired alexandra burke, rihanna, nicki minaj, jojo, nicole scherzinger even leona lewis. she goes hard in all she does, and it shows (glasto 2011?)
is incredible. she works hard and deserves what she has, father as her manager or not. and if B had a breakdown like britney i doubt she could make a comeback at all. she'd be ridiculed on a horrific scale (IMHO).”
“beyonce.she's had to work very hard to earn $27m minimum a year, businesses, ads, record sales, public rep. and not forgetting how hard her and DC had to work to get a deal. she's worked FAR harder than most in the industry today. it takes ages to get a voice like hers and performance skills. Ive seen her i am tour, and the work she put into it almost 2 years before the first rehearsal to make sure it was all perfect. britney mimes and B does it all live. Look at the influence. who has britney influenced who's in the industry? no one. thats because she's had nothing to show. beyonce's inspired alexandra burke, rihanna, nicki minaj, jojo, nicole scherzinger even leona lewis. she goes hard in all she does, and it shows (glasto 2011?)
is incredible. she works hard and deserves what she has, father as her manager or not. and if B had a breakdown like britney i doubt she could make a comeback at all. she'd be ridiculed on a horrific scale (IMHO).”
Ok let's see who are today's artists inspired by:
Lady gaga: both of them
Katy perry: both of them
Rihanna: both of them
Adele: beyonce
Nicki minaj: both of them
Selena Gomez: Britney
Demi Lovato: Britney
Miley Cyrus: both of them
Jojo: Beyonce
Leona Lewis: beyonce
Alexandra Burke: beyonce
Jessie j: beyonce
Nicole scherzinger: beyonce
Trey songz: beyonce
Keri hilson: beyonce
Miranda lambert: beyonce
Fantasia: beyonce
Jazmine Sullivan: beyonce
Gwyenth Paltrow: beyonce
Ciara: both of them
Kristina DeBarge: Britney
Kesha: britney
Little boots: Britney
Pixie Lott: Britney
Originally Posted by ilovezenyatta:
“Ok let's see who are today's artists inspired by:
Lady gaga: both of them
Katy perry: both of them
Rihanna: both of them
Adele: beyonce
Nicki minaj: both of them
Selena Gomez: Britney
Demi Lovato: Britney
Miley Cyrus: both of them
Jojo: Beyonce
Leona Lewis: beyonce
Alexandra Burke: beyonce
Jessie j: beyonce
Nicole scherzinger: beyonce
Trey songz: beyonce
Keri hilson: beyonce
Miranda lambert: beyonce
Fantasia: beyonce
Jazmine Sullivan: beyonce
Gwyenth Paltrow: beyonce
Ciara: both of them
Kristina DeBarge: Britney
Kesha: britney
Little boots: Britney
Pixie Lott: Britney”
“Ok let's see who are today's artists inspired by:
Lady gaga: both of them
Katy perry: both of them
Rihanna: both of them
Adele: beyonce
Nicki minaj: both of them
Selena Gomez: Britney
Demi Lovato: Britney
Miley Cyrus: both of them
Jojo: Beyonce
Leona Lewis: beyonce
Alexandra Burke: beyonce
Jessie j: beyonce
Nicole scherzinger: beyonce
Trey songz: beyonce
Keri hilson: beyonce
Miranda lambert: beyonce
Fantasia: beyonce
Jazmine Sullivan: beyonce
Gwyenth Paltrow: beyonce
Ciara: both of them
Kristina DeBarge: Britney
Kesha: britney
Little boots: Britney
Pixie Lott: Britney”
Looks like beyonce is more inspirational!!
Originally Posted by rivercity_rules:
“Beyoncé has the work ethic, vocals, performance and attitude that stand her miles ahead of all her competitors, the woman is near perfect, I love her music, have done since DC days, a definite legend in the making (if not already).
BUT
If I was asked to choose, I'd favour Britney. The X Factor Simon Cowell and co are looking for, is best described simply as "Britney." Whatever it actually is, she has it in spades. She became almost an instant icon/legend, for a couple of years, she was possibly at her most notorious, without dropping a single record, people are drawn to her. In comparison to Beyoncé her vocals aren't up to scratch, nor is her attitude or performance anymore, but with Britney, she somehow manages to pull it off. She got a genuine standing ovation at the MTV awards a couple of years ago, just for being there and being alive basically.
She's been through a lot, she's shown the harsh reality of showbusiness but also that it's not all bad, there is always a chance for a comeback.
I think in decades to come, when people think back over the past 10 years or so, Britney will be the one that's remembered first, whilst Beyoncé is a bit of an after thought. Not to take anything away from her, as I said I love her, I've seen them both "Live" ("" for Britney) but I see the comparison like MJ and Prince, both big stars around the same time, MJ is the one that is remembered as iconic instantly, but given a bit of thought you remember just how good Prince was as well.”
“Beyoncé has the work ethic, vocals, performance and attitude that stand her miles ahead of all her competitors, the woman is near perfect, I love her music, have done since DC days, a definite legend in the making (if not already).
BUT
If I was asked to choose, I'd favour Britney. The X Factor Simon Cowell and co are looking for, is best described simply as "Britney." Whatever it actually is, she has it in spades. She became almost an instant icon/legend, for a couple of years, she was possibly at her most notorious, without dropping a single record, people are drawn to her. In comparison to Beyoncé her vocals aren't up to scratch, nor is her attitude or performance anymore, but with Britney, she somehow manages to pull it off. She got a genuine standing ovation at the MTV awards a couple of years ago, just for being there and being alive basically.
She's been through a lot, she's shown the harsh reality of showbusiness but also that it's not all bad, there is always a chance for a comeback.
I think in decades to come, when people think back over the past 10 years or so, Britney will be the one that's remembered first, whilst Beyoncé is a bit of an after thought. Not to take anything away from her, as I said I love her, I've seen them both "Live" ("" for Britney) but I see the comparison like MJ and Prince, both big stars around the same time, MJ is the one that is remembered as iconic instantly, but given a bit of thought you remember just how good Prince was as well.”
Well I wouldn't say that rivalry between bey vs Brit but I'd like to say this:
Beyonce vs Rihanna
Britney vs Christina aguilera
To make it more realistic for rivalry wise
Originally Posted by MikePJB:
“She probably put more effort in that than what Britney does in a whole show. Plus she was clearly having a bit of fun. We see how well she dances in other performances.
People can't come at Beyoncé's performance skills and not say nothing about Britney.
And I know you didn't say it, but Beyoncé doesn't scream. I'd rather hear 'screaming' then hear someone mime a full show (not here for singing one song live or whatever)..
It seems some people praise Britney because she's comeback from her breakdown, which is great and her fans should be proud about that, but I also find it admirable that Beyoncé hasn't had a breakdown, has her head screwed on tight and has been able to handle the pressure of fame throughout her whole life.”
“She probably put more effort in that than what Britney does in a whole show
. Plus she was clearly having a bit of fun. We see how well she dances in other performances.People can't come at Beyoncé's performance skills and not say nothing about Britney.
And I know you didn't say it, but Beyoncé doesn't scream. I'd rather hear 'screaming' then hear someone mime a full show (not here for singing one song live or whatever
)..It seems some people praise Britney because she's comeback from her breakdown, which is great and her fans should be proud about that, but I also find it admirable that Beyoncé hasn't had a breakdown, has her head screwed on tight and has been able to handle the pressure of fame throughout her whole life.”
In all seriousness, you cannot compare the media attention Britney has received over the years to Beyonce at all. Every single move Britney made she was attacked for and it got riduculously out of hand so that it led to her breakdown. Few people wouldn't go in to a severe breakdown following the unneccessaray hate Britney got, but fewer would pull through and become a stronger person because of it.
Originally Posted by CSweeet7:
“In all seriousness, you cannot compare the media attention Britney has received over the years to Beyonce at all. Every single move Britney made she was attacked for and it got riduculously out of hand so that it led to her breakdown. Few people wouldn't go in to a severe breakdown following the unneccessaray hate Britney got, but fewer would pull through and become a stronger person because of it.”
“In all seriousness, you cannot compare the media attention Britney has received over the years to Beyonce at all. Every single move Britney made she was attacked for and it got riduculously out of hand so that it led to her breakdown. Few people wouldn't go in to a severe breakdown following the unneccessaray hate Britney got, but fewer would pull through and become a stronger person because of it.”
^^ THIS!
I mean how many people had THAT much overnight attention since Baby One More Time was released
Pre-BOMT, Britney who? Post-BOMT...i wanna be Britney! You know.Beyonce and so so so many of todays pop stars havent achieved that level of fame and superstardom Britney achieved in one full swoop in 1999 and to this day!
Its fair enough saying Beyonce is more vocally talented and a more positive role model.
But at the end of the day Britney isnt about "powerhouse vocals" she is about the hysteria...i remember a fan saying months ago that they would pay to see Britney sit and eat a sandwich because it was Britney...Beyonce couldnt do that lol!
I feel that despite the media attention of her comeback...her most recent material Blackout onwards...is very overlooked and underrated! DS recent compilation of Song Of The Year shows that Till The WOrld Ends was as much a powerful stomper of an anthem as anything! But lower chart positions etc is disappointing really...not that it is "shit, generic, sub-par" but because it is very overlooked because Britney is capable of being THAT good. It is a sad irony really.
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“
I feel that despite the media attention of her comeback...her most recent material Blackout onwards...is very overlooked and underrated! DS recent compilation of Song Of The Year shows that Till The WOrld Ends was as much a powerful stomper of an anthem as anything! But lower chart positions etc is disappointing really...not that it is "shit, generic, sub-par" but because it is very overlooked because Britney is capable of being THAT good. It is a sad irony really.”
“
I feel that despite the media attention of her comeback...her most recent material Blackout onwards...is very overlooked and underrated! DS recent compilation of Song Of The Year shows that Till The WOrld Ends was as much a powerful stomper of an anthem as anything! But lower chart positions etc is disappointing really...not that it is "shit, generic, sub-par" but because it is very overlooked because Britney is capable of being THAT good. It is a sad irony really.”
I think the fact that I've never heard of it pretty much says it all - sadly.
I don't think the miming helped her.
Originally Posted by ScotchMisst:
“I think the fact that I've never heard of it pretty much says it all - sadly.
I don't think the miming helped her.”
“I think the fact that I've never heard of it pretty much says it all - sadly.
I don't think the miming helped her.”
Thats the sad thing really....you should though...youd be STOKED
And Britney has always Mimed a load of shows! But it has never mattered....thats the point lol
Originally Posted by CSweeet7:
“In all seriousness, you cannot compare the media attention Britney has received over the years to Beyonce at all. Every single move Britney made she was attacked for and it got riduculously out of hand so that it led to her breakdown. Few people wouldn't go in to a severe breakdown following the unneccessaray hate Britney got, but fewer would pull through and become a stronger person because of it.”
“In all seriousness, you cannot compare the media attention Britney has received over the years to Beyonce at all. Every single move Britney made she was attacked for and it got riduculously out of hand so that it led to her breakdown. Few people wouldn't go in to a severe breakdown following the unneccessaray hate Britney got, but fewer would pull through and become a stronger person because of it.”
Britney brought alot of that stuff on herself by allowing the media into her private life, and she paid for it in the end. See how different her life has been the last few years, you rarely see candids or anything. I'm glad things have turned around for her
Originally Posted by dirrrty:
“Britney brought alot of that stuff on herself by allowing the media into her private life, and she paid for it in the end. See how different her life has been the last few years, you rarely see candids or anything. I'm glad things have turned around for her”
“Britney brought alot of that stuff on herself by allowing the media into her private life, and she paid for it in the end. See how different her life has been the last few years, you rarely see candids or anything. I'm glad things have turned around for her”
Ah, but Britney thought that by giving the media parts of her personal life (such as that Chaotic show) they would be satisfied and would hence leave her alone, but it backfired. She did bring it upon herself, but it was unintentional. Her personality got her in trouble in the end.
Originally Posted by TheChicagoBaron:
“Ah, but Britney thought that by giving the media parts of her personal life (such as that Chaotic show) they would be satisfied and would hence leave her alone, but it backfired. She did bring it upon herself, but it was unintentional. Her personality got her in trouble in the end.”
“Ah, but Britney thought that by giving the media parts of her personal life (such as that Chaotic show) they would be satisfied and would hence leave her alone, but it backfired. She did bring it upon herself, but it was unintentional. Her personality got her in trouble in the end.”
At times maybe. If she had moved out of LA, i'm sure things would've been alot different for her.
Originally Posted by dirrrty:
“At times maybe. If she had moved out of LA, i'm sure things would've been alot different for her.”
“At times maybe. If she had moved out of LA, i'm sure things would've been alot different for her.”
I don't get the ''At times maybe''. I think anyone would have to be pretty twisted to want that level of attention Britney got. In my opinion, she let them in almost as a reverse psychology, but it didn't work. Alright, I don't think Brit-Brit sat down and planned it all out á la Madonna, but I think it was an intention which didn't work out in the end.
As a big fan of both, I would say Britney has the edge in terms of music and putting on a show (well at her peak anyway, not so much any more).
They both offer different things though as artists. They are in my opinion the biggest new stars of the 2000s and are on their way to becoming true musical icons, if not already there.
They both offer different things though as artists. They are in my opinion the biggest new stars of the 2000s and are on their way to becoming true musical icons, if not already there.
I hate this "Britney brought it upon herself" idea. Forget the fact the father of her children lived in LA making it completely impractical for her to move out of the state, but why the hell SHOULD she have left? She lived there, I don't think it's fair to suggest the onus was on Britney to leave her home if she didn't like the over the top intrusion, rather than to suggest the onus is really on the disgusting low lifes who made a living from completely exploiting her fragile state and basic human rights. Have you seen the crowds that used to amass? I think standing on one side of the street is on thing, but to actively affect what a person can and cannot do with their lives is disgusting. I don't buy into this idea that celebrities "can't have it all" because I think it is a bitter one on which people don't like to think that someone else can have it all while they can't.
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